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Nothing at all wrong with constructive criticism (not that most of us fans have any clue what we're talking about, but that's okay, it's part of being fans). Yelling at the TV or thinking, "c'mon man, move the ball and use the clock here" is perfectly good fan stuff.

OTOH, yelling or posting "caleb sucks" or "caleb should never play again" is not good fan stuff. It's being an out of control asshole.

People can do what they want. And we can all be assholes sometimes. But for the folks who tear down the players and then refuse to admit that they're engaging in asshole behavior is where it gets too stupid to let go.
How do you feel about making 45k posts on a sports message board the majority of which serve to convince yourself that you're above caring too much about sports?
 
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Long time Rutgers fans use the game thread as a form of abreaction therapy and it's actually quite healthy. It's a reliving of the past in the present and All the emotional investment held in and released in a reliving of an experience like that in the game thread.
By the way Zappa's post should be the microphone drop on/of this thread.
Maybe for him but not for the majority...I haven't seen his comments and I would expect they would be respectable opinions of the current status of the game and I guess that's OK but most are just crybabies because the game isn't going how they like...What do they expect? Us to all of a sudden become an offensive juggernaut BEFORE we have the horses to do so? We are what we are, we will be up and down offensively this year with improvement next year and certainly the year after. Expect great defense (Yeah a few games this year they didn't but not many), gutsy play with sporadic offense ... Results will vary...really that simple this year...If the kid can keep it up we are in better shape...But he's a freshman, this last game can boost him or it might not...That's the next meltdown if he doesn't play well vs Minny or NW. Nobody has ANY pateince any more...grow up most of you
 
So you’re okay with putting players down but not the fans who put the players down? Think before you post man. Fans who put players down in public are an embarrassment. Unfortunately it seems normal to many. I prefer to protect the players and not some moronic anonymous posters. I doubled down on the market btw.
If someone is putting down a player’s play on the court, that is perfectly okay. They get paid a scholarship and some more than that. It goes with the territory and they knew it before they signed on. Their youth does not give them a pass when it comes to criticizing their performance, especially when you consider the format is a message board (ie not screaming in their faces). I’m not okay with suggestions they should transfer or criticisms of them off the court (aside from those who become criminals). There are exceptions, like Ami Finau who deserves to be behind bars for what he did on the field.

And yes, you can put posters down when they deserve it. They don’t deserve it for calling what we saw for 23 minutes as dogshit play. Because their play was the worst we’ve seen from them in years for that portion of time. If you want to ban fans from expressing passion, then you’ll also do without their ticket sales, BTN subscriptions, and Rivals clicks.
 
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Very strong judgemental opinions and comments by you.
I comment on coaching strategies and substitutions if I don’t like them in the moment.
I comment on bad shot selection, turnovers and WTF plays in the moment.
I played at the highest level, made plenty of bonehead and WTF plays, I expected to hear about and be held accountable for it.
I don’t read the game threads so while the majority of you may not step over the line I think we are discussing those that do. I don’t post negative comments but I get frustrated over bad shot selection, turnovers, etc just like you do. That has nothing to do with the OP’s point and my comments. The coaches hold these kids accountable for boneheaded plays. You see that.

As much as I liked you as a Baseball player, this is a much more difficult sport and there are so many more mistakes made in this game. Imagine even a pee wee baseball team making 19 errors in a game? So many more moving parts. Guys are defending you and if allowed physically forcing those errors. Baseball is a game of stats and there is so little action going on. It’s a great game but completely different.
 
This post is exactly why this thread is a waste of time.
Gotta ask...what does calling it shit on a message board accomplish? Being an angry dbag is a really bad look. Doubling down on it by saying that being nice is crap, is almost unbelievable. Almost.
You see, people from NYC don’t regard in-your-face expression as being a d-bag. It’s being honest and transparent. It’s passive aggressive cowards who soft pedal things that are actually the assholes.

I once heard someone say that NYC’ers are rougher but better than the LA folks who are gentler but not as good. If a New Yorker sees someone with a flat tire by the side of the road, they bark at them while helping them fix the tire or track down a tow truck. The LA person expresses empathy and drives on. Now, the truth is that likely neither do shit in this particular scenario, but the sentiment is accurate.

To reiterate, being critical is not an instance of not being nice. Get your last word in and then I’m done. I’m bored with this.
 
If someone is putting down a player’s play on the court, that is perfectly okay. They get paid a scholarship and some more than that. It goes with the territory and they knew it before they signed on. Their youth does not give them a pass when it comes to criticizing their performance, especially when you consider the format is a message board (ie not screaming in their faces). I’m not okay with suggestions they should transfer or criticisms of them off the court (aside from those who become criminals). There are exceptions, like Ami Finau who deserves to be behind bars for what he did on the field.

