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I want to hear carlin and Lloyd say something negative about this program. anything - just so we know they're paying attention
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Here is a positive. Our scrubs/walkon's only got dunked on once since they came in and show more balls than the starters and normal rotation players.
They can't shoot for shit either but at least the move the ball and look like they know what they are doing.
Also, Okoro shot a brick on a layup that didn't hit rim, but at least it wasn't an airball like Mack had. That's a positive. I think.
Well, geez, of course we look bad. After all, Iowa is undefeated and ranked #1 and has all those 1-and-dones who'll be first round picks next year.
It isn't sad. It is expected. When something is ignored and not fed, it festers and dies. That is Rutgers basketball. For whatever reasons, the program has been ignored. Between the state, administration, alumni, lots of root causes as to why this team looks like a something you'd see in division 2.
Saying it for the 3rd time. I would suspend the program until it can be supported in a competitive way.
How the hell can a big ten school suspend a basketball program, Cali?
Your other points are valid but cmon
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Your other points are valid but cmon
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They don't. It's stupid. We will just keep getting pounded until the season ends.
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We're spending a mill a year on a head coach. That would mean something at a lot of places ... without practice facilities and with a shared gym. Coaches making a lot less can still recruit serviceable talent, develop skills and install a system. Have you seen any of that from this staff?
No, a temp AD hired a guy for PR and let him hire a useless NBA lifer as his top assistant. Rutgers is getting no more and mo less than what it deserved. Two more years. Two more years. There can't possibly be a lame duck 5th year.
No, a temp AD hired a guy for PR and let him hire a useless NBA lifer as his top assistant. Rutgers is getting no more and mo less than what it deserved. Two more years. Two more years. There can't possibly be a lame duck 5th year.
How can they? Just do it. It beats the alternative of getting absolutely destroyed every night, and I would bet my life savings that it won't stop for literally years. Many years. This program got dropped in the middle of the ocean and can't swim.
The worst part is it is going to get worse. A lot worse. I don't believe this is debateable.
The B1G isn't giving Rutgers full shares for 5 years. I get why. The administration can't borrow against future earnings, per Julie. Given these absolute facts, we know this means one thing. Losses, with no chance to even be competitive. So what is their to play for? The B1G doesn't need Rutgers to have a basketball team. Our out is the truth. We simply can't compete and believe it is futile to keep fielding a team under the current circumstances. The B1G has our market due to football and BTN is already on the cable boxes. At this point, I would seriously look into as an option.
Our admin is a disgrace. But part of the problem here is with all the weaknesses our school has regarding basketball, we hired a coach the possess none of the qualities to turn things around in such a tough environment.
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Unfortunately the Mike Rice scandal happened, and as a result even Danny Hurley didn't want this mess. Who else were we looking at better than Eddie Jordan? No one.
Eddie has been set up to fail. Not saying it would work out with better support from up above, but you can't do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. That's Rutgers and basketball.
Hire. Fire. Hire. Fire.
Well then waiting five more years to change the leader will do nothing then delay what is pretty obvious right now.
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Suspending a Big Ten program is simply not something you can do. Why even say something like that? It's not going to happen and if it did we would be ejected from the B1G.
Do you know the ramifications of suspending a program? It's a self-inflicted death penalty and the program would be GUARANTEED to never recover. You think getting a facility now is hard? How about after the school has forgotten about basketball for 5 years? Stop with the crazy talk.
This is the dregs and it sucks, but programs get better, they get lucky. You give your current coach a chance and if it doesn't work you hire a different coach. That's how it works. You don't slash your own program with the death penalty. Northwestern hasn't made the tournament since 1968-9. Are they suspending the program? Maybe they've had a better season than us this year, but they're still bottom-tier.
And Kadeem Jack seems to be as much of a quitter as Jerome Seagears.
Do you know the ramifications of suspending a program? It's a self-inflicted death penalty and the program would be GUARANTEED to never recover. You think getting a facility now is hard? How about after the school has forgotten about basketball for 5 years? Stop with the crazy talk.
This is the dregs and it sucks, but programs get better, they get lucky. You give your current coach a chance and if it doesn't work you hire a different coach. That's how it works. You don't slash your own program with the death penalty. Northwestern hasn't made the tournament since 1968-9. Are they suspending the program? Maybe they've had a better season than us this year, but they're still bottom-tier.
And Kadeem Jack seems to be as much of a quitter as Jerome Seagears.
It takes at least three years to turn a program around. You can have two bad seasons and then year 3 is important.
Do you think the best coaching candidates want to hear what Julie and Sarah told the Court Club members on Feb 16?
It's impossible to know how another coach would do given the circumstances of 2013.
Remember Eddie had to retain Macon and Cox to keep Seagears, Mack, Jack and Kone.
What coach would do that?
And we had no AD in place, either. It was a lose-lose situation.
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I'm not saying that he should go now. I'm just against the concept of seven years. Thing have to get better at some point. I just don't see anything close to improvement coming. And God help us if Corey Sanders sits next year.
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The B1G wouldn't kick Rutgers out if it suspended the program. That is upsurd to suggest. There is far too much riding ($$) on having Rutgers in the conference, and it isn't because of basketball.
The ramifications of suspending a program are better than the ramifications of getting your ass kicked every night for years. That stink wouldn't wash away. At least you can sell something when you have the funds to support without having to explain another 10 years of losing. I don't think some understand the dire situation that is Rutgers basketball. Gentlemen, it isn't even in the realm of being close to competitive.
Northwestern has had way worse seasons than this. They have had 0 conference win seasons. They have had 1 win seasons, 2 win seasons, 3 win seasons.
Virginia Tech lost something like 21 of 22 ACC games at one point recently.
The B1G would seriously take action against a program who refuses to fund a basketball program. There's a 100% chance.
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Virginia Tech lost something like 21 of 22 ACC games at one point recently.
The B1G would seriously take action against a program who refuses to fund a basketball program. There's a 100% chance.
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You sound ridiculous. It would violate all of the conference and TV contracts. Not only can we not suspend a TV contract sport, if we tried to do it voluntarily we would probably be hit with an injunction stopping us from doing it.
It's one thing to be bad and have bad seasons, it's another thing to repeatedly quit on the coach/season and get blown out of the gym every other game. And those other programs usually have zero or barely any serviceable players. This team actually has some guys that can do something but they aren't set up to succeed. The offensive sets are horrible, the defense is horrible, the effort is horrible, etc. These are things the coach absolutely controls. One of the coaches most important jobs, if not the most important job, is to have the team jacked up and ready to play. When this team comes out you can tell they're going to lose about 5 minutes into the game. If the team was doing things that looked good but just didn't have the players to execute it would be one thing, but what's happening here is something else altogether. It's a complete zero across the board.
Please show me the contract that dictates Rutgers must field a basketball team. B1G schools have cut other sports in the past with no ramifications. A losing team with no fan base and no chance of winning is really going to be worth throwing away the BTN cable boxes? I think not.
Please stop this nonsense. We have a bad program and the wrong coach. At some point we will start over again.
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Cali, of all the things that can be talked about regarding the program, are you sure you want to spend your time arguing the merits of canceling the basketball team? There has to be bottom feeders of every conference and Rutgers happens to be that bottom feeder for now. You don't see other bad teams in major conferences folding up because they're bad. It's never happened, it will never happen. Please don't waste any more words on the topic.
