guess next week's Miami line

[toby83]

assuming no hiccups either side. they should beat Stanford, game in Orlando.

point of reference - Miami was just a 19 point home favorite vs Penn, a middle of the road Ivy league team (they were up 20+ in second half, ending up winning by 12)

i will go with Miami -14

 

[Arizona Knight]

No hiccups either side I can see a 10-12 point spread but your 14 is more accurate IMO.

 

[RU MAN]

If we go in at 6-0 I think Miami will be favored by -10. And I think based on how we matchup with them this will either be a bigger loss by us or an upset alert.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

A lot of threads on the football board and now here about Spreads......what's the importance of the spread to the average non-betting Rutgers Follower ? Is it just a curiosity thing to see what others think about the team's chances ? Just something to chat about ?

 

[PiscatawayMike]

Miami will be favored by 8.5

 

[KnightTerrors]

Rutgers -10

A lot of threads on the football board and now here about Spreads......what's the importance of the spread to the average non-betting Rutgers Follower ? Is it just a curiosity thing to see what others think about the team's chances ? Just something to chat about ?

Vegas is often right on the money with their predictions. Obviously they can be wrong but more often than not they're very close. It's a good barometer to see how a game will play out. If a team is favored by 10 points or more it's very rare to see them lose outright.

Plus there are a lot of gamblers out their that think they know better than the bookmakers. Which is why the hotels in Vegas are gorgeous!

 

[toby83]

A lot of threads on the football board and now here about Spreads......what's the importance of the spread to the average non-betting Rutgers Follower ? Is it just a curiosity thing to see what others think about the team's chances ? Just something to chat about ?

Yeah,it's just interesting to see what the Vegas math shows.

 

[toby83]

If Rutgers is a 12 pt dog , Miami will be somewhere in -800 / -850 moneyline ,which basically says Vegas is saying Rutgers has a 10% chance of winning the game outright. Like Terrors said, the math is good as it gets (with college kids). Many will say early in season is the best time to bet, without much established.

 

[Mr_Twister]

As of today, Sagarin ratings has it an 18-point game.

 

[chrisman8604]

Like football early season spreads are not good. We were 6 point dogs to DePaul. There's not enough data yet. The formulas can't take into account that Rutgers will probably play a very different game against Miami then against all of their other previous opponents.

 

[Rokodesh]

A lot of threads on the football board and now here about Spreads......what's the importance of the spread to the average non-betting Rutgers Follower ? Is it just a curiosity thing to see what others think about the team's chances ? Just something to chat about ?

public perception

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

-15.5

 

[cubuffsdoug]

Rutgers -10


Vegas is often right on the money with their predictions. Obviously they can be wrong but more often than not they're very close. It's a good barometer to see how a game will play out. If a team is favored by 10 points or more it's very rare to see them lose outright.

Plus there are a lot of gamblers out their that think they know better than the bookmakers. Which is why the hotels in Vegas are gorgeous!

How do they explain the first 4 games for Rutgers this year? You can measure HEART, DESIRE, and IMPROVEMENT.

 

[playorbplayd]

No hiccups from either side and I'll say it opens Miami -16, finishes somewhere around Miami -14

 

[Rutgers Rah]

Miami -12.5

 

[RUfinal4]

Miami -7

 

[Arizona Knight]

Miami -7

I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror for awhile but I would bet a sh!t ton on Miami if that was the line.

Not.... a.... chance.

 

[Good-Knight]

It will be 8 which is a lot.

 

[playorbplayd]

Difference between Miami and our opponents so far is good teams will hit the open shot and beat their defenders one on one more times than not. We've gotten away with some open looks being missed against us early. There's improvement on the defensive side of the ball, but there's still a ton of work left to be done with positioning and discipline.

Best shot in this matchup is to turn it into a bang it out/grind it out type of game. Our effort and physicality is an asset that can cover up positioning mistakes this season. Need to keep that same mentality against the big boys as we've had against our early opponents.

There's still two games to be played before this one, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Enjoy each game, there's good basketball to be watched regardless of our opponent and that shouldn't be overlooked.

 

[Arizona Knight]

Some of you guys sounds like the people on the football board predicting a 10 point spread against Washington all summer.

 

[cubuffsdoug]

Some of you guys sounds like the people on the football board predicting a 10 point spread against Washington all summer.

I don't know about that, but you can see a huge difference in the play of the basketball team this year. Football was a major let down when you consider the returning talent and the hype around Ash. Pikiell promised hard work and not much else.

 

[Mr_Twister]

-15.5

+1. Yes. Agree. As great a coach as Larranaga is, he has a very young and inexperienced team. Two starters return from last year, and they rotate 4 freshmen. Could take time for the freshmen to play defense the way Larranaga expects. Rutgers has a chance here to capitalize on the Miami inexperience.

 

[biazza38]

If Rutgers is a 12 pt dog , Miami will be somewhere in -800 / -850 moneyline ,which basically says Vegas is saying Rutgers has a 10% chance of winning the game outright. Like Terrors said, the math is good as it gets (with college kids). Many will say early in season is the best time to bet, without much established.

Early season is great! But championship week is the best. Those bottom feeders basically quit and the top teams flex their muscle even more. I went something around 11-1 last year.