And yes, you can put posters down when they deserve it. They don’t deserve it for calling what we saw for 23 minutes as dogshit play. Because their play was the worst we’ve seen from them in years for that portion of time. If you want to ban fans from expressing passion, then you’ll also do without their ticket sales, BTN subscriptions, and Rivals clicks.
I didn’t put anyone down for saying we played like crap. Personal insults are weak sauce. Just because everyone does it does not make it right. Think back to the Peyton Manning commercial when he was heckling people at their jobs. Loved that commercial.

The team is playing like crap. Too many boneheaded plays. Bad shot selection. Lack of effort. I see all of those things from time to time in games. If you need to point them out to make yourself feel better for 1 second and then keep doing it that’s fine. It’s your addiction. If you call out a player you deserve for fans to trash you.
 
The "what does doing X on a message board accomplish?" posts get me every time. What does being positive on a message board accomplish? The whole board is just entertainment.
 
How do you feel about making 45k posts on a sports message board the majority of which serve to convince yourself that you're above caring too much about sports?
Trying to rationalize behavior where one tears down the players on a sports forum as just "caring too much" is like telling a jury that murdering one's wife wasn't actual murder because it was just caring too much about her to let her live after she cheated.

"I cared so much I had to kill her." Not guilty!

"I care so much about our team, I had no choice but to say Caleb sucked more than all other players in the Big Ten combined!." What a great fan. 🤣

Oh, and I feel pretty great, thanks for asking. How you doin?
 
I don’t read the game threads so while the majority of you may not step over the line I think we are discussing those that do. I don’t post negative comments but I get frustrated over bad shot selection, turnovers, etc just like you do. That has nothing to do with the OP’s point and my comments. The coaches hold these kids accountable for boneheaded plays. You see that.

As much as I liked you as a Baseball player, this is a much more difficult sport and there are so many more mistakes made in this game. Imagine even a pee wee baseball team making 19 errors in a game? So many more moving parts. Guys are defending you and if allowed physically forcing those errors. Baseball is a game of stats and there is so little action going on. It’s a great game but completely different.
Played ice hockey and football well enough to be 1st team all state in both sports and recruited by dozens of D 1 schools in both sports.
I’m not comparing it to baseball.
I’m saying diehard fanatics in the game thread respond with emotion and sometimes question coaching and play on the floor in the moment.
Get him out
WTF Caleb
Lol Hyatt
Jeez Paul
What are you doing with that lineup Pike.
All perfectly acceptable to me
 
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Trying to rationalize behavior where one tears down the players on a sports forum as just "caring too much" is like telling a jury that murdering one's wife wasn't actual murder because it was just caring too much about her to let her live after she cheated.

"I cared so much I had to kill her." Not guilty!

"I care so much about our team, I had no choice but to say Caleb sucked more than all other players in the Big Ten combined!." What a great fan. 🤣
This is dumber than like 99% of the game thread. Yes, posting "Caleb sucks" and, um, murder are very similar actions that should be viewed through the same lens.
Oh, and I feel pretty great, thanks for asking. How you doin?
Pretty good. Just enjoying how ypu don't seem to see the irony of, for example, spending tens of posts trying to convince people that complaining about refs "accomplishes nothing" :)
 
Well, for some it may be therapeutic to be able to vent, and also as they say, misery loves company...

But I'm not sure that the criticisms during the game would've been as harsh if the team hadn't also frustrated many fans with their play in other recent games, and if it didn't appear that the chance for a potential NCAA bid might be rapidly deteriorating before the eyes of many posters, (especially when the basketball being played was amazingly bad for about 50% of the game, and during that period there wasn't much reason to believe that things would drastically change..)
 
Sorry, that's an excuse for those showing their immaturity and we all are guilty of being immature, but as was stated some never learn and some respect the team and players enough to keep quiet. Worst of all it's the self appointed experts who are the loudest and seem to support the team only in good times and think their attacks make them more expert. They then write long essays , trying to justify their attacks-- its not a good look.
Not excusing some of the posts, just stating that it's the reality of game threads for all sports/teams these days.
 
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I don’t buy these fans who claim they just sit there silently when we’re playing poorly and say nothing. Granted, they may not post it but they are absolutely talking to their buddy, wife, kids, yelling at the TV, etc., about how we’re not playing well, this particular player is struggling, Pike needs to make adjustments, etc.

