Thank goodness I don't have to make a public apology every time I make a mistake at work. I think you know how hard of a job being an official is. This was a missed call. It was also missed by every Rutgers coach and every Rutgers player.
Big Ten acknowledges mistakes in controversial finish to Rutgers’ loss to Ohio State
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Oh the refs got it wrong. But if you think it was due to a conspiracy, then you are the black-letter definition of a conspiracy theorist.
LEt's round up a bunch of 30 year olds and replay the last few seconds of the RU-SHU game while we are at it. Time to play another OT. Let's start it at 615PM tomorrow.
Going to guess we won't see any of those 3 refs at any of the next 11 home games.
You will see a heavy dose of Kelly Pfeiffer and Courtney Green (no E at the end)
Missed by every RU player and coach lol...1) the illegal play was right in front of OSU bench, 2) RU coaches are coaching R players on the floor and 3) RU players are on the court playing. It's the refs job to make the right calls, sure some always get missed, but the baseline ref near the OSU basket had a clear as day view of the last shot play developing...no excuse for "missing" that one.
you aren’t a public figure . They should have to answer for it. There are three of them there to be able to see it and to not see it in the most critical spot in the game is egregious. They should have to explain themselves . Cliff also saw it as evident by him running over to that exact area
It was also missed by everyone watching the game. There are plenty of excuses why the call was missed.
it’s the refs job not to miss them. You’re missing the point. It’s not a judgment call they chose to not call. Three refs blatantly missed it .
I do not, but screwing up 2-3 calls on one play isn’t so great
Lol who gets paid to officiate the game? The fans now too? lmao. What excuse does that back line ref with a clear line view of the developing play have?
75 percent or more. the play is right on front of you. It’s not like this happened way off the ball.
How many times have you seen a player coming from slightly out of bounds to in bounds being the 1st to catch and then being called for the infraction?
What I do know is I've never seen or heard of a blown call like this that was clear as day, or should have been, to at least the back line ref, on a game-ending shot.
The entire final play action was on that small sideline area between 4 players...the 3 refs should have been locked-in on that space like laser beams.
Because it never happens. You can be an official with a 30 year career and officiate 1,000 games and it won't happen. Obviously officials should be looking for it, but they don't because what they do see are fouls on the shooter. 99 out of 100 if there is a call that matters and impacts the game it is that and that is their focus.
So they miss a screen off the ball that was illegally set that freed up a potential shooter.
So they miss a Ohio State player calling a time out they didn't have?
Disagree---as I said above, the final play action was along that small sideline area between 4 players...the dribbler was bottled-up and there was only one other osu player within 3 feet. I'm not sure what you're arguing about quite frankly.
less than 50%. All you are looking at is the ball and making sure you don't miss the important call that will happen between the guy with the ball and the defender.
Obviously all opinion. It definitely isn't 99.9% or even 90%
There are 10 players on the court (actually 9). I have never in my years watching basketball at all levels see a game being impacted by action off the court.
with 1 second on the clock the only plays were 1) a desperation shot by Thorton or 2) a flip pass to the closest osu player. Nobody else was near the play.
back line ref blew the call. Trailing ref was watching ball handler ( probably blew out of founds though.). What else would the back like ref be watching?
The man out of bounds was directly in the play right near the ball. If it was on the other side of the court and he threw a cross court pass I could buy it. The player was right there where everyone was looking. It was in direct line of sight
You seem to be letting fans not knowing the details of the rule impact your expections of what the refs should know which makes zero sense
It doesn't get more blatant than this unless Ton Artest came back in from the stands to take a shot
There is no excuse for this call to be missed. None. These are professional refs. This is their job. They should be among the best of the best in their field to be reffing at the B1G P5 level
I want to see things officiated fair.
I hope to see no controversial calls tomorrow. They never happen when the game is already won.
that is the precise argument why the play was missed. Officials were looking only at the area of the court that was perceived to be most important. Why would an official be looking at what was going on off the court?
That ref had to look through that player to see the play. He was literally looking directly in that direction. You can't pretend he somehow didn't see it. He just completely inexcusably blew the call. Trying to bend over backwards making excuses as to why he missed it is nonsense
It was off the court RIGHT NEXT TO THE PLAY
Wtf r you talking about?!?! You're acting like it was away from the ball on the other side of the court. It was literally right there right in the play
Are these officials really getting paid where this is their only lifetime profession?
I never said that. If you want to blame this on their other job that's a completely different discussion. The one ref did like 29 games in 33 days or something along those lines. I doubt he's simultaneously working another job at the same time. If he is that's concerning. He was doing too many games with all that travel as it is. If blame his bball schedule and mental fatigue as a potential reason for the blown call
Acting like the ref shouldn't have seen it when it happened right in front of his face is a laughable excuse though
Everyone, including the players understand that missed calls happen and are taught to play on until the whistle blows.
The issue here is that the OSU player only got an open look because our defender recognized the guy he was defending could not longer be a threat to shoot and backed off. Unlike your examples, you can’t say that Mag should’ve waited for a whistle and continued to defend his man who was out of bounds just in case the refs missed it and allowed the pass to an ineligible guy. If you do - that wouldn’t be different from my other extreme example of a 6th player popping off the bench without checking in and taking the game winning shot - refs don’t realize the guy wasn’t in the game until after the buzzer sounds. Should Mag be looking out for an illegal 6th guy popping in just in case the refs miss that?
Agree that there's no need for an apology, and that refs make mistakes.
I don't agree that it was missed by every RU coach and player. Cliff and Pike immediately went to the ref and pointed to the sideline as soon as the buzzer sounded.
sorry we just disagree. The official is looking at the ball and not processing that a player could be out of bounds. Should they yes, but it is something that never happens.
I officiated a ton of games for 4 years at Rutgers. It looks easy, but it isn't. They messed up.
I'd be 10 times more upset as a fan if the player missed the shot and a foul that didn't occur was called.
We lost because of a play off the ball was missed and an obscure rule that no one knew about wasnt called.
After the loss I watched a show on Amazon Prime with Mrs. GRF and not until the show was over did I find out that because of a rule I didn;t know about was missed we were denied a victory. I would be more upset if the player wasnt defended better because a RU player didn't see the 5th OSU guy because he was off the court
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