 

[Arizona Knight]

I don't know about that, but you can see a huge difference in the play of the basketball team this year. Football was a major let down when you consider the returning talent and the hype around Ash. Pikiell promised hard work and not much else.

Miami is 54-32 in the ACC under their current coach. They are probably averaging 23-25 wins a year in the last 5 years again, in the ACC which is a pretty decent conference for hoops. We are feeling pretty good as we should be right now but we are about to take a serious step up in class. To think we should be a single digit dog on the road is a bit optimistic.

 

[cubuffsdoug]

+1. Yes. Agree. As great a coach as Larranaga is, he has a very young and inexperienced team. Two starters return from last year, and they rotate 4 freshmen. Could take time for the freshmen to play defense the way Larranaga expects. Rutgers has a chance here to capitalize on the Miami inexperience.

I was thinking the same thing. I think sometimes we overvalue a team like Miaim based on history (good the last few season), but we don't consider the difference in the roster from those teams. Miami has some talented players who are young. It may take to the middle of the season before you see the real Miami team. Hopefully Rutgers can take advantage of it to help their cause.

 

[cubuffsdoug]

Miami is 54-32 in the ACC under their current coach. They are probably averaging 23-25 wins a year in the last 5 years again, in the ACC which is a pretty decent conference for hoops. We are feeling pretty good as we should be right now but we are about to take a serious step up in class. To think we should be a single digit dog on the road is a bit optimistic.

I wasn't going against you. When I said, "I don't know about that" I was just stating I don't think posters are claiming Rutgers is suddenly on par with Miami. Rutgers is playing like a real college team for once which gives you hope. The reason I like Rutgers chances is the youth movement for Miami which may take some time to gel. Perhaps Rutgers can take advantage of that youth and play physical to throw them off their game.

 

[Arizona Knight]

I wasn't going against you. When I said, "I don't know about that" I was just stating I don't think posters are claiming Rutgers is suddenly on par with Miami. Rutgers is playing like a real college team for once which gives you hope. The reason I like Rutgers chances is the youth movement for Miami which may take some time to gel. Perhaps Rutgers can take advantage of that youth and play physical to throw them off their game.

I get why people are excited. Believe me, I am
too. I love watching this team and I've watched each of the last three games, twice so far as I have them on my dvr. But Miami will be a new breed of cat.

 

[toby83]

+1. Yes. Agree. As great a coach as Larranaga is, he has a very young and inexperienced team. Two starters return from last year, and they rotate 4 freshmen. Could take time for the freshmen to play defense the way Larranaga expects. Rutgers has a chance here to capitalize on the Miami inexperience.

Their freshman Bruce Brown is not like our freshman.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

8 point spread, book it

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

8 point spread, book it

Zero chance! Unless injuries.

That doesn't mean Rutgers won't keep it under 8 or even win. The line will be in the -12 to -17. That u can book

 

[toby83]

Zero chance! Unless injuries.

That doesn't mean Rutgers won't keep it under 8 or even win. The line will be in the -12 to -17. That u can book

I think this is spot on

 

[RUONTHERISE]

Miami 8 point favorites

 

[toby83]

line is out at one of the offshore books who puts out early and it's Miami -16

buddy of mine said he saw -17 but i didn't see that

 

[PiscatawayMike]

line is out at one of the offshore books who puts out early and it's Miami -16

buddy of mine said he saw -17 but i didn't see that

 

[KnightsofChrome]

My God, you guy's are talking about Miami, like they are the Magic led, Lakers! Betting odds are just that odds, as stated, doesn't measure, match ups, heart, passion, and aggressiveness, schemes, etc. This is 80% of the College game. These guys are not even good from the 3 points circle. I think they fall into our wheelhouse.
We have a shot to beat this team. Let's try to be at least optimistic/hopeful about something, here at Rutgers, geeeez!

 

[RUsojo]

We are 4-1 against the spread (personally 3-1). Doesn't matter what the line is vegas hasn't figured Rutgers out yet. Take the points no matter what.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I'd think we are 2-2-1 if there were a line for North Texas and hartford. I thought Niagara was a push.

6-0 is a great start. If we want to be real honest with ourselves we haven't been very good in the last 3 games. Miami type teams drill our 3 opponents at home by 20+ 90% of the time.

 

[patk89]

I'd think we are 2-2-1 if there were a line for North Texas and hartford. I thought Niagara was a push.

6-0 is a great start. If we want to be real honest with ourselves we haven't been very good in the last 3 games. Miami type teams drill our 3 opponents at home by 20+ 90% of the time.

Agree with FIG. We have been pushed by some really weak teams thus far. But we are learning to win. The end of the Hartford game was incredible but we should never have been in that position. Can we raise the level of our play in Miami? I'm real interested but the experts don't seem to think so, even with Miami coming off a couple of losses. I'm hoping we stay in it and then who knows down the stretch.

 

[hinson32]

8 point spread, book it

Don't quit your day job.

 

[hinson32]

My God, you guy's are talking about Miami, like they are the Magic led, Lakers! Betting odds are just that odds, as stated, doesn't measure, match ups, heart, passion, and aggressiveness, schemes, etc. This is 80% of the College game. These guys are not even good from the 3 points circle. I think they fall into our wheelhouse.
We have a shot to beat this team. Let's try to be at least optimistic/hopeful about something, here at Rutgers, geeeez!

No we don't.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Don't quit your day job.

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