It's great times.
We all go over our friends house to watch Giants Sunday night football games.

We just sit there in silence and don't comment on the game at all.
Pinnacle off fun.
 
Played ice hockey and football well enough to be 1st team all state in both sports and recruited by dozens of D 1 schools in both sports.
I’m not comparing it to baseball.
I’m saying diehard fanatics in the game thread respond with emotion and sometimes question coaching and play on the floor in the moment.
Get him out
WTF Caleb
Lol Hyatt
Jeez Paul
What are you doing with that lineup Pike.
All perfectly acceptable to me
I know your were a great athlete Al Bundy lol.

My judge mental comments are not made toward the mild comments you are using as an example. There are some really pathetic people on this board and I choose to defend the players over them. We have been down this road before in Football and why you choose to defend trash is beyond me.

I get it was a tougher world when you played but I also get that thousands of people get to read about every mistake these kids make and it sucks for them. and if I was at a Pirates game and heard a fan heckling you I would tell them to stfu.
 
Very strong judgemental opinions and comments by you.
I comment on coaching strategies and substitutions if I don’t like them in the moment.
I comment on bad shot selection, turnovers and WTF plays in the moment.
I played at the highest level, made plenty of bonehead and WTF plays, I expected to hear about and be held accountable for it.
Didn't you get paid to play professionally? Were you playing for a school? Quite different scenario.
 
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It's great times.
We all go over our friends house to watch Giants Sunday night football games.

We just sit there in silence and don't comment on the game at all.
Pinnacle off fun.
another excuse--people are talking about those attacking the team and players in a public forum not in your living room.
 
There are some really pathetic people on this board and I choose to defend the players over them. We have been down this road before in Football and why you choose to defend trash is beyond me.
Because the OP contains a bunch of posts that are perfectly fine.
 
The easiest way to do this, is ask the fans who are consistently negative, to do this one exercise.

Write down BEFORE the season, what would you expect the final record of the team to be..?? Do fans believe RU is or should win ALL of the games??

If RU or ANY credible NCAA team, loses 10 to 13 times out of 31 or 32 games, that means there are 13 times, where a fan is agreeing that a team is 99.9% going to lose.

Any sane fan, minus Geo and RHJ, would have signed up for 18-11 and 10-8 in the B1G prior to the season.

Any sane fan would have signed in blood/ink or whatever, to be on the 7/8/9 line of 90% of credible NCAA brackets with 10 or so days until Selection Sunday.

Any sane RU fan would have given 4 or 5 figures of their money 6 to 7 years ago, if they would have been guaranteed that would be at .500 or higher in the B1G, FOUR years in a row.

Any sane RU fan would have signed up for 2 5* recruits in back to back recruiting classes and 2 more 4* kids committed, with more on the way....!!

What I think is kinda weird in a way, is no one looks at the 13 other teams and says...

Why did Michigan State blow a 9 point lead with under 40 seconds...??

Why didn't Wisconsin foul before Hunter Dickinson, launches a 3, to tie the game??

Why did Shrewsbury, continue to mindlessly give Pickett the ball and ask him to create offense, when it stopped working for almost 15 straight possessions??

How come Illinois loses to Ohio State, a team that lost 9 straight B1G games??

Keep in mind, that was just this past weekend!!

What would you say if you were a PSU fan, a Sparty fan, or Wisconsin/Illinois fan....no one seems to think bad things happen anywhere else, only to RU.

Should the NW fanbase be happy that they're going to make the NCAAs, after missing since 2017?? Or will they expect to return to the NCAAs now on a consistent basis??

If fans could be realistic about how competitive the league is, the recruiting is elite across almost the entire B1G... the coaching for almost every stop in the B1G is pretty good....

What do fans truly expect?? Which is why in reading other message boards, the amount of "trolls" is much much lower in other places than here.

If we truly remove the trolls, who are really not RU fans, we wouldn't have this thread calling out the nonsense.
 
Not excusing some of the posts, just stating that it's the reality of game threads for all sports/teams these days.
And it still sucks--would you curse out a little leaguer or high school player at your kids game?--guess what you' be thrown out of the stadium and the reason is stated before every contest. This is a very similiar situation
 
another excuse--people are talking about those attacking the team and players in a public forum not in your living room.

A public forum?
This "public forum" and all "Twitter/Facebook" are meaningless.

Just because someone posts on Twitter or here or Facebook "Caleb sucks" it doesn't mean anything. Nothing anyone posts online means anything.
If the entire internet writes "Rutgers sucks. Penn State is better" none of it matters. We won the game.
Your precious public forums don't actually impact anything. Sorry to burst the bubble.
 
