How many college 3's are taken at the 25 foot range, especially for a wing shooter.
He's 6'9", but shoots like he's 5'10"
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How many college 3's are taken at the 25 foot range, especially for a wing shooter.
I cannot EMPHASIZE on how much of a difference this makes
When you have guys who can shoot from 24-25 and make them at a reasonable percentage....it is a MUCH bigger difference than when you have a guy who's range is right at the stripe.
That extra step that the defenders must take to respect the shot is HUGE for getting post up space and creating space away from the ball to set screens for catch and shoot opportunities.
We simply didn't have that at all last year...and further compounded that people did not enough effort to guard at the line against us until it was clear a shot was going up and it was to challenge
Even small forward are shooting 25 footers from the 45 degree point ....so more than you think. Example...think back to how many of Ricky Shields shots were taken deep and where they were taken
Some of my favorite (and most frustrating) RU basketball moments involve watching Ricky throw up threes early in the shot clock from the R at mid-court haha.
If Thiam can continue his growth path and provide some spacing next year he can really be the X factor for us taking the next step (aka getting out of the basement).
I believe I posted this earlier in this thread, wouldn't hurt to have a PG who could get him the ball at the right spot on the court and the right time.
So now one of our big concerns is that Thiam does not take shots further back from the 3 point line ? Really ? Also, when was it confirmed that Thiam's max range is right at the line ? I have seen him take shots beyond that.
The current line is 20 Feet, 9 inches. Call me crazy, but, I doubt many coaches are looking for their guys to take shots out to 25 Feet. If they can do it fine, if not, no big deal.
I can see it now....a Coach telling a guy, " move back and shoot a 25 footer".....lol
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I will try this one more time.
Take a look at the video clip below. This illustrates how slow Thiam is in releasing his shot in a contested situation and how low his release point typically is.
This block of Thiam's jump shot is one of at least 5 that I remember. What strikes me is that you rarely see a 6'9" jump shooter get stuffed. That's something you don't see every day.
Can he improve? I think so, but the recent clip of his shooting form that I posted suggests that he is still doing the same thing. Shooting too low (the release point) and too slowly.
Take a look at the video clip below. This illustrates how slow Thiam is in releasing his shot in a contested situation and how low his release point typically is.
This block of Thiam's jump shot is one of at least 5 that I remember. What strikes me is that you rarely see a 6'9" jump shooter get stuffed. That's something you don't see every day.
Can he improve? I think so, but the recent clip of his shooting form that I posted suggests that he is still doing the same thing. Shooting too low (the release point) and too slowly.
He got blocked because he is slooooooooow off the dribble. Also no need for the 2nd dribble. He got blocked because he's inexperienced and tentative. Everything he did there should have happened quicker and with more conviction. Nothing to do with release.
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and the release on twitter which started this, looked better than last year.
Agreed. But if the things I mentioned don't change, we're going to have the exact same Issa.
That was not a slow release....that was a Super Athlete ( Miles Bridges) making a great defensive play, not many players in college would have recovered in time to get a hand on that shot. Miles Bridges probably did that to bunch of guys last year with his 2.1 blocks per 40 minutes.
Every player, on every level gets their shots blocked. LeBron, Durant, Jordan, Kobe...everyone.
Give it a rest
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This is right. OP is wrong. Also the screenshots in the thread show his release is plenty high. It just takes him too long to get his shot off. He does bring the ball too low gathering for the shot but his release isn't low.
The clip looks like improved form from last year but regardless Thiam will likely be the best shooter on the team this season. I'm more concerned with every other perimeter players shooting. Saying he can't help the team if he doesn't change his shooting form is just an ignorant comment
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It's not rocket science. The speed around the horn is not fast enough or at least was not fast enough last year or pretty much most every year against quality opponents. The sad part is when you run into lower rated opponents according to how we look at competition and run into teams that are just as fast if not faster and if you don't bring it, you get beat. Hence, part of the reason we would get beaten by an FDU or St. Peter's. The other part was not being conditioned or having a real game plan in place.
The good news is that all of those days are gone. We now have a coach where anyone watching can see that there's offensive ball movement that we haven't had in years. There's several different defenses that are used and switched and everything this coach does makes sense fundamentally. When guys continue to work within the system things naturally will get faster and crisper and that's when it gets fun.
An example of how bad it was for most every big ten game was last years Purdue game. That was a team we just could match up against. It seemed like a similar story with Minnesota and MSU. We played our hearts out versus Michigan and almost knocked them off. Maryland was also several steps ahead.
So that's the next in progression. And when things are faster and crisp, many of those Thiam shots will fall. Free throws are made and losses turn to wins. The right coach is here. About friggin time.
The good news is that all of those days are gone. We now have a coach where anyone watching can see that there's offensive ball movement that we haven't had in years. There's several different defenses that are used and switched and everything this coach does makes sense fundamentally. When guys continue to work within the system things naturally will get faster and crisper and that's when it gets fun.
An example of how bad it was for most every big ten game was last years Purdue game. That was a team we just could match up against. It seemed like a similar story with Minnesota and MSU. We played our hearts out versus Michigan and almost knocked them off. Maryland was also several steps ahead.
So that's the next in progression. And when things are faster and crisp, many of those Thiam shots will fall. Free throws are made and losses turn to wins. The right coach is here. About friggin time.
This. Everybody starts from the same point (having caught the ball or after stopping dribbling), well below one's chest, usually. It's how quickly can one transition to a release above one's head (as well as how high the shooter elevates) that is most important in not getting a shot blocked. And height, of course, matters, too.
This is absolutely correct. The natural shooting motion for everyone starts at the waist. Even if you receive a chest pass. You go down quickly and then proceed to get into your shooting form by bringing the ball up to shoot.
The only time you don't do that is when you get the ball close to the basket when you normally have to get it up quicker because of big men near basket.
