That’s fine. Again, I think a young offensive minded coach would be able to find a way to claw out wins with a decimated defense.
Fire Schiano!!!
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That’s fine. Again, I think a young offensive minded coach would be able to find a way to claw out wins with a decimated defense.
Every team does not deal with what we did on the defensive side vs UCLA. That was atypical. I think there were like 2 starters not OUT or on the questionable list. That’s just nuts. I would’ve liked to see our second team come in more prepared of course, but it is not true that every team faces that situation. It was atypically bad luck the timing.
It’s also a ridiculous notion to suggest those coaches who have won national championships, gotten their FBS teams into the top 25 and have had extremely successful seasons…would be worse than Greg.
The discussion is moot, and would still be moot if we were 4-6 rather than 6-4. Pat Hobbs saw to that when he extended Schiano's contract.
It’s very silly we’re discussing this after two straight wins,
Again, very happy with how these last two weeks have gone.
Again, very happy with how these last two weeks have gone.
You people.. is that better? It is just a way of replying to you and all the people who think and feel like you do and express themselves similarly on this board. Should PSAL_Hoops have to respond in this same fashion to every post of every one of "you people" because you are all individuals? I think not.
You people who jump all over Schiano at the first opportunity.
You people who keep pretending there is a magic man out there for us who will finally make Rutgers Football worthy of your attention. A magic man who will allow you to brag how you've been following them for so long, through thick and thin.. blah blah blah.
Tell you what.. when "you people" raise enough money to buy out Schiano, buy a name-brand coach and staff, fund NIL like the teams you seek to defeat regularly... then we can reset things like hopes and expectations.
Just enjoy the win you troll.
What national champ coach were we getting to come to Rutgers? Say what? Getting into the Top 25 means nothing in terms of Illinois vs RU. They got there because they beat an overrated Kansas. Who cares? I guess we’ll see how much better than us Illinois is next week. If we beat them, then we have the same record. The way I see it - they got to play Purdue. We didn’t. Thats the difference. And they beat Purdue in OT. Perhaps if we got Purdue instead of UCLA we would’ve pulled through even with our injuries.
The injuries are a logical reason, not an excuse. Another reason is that we are non-competitive with NIL. You can refuse to consider those reasons. But that doesn’t make them evaporate.
If we had not had injuries, we might well be undefeated right now. We obviously improved over the course of the season seeing as how we just played our best game. And that’s despite having 8 season-ending injuries to starters. That’s evidence of good coaching.
I think I’ve said 3 or 4 times already that I’ve enjoyed this win and am very happy with the last 2 weeks.
Someone told me to apologize for my opinion on Schiano, and I said I’m not going to..my opinion hasn’t changed.
Doesn’t mean im not happy. It’s been a great 2 weeks.
Then maybe hold your vitriol next time after a rough patch in the season. Let the season play out. You said an offensive minded coach would scratch out more wins. You do realize Rutgers . 31, 26 and 32 points in 3 of the last 4 games is apparently not good enough for you. Like I said, people like you will always be eyeing a shinier new or better toy no matter what happens.
Yes it does. Especially for programs like Illinois, and Rutgers. Getting into the top 25 is huge,
Don’t argue with him he’s a low football IQ guy and negatoid that tries to ruin a good win.
I don’t think your last sentence is a bad thing, that’s how most fsnbases should think.
No, not every team loses 8 guys for the season and many more for several games. It's a significant statistical outlier and had an impact on the team. The ridiculous thing is you posting this thread after we had our best year in almost 10 years, last year, due to Schiano rebuilding this team from the Ash-es, as we were likely the worst FCS team in the country when he took over - and when our record was still a respectable 4-4 with 4 games left. Fortunately, Greg and the staff have worked wonders with a hobbled team to to get these last two huge wins and it's quite possible we win 7 or even 8 this year. I'd like to think you've learned a lesson, but I doubt it. I'm sure you'll be calling for Greg's head any time the team loses a couple of games.
lol. Only person trying to ruin the the good won is the person that reignited this thread, lol,
Again, for the 5th time, I’m very happy with today lol.
