Harbaugh/Paramus Relationship "Genius"

[HailHailToMichigan]

Hey guys, as I was pulling into work today I was listening to the local sports talk radio here in Michigan and one of the hosts who is a Michigan State alumni and UM/Harbaugh "hater" was about to talk about Harbaugh and Paramus so I figured I'd record it for you guys. I had no idea what was to be said, just thought you'd be interested in whatever was going to be said.



Also the random clips of a man moaning is of another radio host (Wojo) who does the show after these guys and the running joke is his hard on for Harbaugh/Michigan as he's always covering them. Thus they play random moans from him and such whenever Harbaugh is discussed.

 

[LevaosLectures]

Please God just go away. Nobody cares about you or anything you have to say.

 

[mikemarc1]

Please God just go away. Nobody cares about you or anything you have to say.

Relax. I found it interesting...thanks for posting.

I disagree with their thoughts though...not worth alienating the other Jersey schools with such a close relationship with another.

 

[MADHAT1]

[pfftt]

 

[RUJohnny99]

I know you guys are begging for someone to be your conquering hero, but you gotta admit, this man is one creepy dude.

 

[HailHailToMichigan]

Please God just go away. Nobody cares about you or anything you have to say.

You literally reply to me more than my own family. So apparently you care.

Relax. I found it interesting...thanks for posting.

I disagree with their thoughts though...not worth alienating the other Jersey schools with such a close relationship with another.

I know I'd be interested if the script was flipped, that's why I did it. I've seen that argument a lot that it alienates the other NJ high schools, but I'm not sure Harbaugh is too concerned. If he can basically guarantee any top prospect out of Paramus then that's good enough and any extra is just icing on the cake.

I know you guys are begging for someone to be your conquering hero, but you gotta admit, this man is one creepy dude

He can be as creepy and unorthodox as he wants as long as it works and is legal. So far, so good.

I will say he has a lot of awkward interactions even when just talking. He's like the guy that doesn't know what to do with his hands in a picture.

 

[mikemarc1]

I know I'd be interested if the script was flipped, that's why I did it. I've seen that argument a lot that it alienates the other NJ high schools, but I'm not sure Harbaugh is too concerned. If he can basically guarantee any top prospect out of Paramus then that's good enough and any extra is just icing on the cake.

Let's see if this really does "guarantee him" every Paramus recruit. Not quite sure about that. Don't think its genius, nor do I think its terrible. It is what it is. NJ coaches don't seem to appreciate it, so that's gotta hurt. PC administration certainly like it..lets see if their football players do. Too early to tell.

 

[HailHailToMichigan]

Let's see if this really does "guarantee him" every Paramus recruit. Not quite sure about that. Don't think its genius, nor do I think its terrible. It is what it is. NJ coaches don't seem to appreciate it, so that's gotta hurt. PC administration certainly like it..lets see if their football players do. Too early to tell.

Well just about every top player out of Paramus last year came here and so far Singleton and Bolds (the two Paramus players in NJ's top 10) are considered strong Michigan leans.

If this were an Ohio or Florida high school I think the alienation of other high schools in the state would be more concerning since those are two states that Michigan always recruits very well in. New Jersey up until last year was not really a hotbed for Michigan. So being able to theoretically "lock down" one of the best high schools in the nation that routinely produces top 100 talent in a state that really has no connection to your program is seen as a win.

On the flip side it can also be seen as a win for Rutgers if Michigan is truly out of contention for most other NJ recruits. But again, Michigan never really "poached" NJ in the past anyway.

If Rutgers were able to get in cahoots with a top high school out in say, California (assuming Rutgers doesn't typically get top recruits from CA) and get 1 or 2 top 100 players a year out of the school but most likely miss out on all the kids from other California schools that they probably wouldn't have gotten anyway, wouldn't you consider that a net positive?

 

[mikemarc1]

Well just about every top player out of Paramus last year came here and so far Singleton and Bolds (the two Paramus players in NJ's top 10) are considered strong Michigan leans.

If this were an Ohio or Florida high school I think the alienation of other high schools in the state would be more concerning since those are two states that Michigan always recruits very well in. New Jersey up until last year was not really a hotbed for Michigan. So being able to theoretically "lock down" one of the best high schools in the nation that routinely produces top 100 talent in a state that really has no connection to your program is seen as a win.

