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So where are we after 8 hours on this do we have a consensus? Everyone agree now?
 
So where are we after 8 hours on this do we have a consensus? Everyone agree now?
My thinking is that the game thread hate for our players and staff goes away if we win convincingly at Minny.

But if we lose then all options are on the table.

RU has some of the best fans and some of the worst fans imo. The game thread shines a light on them.
 
You know i saw Hyatt after shooting a brick jog down court as PSU dunked...i posted it in the game thread..oh the horror

You know who also saw that...Coach Pike

He called timeout and I believe Hyatt may not have played another minute
 
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My thinking is that the game thread hate for our players and staff goes away if we win convincingly at Minny.

But if we lose then all options are on the table.

RU has some of the best fans and some of the worst fans imo. The game thread shines a light on them.
I look at the game thread messages when things are not going so well
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when things look good
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It was 26-7 with 5 minutes to half and folk here are having a 4 page thread on this.

Its very simple..if you are going to clutch your pearls at the game thread then dont look at it
bac, did you really post during the game that you won’t care if the team doesn’t make the NCAA tournament?
 
Long time Rutgers fans use the game thread as a form of abreaction therapy and it's actually quite healthy. It's a reliving of the past in the present and All the emotional investment held in and released in a reliving of an experience like that in the game thread.
By the way Zappa's post should be the microphone drop on/of this thread.
While I understand what he is saying, if half of what was said in the game thread were said to his face while he was a player by some yahoo fans, I am sure he would have taken a swing at some of them. Constructive criticisms by coaches are one thing, venomous insults are another.
 
There really should be 2 separate game threads
One called "the rational fan game thread"
The other should be called "the irrational fan game thread"
It would be a very curious experiment
 
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While I understand what he is saying, if half of what was said in the game thread were said to his face while he was a player by some yahoo fans, I am sure he would have taken a swing at some of them. Constructive criticisms by coaches are one thing, venomous insults are another.
Who in the world would tell Noah Vedral he can’t throw a deep post because his arm is to weak?
Who in the world would tell Caleb, I wish they fouled Cam instead of him last game?
Are they off base comments in a game thread, I think not but I certainly wouldn’t say it to their faces.
Would anyone tell Reiber to his face he shouldn’t ever play against Hunter Dickinson again ?
I never understood don’t say anything you wouldn’t say to the players face analogy.

I was the recipient of the ultimate insult in Pittsburgh during a game.
After an error with the bases loaded allowing 2 runs to score and my pitcher ready to fight me…Some guy sitting on the 3rd base yells at me “I don’t blame you Dale, I blame the idiot manager for putting you out there”
 
This is dumb fans are emotional during the game. I like in game commentary. If fans knew they would come back from 19 points they wouldn’t make the comments. This is what makes sports fun
What is dumb is making stupid comments when the game has 15+ minutes left. There is a reason the intelligent fans don’t post in the game thread when the team is losing.
 
What is dumb is making stupid comments when the game has 15+ minutes left. There is a reason the intelligent fans don’t post in the game thread when the team is losing.
it's known as living the moment, the future isn't here yet.
Emotions sometimes get the better of common scene
Where one minute it's you suck, then the next moment it's did you see that play
he's my idol , both about the same player
 
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What is dumb is making stupid comments when the game has 15+ minutes left. There is a reason the intelligent fans don’t post in the game thread when the team is losing.
Love ya Bugs but I just don’t understand this concept on a fan message board
No players suck and imo no players quit or. Didn’t try…that’s my only no no.
If I think Holy Molly we aren’t scoring 40 tonight, or this going to get ugly boys…. who cares?
 
it's known as living the moment, the future isn't here yet.
Emotions sometimes get the better of common scene
Where one minute it's you suck, then the next moment it's did you see that play
he's my idol , both about the same player
Happens regularly…lol
 
The same people who want everyone cut in the first are the same people saying how proud they are of the team in the second half. Bipolar is one way to describe it.
 
The same people who want everyone cut in the first are the same people saying how proud they are of the team in the second half. Bipolar is one way to describe it.
Bruh.

You’re on a message board. For Rutgers athletics. A school that has never really seen success on a national level.

Obviously most people here are going to be complete lunatics and have a melt down when things aren’t going well, followed by streaking around the neighborhood when they are going well.
 
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Bruh.

You’re on a message board. For Rutgers athletics. A school that has never really seen success on a national level.