Its huge for the recognition. It happened for Illinois based on timing and luck. We would’ve probably been ranked too if VTech hung on and beat Miami. The suggestion that because they got ranked from beating Kansas that means Illinois’ coach would be better than Greg at RU makes no sense at all.
Probably will..lol. until Greg proves he can beat a ranked team..or get us ranked…I think we’d be better off with another coach.
You and buttgers should get a room together and bitch to each other after RU wins .
I don’t think so. Thinking that way about anything, let alone stuff outside one’s control, let alone something as trivial as sports, is a sure prescription for continual unhappiness. Even for clinical depression.
The irony of bumping this thread and all the defenses of HC Schiano seem to be "stop complaining about being a average Big Ten team. That's our ceiling just like everyone else. We have an average Big Ten coach and staff and should be content. We're never playing for championships."
You're basically removing the "Schiano is different" aura that people normally attribute to him and his coaching ability.
"At least we aren't terrible" isn't very encouraging as the defining description of a staff and program.
I would imagine HC Schiano himself would vehemently disagree and say that 8-9-10 win seasons could and should be our annual goal (especially without the top Big Ten teams on schedule).
Obviously he'd never say that though.
You're basically removing the "Schiano is different" aura that people normally attribute to him and his coaching ability.
"At least we aren't terrible" isn't very encouraging as the defining description of a staff and program.
I would imagine HC Schiano himself would vehemently disagree and say that 8-9-10 win seasons could and should be our annual goal (especially without the top Big Ten teams on schedule).
Obviously he'd never say that though.
Even when reached 8-9 wins in the past, some crazy fans wanted him fired. This is how good teams are destroyed for long period of time. I remember Michigan fans and Syracuse fans wanted their coaches fired when they only won 9 games.
I believe it was only 1-2 years ago that we were hoping for 4-5 wins.
We are not, in my estimation, getting to 10 win seasons with any regularity unless we can offer vastly more NIL money. Doesn’t matter who the coach is in that respect. Had we remained healthy with only the minor injuries to players that all teams experience every year, we might well have 10 wins this season.
Yes, that calls for speculation. But no more so than people saying GS can’t coach well enough to win 10 games now and then, when the stars align.
We have everything in place to succeed consistently at RU right now except for ……NIL. People can poo poo it all they want but that is reality and that is what we don’t have compared to the others.
I’m not sure about that. We might need a more creative OC.
The only way to know is to have the NIL funding to compete with the other top B1G schools for recruits and transfers, and to prevent our best players being poached. Only then could we know if our current coaching staff could recruit well enough, and coach well enough, to regularly win games against ranked opponents and compete for B1G championships.
Without the NIL, we won’t succeed except when the stars align in terms of older team age, favorable schedule, and staying healthy. And I think that’s true for all coaches we could get here, not just GS.
With enough NIL, and big assistant salaries, any experienced, winning coach could win lots of games here, including GS.
I don’t understand how you can supposedly be a Rutgers fan and not understand that “Schiano is different” even if his ceiling is average Big Ten team (not that I believe that), given that no other coach at Rutgers has built an average Big East team let alone an average Big Ten one.
We can argue about his faults, but there is no argument that he absolutely IS a difference maker for Rutgers until someone else comes along and has any success.
No you're trying to be negative. That's all you do!
Don't think anybody said what you said they said. Nobody said "average." You said that.
The reality (not irony) is that Rutgers is not and will never be an Ohio State or maybe Oregon or perhaps even a Penn State. Certain on Ohio State, and perhaps Oregon and Penn State have some wiggle room. But Rutgers can be a Wisconsin, an Iowa, a Michigan State or even a Nebraska. You will note that Michigan is left out of this list. Consider Michigan's last 20 years. It took Jim Harbaugh 5 years to get Michigan to the CFP.