On the flip side it can also be seen as a win for Rutgers if Michigan is truly out of contention for most other NJ recruits. But again, Michigan never really "poached" NJ in the past anyway.

True..again though...lets see if Singleton and Bolds do commit. If they were such a "lock" to Michigan...what's the holdup?

 

[HailHailToMichigan]

True..again though...lets see if Singleton and Bolds do commit. If they were such a "lock" to Michigan...what's the holdup?

Well these days even their commit wouldn't mean anything till signing day.

NCAA needs to allow early signings. If coaches are willing to submit an offer and kids are so "committed" they should have no problem being binded now instead of March or whenever signing day is.

 

[JoeRU0304]

You literally reply to me more than my own family. So apparently you care.


I know I'd be interested if the script was flipped, that's why I did it. I've seen that argument a lot that it alienates the other NJ high schools, but I'm not sure Harbaugh is too concerned. If he can basically guarantee any top prospect out of Paramus then that's good enough and any extra is just icing on the cake.



He can be as creepy and unorthodox as he wants as long as it works and is legal. So far, so good.

I will say he has a lot of awkward interactions even when just talking. He's like the guy that doesn't know what to do with his hands in a picture.

Your second paragraph is actually a fair point. Since UM tends to recruit nationally, I do think they really don't care if they alienate the other NJ programs and are using their 'NJ hooks' for all they're worth. Once they tap PC dry (probably next year or 2- PC hasnt been nearly as consistently good as their local peer schools in NJ), I think UM will just 'peace out' on PC ala Shooter McGavin to his obsessive fan in Happy Gilmore.


Joe P.

 

[BoogieKnight]

First of all, it's Paramus Catholic. Second, I doubt Bolds has the grades for UM and I don't think his offer is commitable at the moment. Singleton will wind up at Michigan though. Finally, Harbaugh and Partridge are legitimizing Rutgers, giving us national attention we wouldn't otherwise receive in June so thank you. Paul Feinbaum today is quoted as saying "Rutgers is the second best college team in its own state at the moment behind UM" which I find to be ironic because Michigan is actually the second best team in its own state behind MSU at the current moment. I say keep the attention coming, it's actually great for us.

 

[Scarlet Jerry]

Thanks for sharing. Wojo was a reporter who used to work at a NJ newspaper and was always very critical of our football team. We are very happy that he is in Michigan now. We have another guy who we would like to export to as well. His name is Steve Politi. Let us know if you are interested.

-Scarlet Jerry

 

[motorb54]

For players at Paramus Catholic won't the Partridge influence decrease at a rapid rate?

But for coaches at other schools won't their dislike linger?

 

[ruready07]

For players at Paramus Catholic won't the Partridge influence decrease at a rapid rate?

But for coaches at other schools won't their dislike linger?

At Paramus catholic, like the other football powers in north jersey, the big names in football don't lose their power over the years. Names and stories get passed down year after year and legend grows.
I played at one of these schools, and we would know of and know guys who played for as far back as 20 years.
Partridge was first a state championship captain at pc, then a state champion coach... His name won't fade over there.

 

[miketd1]

At Paramus catholic, like the other football powers in north jersey, the big names in football don't lose their power over the years. Names and stories get passed down year after year and legend grows.
I played at one of these schools, and we would know of and know guys who played for as far back as 20 years.
Partridge was first a state championship captain at pc, then a state champion coach... His name won't fade over there.

...and outside PC, his name will live in infamy.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

For those of you outside of New Jersey, I really don't think you understand just how much Paramus Catholic and Partridge are hated here by other High Schools and High School Coaches. So much so, that Michigan is actually doing Rutgers and OSU a huge favor with their actions.

 

[RUchip]

Well just about every top player out of Paramus last year came here and so far Singleton and Bolds (the two Paramus players in NJ's top 10) are considered strong Michigan leans.

If this were an Ohio or Florida high school I think the alienation of other high schools in the state would be more concerning since those are two states that Michigan always recruits very well in. New Jersey up until last year was not really a hotbed for Michigan. So being able to theoretically "lock down" one of the best high schools in the nation that routinely produces top 100 talent in a state that really has no connection to your program is seen as a win.