There is no excuse for it, no defense for it. It's pure selfish childishness - throwing tempter tantrums because they didn't get what they feel they're owed as fans.

"I'm such a great fan that I regularly trash the team when they have a bad game." Uh-huh. That makes perfect sense. 🤣

Watching grownups try to rationalize their childish behavior afterwards is actually a lot more fun than watching then behave like spoiled children in the game thread. We're supposed to grow out of throwing temper tantrums by middle school. Experiencing uncontrollable emotional outbursts is personality disorder territory in adults.

But, it's "normal" and "everybody does it". 🙂
Awfully judgmental.
 
Posting "Caleb sucks", where Caleb is a high level athlete such that there is an entire, active message board dedicated to discussing his team, is not even in the same universe as "cussing out a little leaguer at your kids game".

It's not even in the same universe as cussing out Caleb at Caleb's game.

Your metaphor is only the second worst in the thread, though, as someone previously managed to compare it to a murder.
 
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If this is the reactions to our live game basketball threads than I would pay to see some of your reactions to some live game basketball/football threads for other schools that I've seen over the years and the stuff other fans say about their teams
 
People can post what they want, and do ,and when they do they can be called out for the BS--tit for tat and deservedly so.
 
Because the OP contains a bunch of posts that are perfectly fine.
I don’t have time to read the whole list. I read a few and they sucked so I commented about how bad those comments were. I choose to defend the players and attack the losers.

Again, I stay away from the game thread sewage and don’t know why the admin even have them. They don’t go away after the game like verbal heckling and as I just said I verbally heckle live hecklers too. I choose to support my team and not losers.
 
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No one is “attacking” anyone. The very point of a message board is to exchange ideas/thoughts. All may not agree on tenor, content, etc — thankfully — or this would be a pretty lame place.

If you want to be super positive or way negative, I don’t care. I don’t waste my time trying to tell other people how to act or what to say (outside of my family) but feel free to carry on as you see fit.
 
This is dumber than like 99% of the game thread. Yes, posting "Caleb sucks" and, um, murder are very similar actions that should be viewed through the same lens.

Pretty good. Just enjoying how ypu don't seem to see the irony of, for example, spending tens of posts trying to convince people that complaining about refs "accomplishes nothing" :)
You're too smart to pretend to confuse an analogy with a comparison. No cheap deflections allowed for you.

And I see and enjoy the irony in everything, including spending tens of posts pointing out the obvious thing ref-whiners are missing while they whine about refs and accomplish nothing. However, I noticed that fewer people are complaining about the refs these days. Which robbed the potential irony of most of it's, uh, irony-ness seeing as how I apparently accomplished something.

Unless you think the refs have gotten better. 🙂
 
Posting "Caleb sucks", where Caleb is a high level athlete such that there is an entire, active message board dedicated to discussing his team, is not even in the same universe as "cussing out a little leaguer at your kids game".

It's not even in the same universe as cussing out Caleb at Caleb's game.

Your metaphor is only the second worst in the thread, though, as someone previously managed to compare it to a murder.
I guess you never paid attention before a hs game about why you'd be thrown out attacking players in PUBLIC--try listening to the words--something to do with respect,etc
 
Can I start the "Delusional" thread and go quote all these threads (not in game posts but full new threads):
  • Reiber is a 3 level scorer
  • Clif will be a 1st round pick
  • RHJ will be a 1st round pick
  • Cam Spencer could be an All-American
  • Spencer best RU guard of last 15 years?
  • Paul Mulcahy - NJs Point Guard enough said (talk about aging like milk now people want him benched)
  • Our offense needs to run through Paul

Or do we only get holier than thou over negative comments?
 
A public forum?
This "public forum" and all "Twitter/Facebook" are meaningless.

Just because someone posts on Twitter or here or Facebook "Caleb sucks" it doesn't mean anything. Nothing anyone posts online means anything.
If the entire internet writes "Rutgers sucks. Penn State is better" none of it matters. We won the game.
Your precious public forums don't actually impact anything. Sorry to burst the bubble.
so the players , coaches and families don't see or read the garbage? if they mean nothing why post the crap
 
I don’t have time to read the whole list. I read a few and they sucked so I commented about how bad those comments were. I choose to defend the players and attack the losers.

Again, I stay away from the game thread sewage and don’t know why the admin even have them. They don’t go away after the game like verbal heckling and as I just said I verbally heckle live hecklers too. I choose to support my team and not losers.
If there was no game thread then even *more* people would start their own dumbass threads about the game. Containing it to one thread is absolutely preferable.
You're too smart to pretend to confuse an analogy with a comparison. No cheap deflections allowed for you.