The other reality is Rutgers does not have the resources that teams like Oregon, Penn State and Ohio State have. Years of winning. Storied programs. Deep pocket donors like Phil Knight. 100,000 plus (check Oregon) stadium. Rutgers may never have these resources.
The other reality is New Jersey does not have rabid college football fans that root for their home team like Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon and Penn State have. New Jersey is a state full of transients, transplants and some people who were born and raised here and bleed scarlet. Those other states identify with their state university. And they also don't have a major state newspaper looking to tear down their State U as every turn.
Rutgers is what it is. For most of its history, the butt of college football jokes, an under resourced program that caught lightning in a bottle with Schiano 1.0, only to find itself homeless after the Big East dissolved, and relegated to being nearly homeless like UConn and floating on a crap island called to AAC, only to get a huge lifeline and life raft from the B1G. Who do Rutgers fans owe that to? Two people, and one of them is derided and ridiculed each time the team slips up and goes on a losing streak.
Sure, Rutgers could fire Schiano and take their chances on a flash in the pan hire and maybe get a Curt Cignetti. Maybe, however, they will get a Lance Leipold (not bad, but so far not too great -let's not get too giddy about last night), or worse yet, Rutgers could get a Mel Tucker. Or a Chris Ash or a Kyle Flood. We saw what they did.
The University and the program has a lot to overcome to get to the peak of college football. Years of losing, a fickle State population mostly disinterested in college football, lack of big pocket donors, being part of the one of the two top conferences. Greg Schiano is like Sisyphus. There is a lot working against him. Greg himself said he came here to win championships. If it took Jim Harbaugh 5 years to get Michigan to the CFP, why should Rutgers fans expect it to happen sooner under any coach they hire, and to have SUSTAINED (not one year wonder) success?
| Rk | Year | Conf | W | L | T | Pct | W | L | T | Pct | SRS | SOS | AP Pre | AP High | AP Post | CFP High | CFP Final | Coach(es) | Bowl | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 2024 | Big Ten | 5 | 5 | 0 | .500 | 3 | 4 | 0 | .429 | 6.03 | 8.03 | 9 | 9 | Sherrone Moore (5-5) | |||||
| 2 | 2023 | Big Ten | 15 | 0 | 0 | 1.000 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 1.000 | 25.01 | 5.61 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | Jim Harbaugh (15-0) | Rose Bowl (W), College Football Playoff National Championship (W) | National Championships: AP, CFP |
| 3 | 2022 | Big Ten | 13 | 1 | 0 | .929 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 1.000 | 20.59 | 2.73 | 8 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 2 | Jim Harbaugh (13-1) | Fiesta Bowl (L) | |
| 4 | 2021 | Big Ten | 12 | 2 | 0 | .857 | 8 | 1 | 0 | .889 | 19.80 | 6.23 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 2 | Jim Harbaugh (12-2) | Orange Bowl (L) | ||
| 5 | 2020 | Big Ten | 2 | 4 | 0 | .333 | 2 | 4 | 0 | .333 | -1.25 | 3.25 | 16 | 13 | Jim Harbaugh (2-4) | |||||
| 6 | 2019 | Big Ten | 9 | 4 | 0 | .692 | 6 | 3 | 0 | .667 | 15.50 | 7.88 | 7 | 7 | 18 | 13 | 14 | Jim Harbaugh (9-4) | Citrus Bowl (L) | |
| 7 | 2018 | Big Ten | 10 | 3 | 0 | .769 | 8 | 1 | 0 | .889 | 16.47 | 5.47 | 14 | 4 | 14 | 4 | 7 | Jim Harbaugh (10-3) | Peach Bowl (L) | |
| 8 | 2017 | Big Ten | 8 | 5 | 0 | .615 | 5 | 4 | 0 | .556 | 13.44 | 6.98 | 11 | 7 | 24 | Jim Harbaugh (8-5) | Outback Bowl (L) | |||