On the flip side it can also be seen as a win for Rutgers if Michigan is truly out of contention for most other NJ recruits. But again, Michigan never really "poached" NJ in the past anyway.

If Rutgers were able to get in cahoots with a top high school out in say, California (assuming Rutgers doesn't typically get top recruits from CA) and get 1 or 2 top 100 players a year out of the school but most likely miss out on all the kids from other California schools that they probably wouldn't have gotten anyway, wouldn't you consider that a net positive?

Shut up and gtfo

 

[eceres]

For players at Paramus Catholic won't the Partridge influence decrease at a rapid rate?

But for coaches at other schools won't their dislike linger?

You realize he picked his replacement? The connection will stay strong. Hail is right it's good for them, alienating northern NJ is a lie cost for them to lock down to recruits from a strong program.

 

[LevaosLectures]

You literally reply to me more than my own family. So apparently you care.

Haha. This Ferris State dropout doesn't know the meaning of the word literally.

 

[DJ Spanky]

Haha. This Ferris State dropout doesn't know the meaning of the word literally.

I think his reply says more about his relationship with his family.

 

[B0ski]

You realize he picked his replacement? The connection will stay strong. Hail is right it's good for them, alienating northern NJ is a lie cost for them to lock down to recruits from a strong program.

You realize his picked replacement never coached a game? And now they have another HC. So now they are 3 coaches removed from Partridge.

 

[vkj91]

You realize he picked his replacement? The connection will stay strong. Hail is right it's good for them, alienating northern NJ is a lie cost for them to lock down to recruits from a strong program.

you realize the guy he picked has already moved on? He has not relationship with the actual current coach.

 

[PaKnight]

I know you guys are begging for someone to be your conquering hero, but you gotta admit, this man is one creepy dude.

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[vkj91]

Here's the problem with comments like this from national radio/media and or Michigan fans not from NJ. Tehy have no clue about the actual landscape of NJ Parochial football. PC is NOT the best program in NJ, in fact, they are historically towards the bottom of Parochials. There rise to fame was a direct correlation of two major factors. CP's willingness to do anything to get freshman players and transfers. More importantly his families vast wealth and his ability to use it to grow their footprint. Both of those things are gone now.

 

[BlockR]

Well just about every top player out of Paramus last year came here and so far Singleton and Bolds (the two Paramus players in NJ's top 10) are considered strong Michigan leans.

If this were an Ohio or Florida high school I think the alienation of other high schools in the state would be more concerning since those are two states that Michigan always recruits very well in. New Jersey up until last year was not really a hotbed for Michigan. So being able to theoretically "lock down" one of the best high schools in the nation that routinely produces top 100 talent in a state that really has no connection to your program is seen as a win.

On the flip side it can also be seen as a win for Rutgers if Michigan is truly out of contention for most other NJ recruits. But again, Michigan never really "poached" NJ in the past anyway.

If Rutgers were able to get in cahoots with a top high school out in say, California (assuming Rutgers doesn't typically get top recruits from CA) and get 1 or 2 top 100 players a year out of the school but most likely miss out on all the kids from other California schools that they probably wouldn't have gotten anyway, wouldn't you consider that a net positive?

You are missing the picture..Harbaughs Clown antics have united every other prep and public power progam in NJ AGAINST Paramus Catholic.So unification hating Paramus Catholic and Michigan in State Of New Jersey is now confirmed! Great Job! and PS: your great Coach has Rutgers so much in his head that he tweeted about "Secret Society" last night due to his paranoia about Rutgers..LOVE IT!

 

[oldman87]

Bolds is not a Michigan lean.

 

[RU-05]

I listened to about 40 seconds of that radio clip. That was about all I could handle. Can't get much lamer then those guys.

 

[RU-05]

Odd part of all this is Harbaugh already had PC in his pocket, Michigan already have Peppers, they already have Gary, why alienate the rest of NJ to further secure a school which they have locked up?

I don't think I'm being a homer when I say this, but imo, this has all been beneficial to RU. In numerous ways.

 

[eceres]

You realize his picked replacement never coached a game? And now they have another HC. So now they are 3 coaches removed from Partridge.

Obviously I missed that, good news.

