Hobbs had no plan

[Knight Shift]

I’m realizing now that Hobbs had no plan. He fired Ash (a year too late) without having a plan to go to. He is just now thinking through the process and putting together a search committee. WTF? I thought he was ready to go with a dynamic plan. Now we are the worst and weakest team in history and with each game one of the announcers comes up with cute ways to mock us. Things are exploding in front of our eyes. Thinking things would have been better to keep the lame duck coach in place until the end of season.

I'm realizing that you must have missed Hobbs' press conference, you chose to ignore it, or you have an agenda to make Hobbs look bad. Hobbs laid out his plan at the press conference, but for some reason that does not suit you. And he would not have been rolling out his plan until Ash was hired.

Maybe Hobbs' press conference should be pinned to the top of the threads:
Q. The process, it's a two-month process. I assume you're not going to hire anyone before the end of the season?
PAT HOBBS: My intention right now is that we would hopefully be in a position to announce at the end of the season.

You asked about a search committee. Probably will employ a search firm. We'll probably start having some conversations with some of those organizations late this week, next week, before we make a decision. But they can be invaluable in the process. They act as a funnel for information. Obviously if football coaches want to reach out, either themselves or through intermediaries, I would rather not be handling that part of the process, because we want to use all of our efforts and our time to make a considered decision to bring the very best coach here to Rutgers University.

 

[Upstream]

I'm realizing that you must have missed Hobbs' press conference, you chose to ignore it, or you have an agenda to make Hobbs look bad. Hobbs laid out his plan at the press conference, but for some reason that does not suit you. And he would not have been rolling out his plan until Ash was hired.

Maybe Hobbs' press conference should be pinned to the top of the threads:
Q. The process, it's a two-month process. I assume you're not going to hire anyone before the end of the season?
PAT HOBBS: My intention right now is that we would hopefully be in a position to announce at the end of the season.

You asked about a search committee. Probably will employ a search firm. We'll probably start having some conversations with some of those organizations late this week, next week, before we make a decision. But they can be invaluable in the process. They act as a funnel for information. Obviously if football coaches want to reach out, either themselves or through intermediaries, I would rather not be handling that part of the process, because we want to use all of our efforts and our time to make a considered decision to bring the very best coach here to Rutgers University.

I think that is a reasonable plan, as far as what he would publicly announce.

The part where he said he would start having conversations with search firms could be interpreted two ways. If you interpret it as he is going to start searching for a search firm, I agree that is problematic. He should have already known which search firm he would use (or at least narrowed it down to one of two). However, if you interpret his statement as he knows which search firm he will use, and is now having conversations to lay out the work they will do and the criteria, that is very reasonable.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Chris Ash’s #1 fan again tries to shout down other points of view after being completely wrong about everything for almost 3 years.

Keep making shit up maybe someone will actually listen to you one day.

 

[Knight Shift]

I think that is a reasonable plan, as far as what he would publicly announce.

The part where he said he would start having conversations with search firms could be interpreted two ways. If you interpret it as he is going to start searching for a search firm, I agree that is problematic. He should have already known which search firm he would use (or at least narrowed it down to one of two). However, if you interpret his statement as he knows which search firm he will use, and is now having conversations to lay out the work they will do and the criteria, that is very reasonable.

And as you and I have discussed before, nobody really knows except Hobbs and a few other people. Nobody knows whether Hobbs had the green light to fire Ash at the end of last season (but he surely got the green light after Michigan game). And anyone who Hobbs or Brown confides in surely is not going to post the info here.

 

[Knight Shift]

I'm realizing that you must have missed Hobbs' press conference, you chose to ignore it, or you have an agenda to make Hobbs look bad. Hobbs laid out his plan at the press conference, but for some reason that does not suit you. And he would not have been rolling out his plan until Ash was hired.

Maybe Hobbs' press conference should be pinned to the top of the threads:
Q. The process, it's a two-month process. I assume you're not going to hire anyone before the end of the season?
PAT HOBBS: My intention right now is that we would hopefully be in a position to announce at the end of the season.