| 9 | 2016 | Big Ten | 10 | 3 | 0 | .769 | 7 | 2 | 0 | .778 | 17.56 | 4.79 | 7 | 2 | 10 | 3 | 6 | Jim Harbaugh (10-3) | Orange Bowl (L) | |
| 10 | 2015 | Big Ten | 10 | 3 | 0 | .769 | 6 | 2 | 0 | .750 | 16.34 | 4.57 | 12 | 12 | 10 | 14 | Jim Harbaugh (10-3) | Citrus Bowl (W) | ||
| 11 | 2014 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 1.82 | 3.65 | Brady Hoke (5-7) | |||||||
| 12 | 2013 | Big Ten | 7 | 6 | 0 | .538 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 5.53 | 3.30 | 17 | 11 | Brady Hoke (7-6) | Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl (L) | ||||
| 13 | 2012 | Big Ten | 8 | 5 | 0 | .615 | 6 | 2 | 0 | .750 | 10.01 | 3.85 | 8 | 8 | 24 | Brady Hoke (8-5) | Outback Bowl (L) | |||
| 14 | 2011 | Big Ten | 11 | 2 | 0 | .846 | 6 | 2 | 0 | .750 | 16.27 | 2.96 | 11 | 12 | Brady Hoke (11-2) | Sugar Bowl (W) | ||||
| 15 | 2010 | Big Ten | 7 | 6 | 0 | .538 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 1.41 | 3.10 | 18 | Rich Rodriguez (7-6) | Gator Bowl (L) | |||||
| 16 | 2009 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -1.51 | -0.26 | 22 | Rich Rodriguez (5-7) | ||||||
| 17 | 2008 | Big Ten | 3 | 9 | 0 | .250 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | -4.66 | 3.00 | Rich Rodriguez (3-9) | |||||||
| 18 | 2007 | Big Ten | 9 | 4 | 0 | .692 | 6 | 2 | 0 | .750 | 7.91 | 2.68 | 5 | 5 | 18 | Lloyd Carr (9-4) | Capital One Bowl (W) | |||
| 19 | 2006 | Big Ten | 11 | 2 | 0 | .846 | 7 | 1 | 0 | .875 | 16.66 | 4.35 | 14 | 2 | 8 | Lloyd Carr (11-2) | Rose Bowl (L) | |||
| 20 | 2005 | Big Ten | 7 | 5 | 0 | .583 | 5 | 3 | 0 | .625 | 14.86 | 9.36 | 4 | 3 | Lloyd Carr (7-5) | A |
That coach 4-6 on the season. And 21-27 over 4 years. If that was Rutgers coach, this board would be in a full meltdown. Stop with the one hit wonders already.
Mike Houston was another hero of the stupid on this board. Where is he now?
It’s great to see this team/ program win games in November.
Despite all the injuries we are playing our best ball. Young players are stepping up.
Just getting Strong and Powell back makes a huge difference.
That four game stretch was tough, but to see the come back is really encouraging!
So my point? Who knows how good a Schiano coached program can be this is a brutal conference but I’m riding the Schiano wave. I’m all in!
The fire Schiano guys who come out of the woodwork when we lose a couple games should really root for an NFL team.
In the NFL, they change coaches like people change underwear.
Your opinion means shit because you have absolutely no comprehension regarding RU's place in college football and the relative success we have had under GS. One of those guys who whines all game long like an old woman. Eventually you will be right when GS retires from his strong run at RU. But you will be waiting many years for that.
Your comps are a rushed OL coach and a lifetime defensive coach who never had any experience within 50 yards of managing an offense.
The "only Schiano" argument is incredibly thin.
Is Schiano better than Flood and Ash? Sure. But that doesn't mean he's the only coach who could have ever turned Rutgers around.
It's literally impossible to know that one way or another.
young players are finally putting together some real game experience. this was an experienced group of starters that we relied on . the 2 and 3 deep were only getting so much playing time. practice time is good but it’s not live game experience. yesterday we were down to our 4th string TE and he did well ! so we are developing guys don’t kid yourself.
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