Obviously most people here are going to be complete lunatics and have a melt down when things aren’t going well, followed by streaking around the neighborhood when they are going well.
Listen you’re all clearly not well adjusted adults so I guess it is what it is
 
What Gef said and also these are pathetic comments by pathetic people. But not knowing anything about sports does not give them a right to be pathetic. This is the perfect combination of ignorance and cruelty. In a word …losers.
You know what? People are different, and fans are people and are different. Some are eternally positive. Some are almost always in control of their emotions. Some lose control and vent their emotions. But you know what? We are all fans.

I abhor the game threads and stay out of them 99% of the time. I would find myself arguing and wasting time instead of watching the game. @zappaa does not believe me, but I had a gut feeling during the game RU would pull it out.

Calling other fans pathetic people is engaging in the very behavior you criticize. As I have aged, I have become quite good at keeping control of my emotions and not overreacting. That took years of working on it. That does not make me better than anyone else. It's just something I have worked on and I am good at. I suck at plenty of things.

Judge less, understand more.
 
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When the consequences of a particular action are not proportionate or hyperbolic then the analogy is a complete fail. You can try to use intellectualization, devaluation & rationalizations all you want but it's a fail.
A. Message board "acting out" or devaluations/criticism in the name of love of the team is bad behavior. (So you assert). My claim is that it is not necessarily acting out but abreaction and relatively harmless.
B. Committing murder in the name of love is bad behavior.

You apply your own particular set of morality, ethics & standards for what you consider to be acting out & bad behavior on a message board for selection A.

B. Most would agree that murder is not an acceptable form of acting out in the name of love.
Try to keep up 😉

Ps - in the aftermath of such a comeback and win, it turns out that some of the harshest & and most ridiculous comments are some of the funniest since they are such bad takes.
Not sure I understand all, if not any thing, of what you said but I will hit like anyway
 
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When the consequences of a particular action are not proportionate or hyperbolic then the analogy is a complete fail.
That might be true if the analogy revolved around consequences. But my analogy had nothing to do with consequences. Misunderstanding or misstating the point of the analogy isn't keeping up.

Nor did my analogy attempt to compare behaviors in the way you're talking about it. In fact, it did the opposite.

The analogy intentionally, and humorously, cited two very different behaviors that varied greatly in ethical badness, scale, etc. It makes the point that if "caring too much" could be legitimately applied as an excuse for a relatively minor ethical breach, then it ought to be equally applicable to a massively unethical breach. But it clearly is not.

There are no bad behaviors, no matter how minor or extreme, that can be excused by "caring too much". At least not when the behavior is fully controllable by the bad actor.

Rather than continue to attempt to argue against a point I didn't make, if you want to find something wrong with my analogy, you have to find an example, somewhere on the spectrum of ethical wrongness, where "caring too much" actually justifies bad behavior. And you have to understand the analogy first which, so far at least, you have no done even though I've explained it two or three times now.
 
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Have at it.
If I don’t like what I’m seeing from Coach or Players I’m going to let you know.
As I said, i will never say anyone sucks or question effort.
If you're not trashing the coach and players, then I don't think most of us are talking about you or your behavior in this thread.

We're (mostly, at least) talking about the "fans" who are not engaged in constructive criticism, but outright demonization.
 
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If you're not trashing the coach and players, then I don't think most of us are talking about you or your behavior in this thread.

We're (mostly, at least) talking about the "fans" who are not engaged in constructive criticism, but outright demonization.
I didn’t like how quickly Pike went to the bench against Michigan with no one in foul trouble.
And I was unhappy with the way we were running our offense against PSU before Simpson took over.
I made those feelings known Mr Mildy
 
Who in the world would tell Noah Vedral he can’t throw a deep post because his arm is to weak?
Who in the world would tell Caleb, I wish they fouled Cam instead of him last game?
Are they off base comments in a game thread, I think not but I certainly wouldn’t say it to their faces.
Would anyone tell Reiber to his face he shouldn’t ever play against Hunter Dickinson again ?
I never understood don’t say anything you wouldn’t say to the players face analogy.

I was the recipient of the ultimate insult in Pittsburgh during a game.
After an error with the bases loaded allowing 2 runs to score and my pitcher ready to fight me…Some guy sitting on the 3rd base yells at me “I don’t blame you Dale, I blame the idiot manager for putting you out there”
I have more respect for that fan than most on the game day thread least he said it to your face. I am sure if social media was a thing when you played, that would be one of the tamer insults tossed your way. Anonymity brings out the worse in people.
 