And I see and enjoy the irony in everything, including spending tens of posts pointing out the obvious thing ref-whiners are missing while they whine about refs and accomplish nothing. However, I noticed that fewer people are complaining about the refs these days. Which robbed the potential irony of most of it's, uh, irony-ness seeing as how I apparently accomplished something.

Unless you think the refs have gotten better. 🙂
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I guess you never paid attention before a hs game about why you'd be thrown out attacking players in PUBLIC--try listening to the words--something to do with respect,etc
??

Posting someone sucks on a message board is not attacking them. If I go on some message board related to high school sports and post that some player sucks that's also not the same as going to the game and telling them they suck to their face.

If someone got in Caleb's face at the RAC presumably they'd also have a fair likelihood of being thrown out (?)
 
Can I start the "Delusional" thread and go quote all these threads (not in game posts but full new threads):
  • Reiber is a 3 level scorer
  • Clif will be a 1st round pick
  • RHJ will be a 1st round pick
  • Cam Spencer could be an All-American
  • Spencer best RU guard of last 15 years?
  • Paul Mulcahy - NJs Point Guard enough said (talk about aging like milk now people want him benched)
  • Our offense needs to run through Paul

Or do we only get holier than thou over negative comments?
You could. It would draw out a bunch of the haters for sure, and then us supportive fans can make fun of those hater fans for their hatred.

Either way, it'll be entertaining, I'm sure.
 
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  1. a comparison between two things, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
    "an analogy between the workings of nature and those of human societies"
You're making a bad deflection worse.

I mean, if you really want to go down in internet history as believing that I was drawing a comparison, so be it. Is not my intelligence historians will call into question over it. 😉
 
You're making a bad deflection worse.

I mean, if you really want to go down in internet history as believing that I was drawing a comparison, so be it. Is not my intelligence historians will call into question over it. 😉
It IS a comparison. You just misunderstand what is meant by comparison. It doesn't mean that I think that you think the actions are equally bad.

It's just, in this case, the actions are SO far apart as to render the analogy kind of meaningless, IMO.
 
The easiest way to do this, is ask the fans who are consistently negative, to do this one exercise.

Write down BEFORE the season, what would you expect the final record of the team to be..?? Do fans believe RU is or should win ALL of the games??

If RU or ANY credible NCAA team, loses 10 to 13 times out of 31 or 32 games, that means there are 13 times, where a fan is agreeing that a team is 99.9% going to lose.

Any sane fan, minus Geo and RHJ, would have signed up for 18-11 and 10-8 in the B1G prior to the season.

Any sane fan would have signed in blood/ink or whatever, to be on the 7/8/9 line of 90% of credible NCAA brackets with 10 or so days until Selection Sunday.

Any sane RU fan would have given 4 or 5 figures of their money 6 to 7 years ago, if they would have been guaranteed that would be at .500 or higher in the B1G, FOUR years in a row.

Any sane RU fan would have signed up for 2 5* recruits in back to back recruiting classes and 2 more 4* kids committed, with more on the way....!!

What I think is kinda weird in a way, is no one looks at the 13 other teams and says...

Why did Michigan State blow a 9 point lead with under 40 seconds...??

Why didn't Wisconsin foul before Hunter Dickinson, launches a 3, to tie the game??

Why did Shrewsbury, continue to mindlessly give Pickett the ball and ask him to create offense, when it stopped working for almost 15 straight possessions??

How come Illinois loses to Ohio State, a team that lost 9 straight B1G games??

Keep in mind, that was just this past weekend!!

What would you say if you were a PSU fan, a Sparty fan, or Wisconsin/Illinois fan....no one seems to think bad things happen anywhere else, only to RU.

Should the NW fanbase be happy that they're going to make the NCAAs, after missing since 2017?? Or will they expect to return to the NCAAs now on a consistent basis??

If fans could be realistic about how competitive the league is, the recruiting is elite across almost the entire B1G... the coaching for almost every stop in the B1G is pretty good....

What do fans truly expect?? Which is why in reading other message boards, the amount of "trolls" is much much lower in other places than here.

If we truly remove the trolls, who are really not RU fans, we wouldn't have this thread calling out the nonsense.
You’ve been extremely critical of Paul’s limitations as a PG, lack of scoring , lack of shooting and lack of putting Cliff in positions to rebound put backs.
Why are you even responding to this thread?
You made it very clear # 0 should be running this team.
I didn’t make it up, I learned from you
 
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