 

[Caliknight]

Rutgers is getting far more out of this under Ash than they would have otherwise. It took a strange Michigan coach and shady former NJ parochial coach to do it, but we finally have stronger relationships with the best schools in the state.

Thank you, Michigan.

 

[beaced]

For players at Paramus Catholic won't the Partridge influence decrease at a rapid rate?

But for coaches at other schools won't their dislike linger?

LINGER? Please allow me to finish that statement. Linger and GROW!!

 

[ruready07]

you realize the guy he picked has already moved on? He has not relationship with the actual current coach.

the program is still run by the same people. The new coach was a bit shocked, to put it lightly, about what the north jersey parochial league was all about. He didnt know about the recruiting wars, didnt know about each school's recruiting budget, about the elite athlete's mentality. The new coach is a very good Xs and Os guy, but there is way way more to north jersey parochial football than x's and o's .. unfortunately.
But if you want to coach big time college football some day, grabbing a head coaching gig at one of the NJ catholics is the last step before doing so. Sabella can get a college job after one decent year.

Actually, I feel that guys who coach in the big north catholic league in NJ are more prepared to coach at power 5 schools than guys coming from group of 5 or 1aa. Its gotten that competitive.

 

[Wolv RU]

I listened to about 40 seconds of that radio clip. That was about all I could handle. Can't get much lamer then those guys.

You went back to Francesa then?

J/K, but even if not top quality, at least they're talking college football.

 

[MADHAT1]

Michigan's relationship with PC is solid and the Wolverines will do everything they can to keep it that way.
But now Rutgers is gaining solid relationships with the other NJ HS FB programs, who had turned their backs on RU , because of Harbaugh fawning all over PC.

Michigan's HC has given RU a boost when going after local HS talent and that HC and Michigan fans don't realize how they turned the NJ HS FB Coaching fraternity into RU allies and made Ash's recruiting efforts in Jersey far better than before Harbaugh used PC as his Jersey base.

 

[rpiseman]

you realize the guy he picked has already moved on? He has not relationship with the actual current coach.

He absolutely has a relationship with sabella.

 

[vkj91]

the program is still run by the same people. The new coach was a bit shocked, to put it lightly, about what the north jersey parochial league was all about. He didnt know about the recruiting wars, didnt know about each school's recruiting budget, about the elite athlete's mentality. The new coach is a very good Xs and Os guy, but there is way way more to north jersey parochial football than x's and o's .. unfortunately.
But if you want to coach big time college football some day, grabbing a head coaching gig at one of the NJ catholics is the last step before doing so. Sabella can get a college job after one decent year.

Actually, I feel that guys who coach in the big north catholic league in NJ are more prepared to coach at power 5 schools than guys coming from group of 5 or 1aa. Its gotten that competitive.

your post confuses me. Sabella was not hand picked by Partridge. He is the third coach since Partridge left. Also, your comment about Parochial coaches being ready for P5 jobs over actual college coaches is kind of silly. I will agree with you about him beign a very good x and o HS coach.

 

[vkj91]

He absolutely has a relationship with sabella.

Sure saying he has no relationship was a bit mcuh but he wasn't hand picked by CP and they aren't good friends. In fact, if they were even "very" friendly Sabella wouldn't have been so blind sided by the differences between Parochial and Public.

 

[eceres]

Rutgers is getting far more out of this under Ash than they would have otherwise. It took a strange Michigan coach and shady former NJ parochial coach to do it, but we finally have stronger relationships with the best schools in the state.

Thank you, Michigan.

Are we selling Ash and Mantz short by giving credit to Michigan pushing other schools to be more RU friendly? Let's hope our ties are due to that hardworking regardless of this Michigan side show.

 

[Caliknight]

Are we selling Ash and Mantz short by giving credit to Michigan pushing other schools to be more RU friendly? Let's hope our ties are due to that hardworking regardless of this Michigan side show.

It's all of it. It's Ash's ability to articulate his vision and promote his accomplishments, it's the respect Mantz has amongst the football powers in the state, it's our B1G membership, its the school investing, and yes, it's also aligning against those looking to invade the state being led by a guy that everyone in NJ who matters seems to hate.

Life is about timing, and this has call come together perfectly.