I have more respect for that fan than most on the game day thread least he said it to your face. I am sure if social media was a thing when you played, that would be one of the tamer insults tossed your way. Anonymity brings out the worse in people.
Most?
 
I didn’t like how quickly Pike went to the bench against Michigan with no one in foul trouble.
And I was unhappy with the way we were running our offense against PSU before Simpson took over.
I made those feelings known Mr Mildy
Right, so nobody here is saying there’s a problem with that. Not that I can see. At least I’m not.
 
That might be true if the analogy revolved around consequences. But my analogy had nothing to do with consequences. Misunderstanding or misstating the point of the analogy isn't keeping up.

Nor did my analogy attempt to compare behaviors in the way you're talking about it. In fact, it did the opposite.

The analogy intentionally, and humorously, cited two very different behaviors that varied greatly in ethical badness, scale, etc. It makes the point that if "caring too much" could be legitimately applied as an excuse for a relatively minor ethical breach, then it ought to be equally applicable to a massively unethical breach. But it clearly is not.

There are no bad behaviors, no matter how minor or extreme, that can be excused by "caring too much". At least not when the behavior is fully controllable by the bad actor.

Rather than continue to attempt to argue against a point I didn't make, if you want to find something wrong with my analogy, you have to find an example, somewhere on the spectrum of ethical wrongness, where "caring too much" actually justifies bad behavior. And you have to understand the analogy first which, so far at least, you have no done even though I've explained it two or three times now.
The problem here is that you project on others your own personal definition of what is considered bad behavior/ethical breach.
Anonymous hyper critical, over the top remarks on a hyper emotional, evocative message board live stream is purely "bad behavior".(or an ethical breach as you label it). That is your & clearly other's opinions. I don't see it as "bad" or "good"or unethical anything...just silly, impulsive, spontaneous, at times immature, & rather innocuous in the end. Who exactly are these dopey game thread remarks (in the name of fandom) objectively damaging ? Why are such remarks so rigidly judged as an ethical breach - minor or otherwise ? Let's talk about the cold pizza my loving wife served me. Now that's an ethical breach to me but not to my relatives in Florida. They love it.
I suppose we can take a poll, but it is probably around 50/50 of those who find game day thread remarks purely" bad" as opposed to an emotional rollercoaster filled with a plethora of both positive & negative remarks often interjected by the same person(s) within a minute or two Ie. bac2therac
PSU coach committed what many thought was a breach when he called out his team publicly.. He did not do this in the name of hate since he clearly loves his players. I guess it worked because they proceeded to win the next few games going away.

You're a bright guy, but your hyperbolic analogy comparing what you personally define as message board related bad behavior/ethical breach (in the name of love or otherwise) is misguided.
 
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You know what? People are different, and fans are people and are different. Some are eternally positive. Some are almost always in control of their emotions. Some lose control and vent their emotions. But you know what? We are all fans.

I abhor the game threads and stay out of them 99% of the time. I would find myself arguing and wasting time instead of watching the game. @zappaa does not believe me, but I had a gut feeling during the game RU would pull it out.

Calling other fans pathetic people is engaging in the very behavior you criticize. As I have aged, I have become quite good at keeping control of my emotions and not overreacting. That took years of working on it. That does not make me better than anyone else. It's just something I have worked on and I am good at. I suck at plenty of things.

Judge less, understand more
Your comparison is very flawed. Who did I judge? I made a general comment aimed at nobody in defense of our players who were attacked directly which is in fact pathetic. Absolutely no comparison can be made here. If anyone is judging here it is you but I’m okay with it because I’m right here.

I was a team player. If someone takes a cheap shot at one of my teammates I made a mental note and he felt me it later in the game. Someone threw at one of my teammates heads and I was the first guy out of the dugout.

If I hear them saying this crap at games they hear from me directly. Count on that. Ive done it at both venues and nobody said a peep back to me. They knew they were wrong. I don’t judge them. I defend the players.
 
As I've said a few times, game thread posts should generally be given a pass, as they're the equivalent of typing what fans would normally be screaming and moaning at a game or in the bar. It's what fans do. The only thing that bothers me is when fans, during a game which is far from over, decide to start new threads trashing the team - first off it's just dumb, as the team might come back and secondly, it's premeditated, not stream of consciousness spewing and is a really bad look. We had a ton of that during the PSU game.
 
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