You asked about a search committee. Probably will employ a search firm. We'll probably start having some conversations with some of those organizations late this week, next week, before we make a decision. But they can be invaluable in the process. They act as a funnel for information. Obviously if football coaches want to reach out, either themselves or through intermediaries, I would rather not be handling that part of the process, because we want to use all of our efforts and our time to make a considered decision to bring the very best coach here to Rutgers University.

Looks like Hobbs is right on time with the plan he laid out exactly two weeks ago. Maybe the thread title should be changed to the OP had no clue.

 

[SHUSource]

Get lost.

Outstanding rebuttal.

 

[SHUSource]

You have said that a few times on this board. But Seton Hall seems to be quite happy with the hire of Kevin Willard. Does Hobbs get credit for that?

Yes, he does. He has to, right? The thing about Willard, though (and it's a subject not too many on the Seton Hall like to broach) is that as great a guys as Willard is, and as nice as it's been to make four straight NCAA tournaments, he's still one exactly one game in those tournaments. So if that's truly his ceiling (and this year should go a long way toward learning more about that), that's not really great, is it?

 

[Knight Shift]

Yes, he does. He has to, right? The thing about Willard, though (and it's a subject not too many on the Seton Hall like to broach) is that as great a guys as Willard is, and as nice as it's been to make four straight NCAA tournaments, he's still one exactly one game in those tournaments. So if that's truly his ceiling (and this year should go a long way toward learning more about that), that's not really great, is it?

You do realize that most Rutgers fans would kill for such an accomplishment, don't you? I was at SHLS during the final 4 run, and I can understand that SH has loftier goals.

 

[Plum Street]

When you fire a college coach at game 4 you would think the AD had a well thought out plan ready to go. Shame on my for assuming this. Hope his search for a search firm is moving along.

Most good AD’s that understand football would .

 

[RU84]

Yes, he does. He has to, right? The thing about Willard, though (and it's a subject not too many on the Seton Hall like to broach) is that as great a guys as Willard is, and as nice as it's been to make four straight NCAA tournaments, he's still one exactly one game in those tournaments. So if that's truly his ceiling (and this year should go a long way toward learning more about that), that's not really great, is it?

When was the last time the Hall made four straight NCAA tournaments (probably soon to be five)? That's a pretty good ceiling. The Hall's not quite in the Duke, Kentucky, Nova, etc. class where that's considered their floor. That being said, the team should be poised for a deeper run this year.

 

[SHUSource]

When was the last time the Hall made four straight NCAA tournaments (probably soon to be five)? That's a pretty good ceiling. The Hall's not quite in the Duke, Kentucky, Nova, etc. class where that's considered their floor. That being said, the team should be poised for a deeper run this year.

I'm being purposeful about not hijacking the thread, but since you asked: No, I have no illusions about trying to be Duke or Kentucky. None. But if you know that just making the NCAA is the ceiling, then what's the big difference between that and winning four straight MAAC titles? If you know you're likely out after the first game, I mean?

I"d rather make the tournament less frequently, but feel like there is a chance to win a couple games in the years when you do. Still being in it even at the start of the second weekend is just a completely different experience (as a fan and to the larger public, in terms of perception) than flaming out before every school has even played a first-round game.

I realize I must sound like I'm criticizing water to a fan base stranded in the desert, but it does become frustrating to have talent and then underachieve enough to earn you a seed that has you playing tough teams right from the jump. Last year was the first year in this run I thought Seton Hall played to its talent, where making the NCAAs was a laudable finish in and of itself, so perhaps things are improving. The previous three years ended with thuds. This year will tell me a lot about what's possible under his coaching.

 

[PoorTailor]

Hobbs doing research is like a chimp with a rubic's cube.

And by the way, the chimp solved it so there is hope!!!

 

[RUtix4me]

If he is truly interviewing a a guy who is 8-35 at second rate schools, I am beginning to wonder about this guy

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Some people are so guilable.