apparently they dont play anyone good in non conference going forward so Yale 2x will be the only thing working for them
I cannot believe all the whining about scheduling this game
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apparently they dont play anyone good in non conference going forward so Yale 2x will be the only thing working for them
Lets reserve judgement on the game until season is up
3 porential scenarios
1. We are #1 seed in NIT and this was a colossal mistake
2. We end up 11-20 and this game got us to STAGE 5 Acceptance quicker
3. Players get a wake up call. Pike gets to tge optimal rotation quicker and we are tge better for it.
My $ is on 2
3 porential scenarios
1. We are #1 seed in NIT and this was a colossal mistake
2. We end up 11-20 and this game got us to STAGE 5 Acceptance quicker
3. Players get a wake up call. Pike gets to tge optimal rotation quicker and we are tge better for it.
My $ is on 2
Whining about scheduling the game at all, whining about it being too soon and RU not being quite ready yet, whining about the effect on the NCAAs, whining, whining, whining. It’s tiresome.
It's not about where you start in NET, but where you finish. This is going to be the highest their strength of schedule is for the rest of the year, as far as the computers are concerned.
If they crush all the teams they face by 20 wont they be in at least Q2.
That isnt going to happen because the ivies arent that bad and Princeton isnt that good
What about 2-lite, i.e. we are 16-15 (8-12) and don't make any tournament. I think that's fairly likely. I think 11-20 is very unlikely.
Right, but NET in it's current incarnation appears to be roughly kenpom lite. Presumably current kenpom is a decent predictor of future kenpom. I'm not predicting they stay there, just saying there will be some hope. You don't need a good SOS to have a good kenpom, you can just win handily against your weak SOS.
We are still in 24 hour window so i am covered by the emotional response allowance period.
7-4
5-15
0-1
12-20
Is on table. A healthy Mag and a continued health of Cliff would make it hard to imagine
I don’t know that it will improve much for us, but KenPom generally isn’t reliable until around the start of conference play IIRC. Last year’s data is still weighted pretty heavily (again, if I’m not misremembering)
I know you already know all this but:
In 2018-19 (a team that did better than 5-15 in the B1G) we lost to Fordham and went to OT against Columbia (both 200+ type teams)
In 2019-20 we almost lost to Bryant on opening night (they had a 3 opportunity at the end that would've won it), we lost to St Bonaventure (probably a Princeton-ish team in terms of NET) and lost to a pretty bad Pitt team.
In 2020-21 we started hot and then looked like total dogshit for 4 games in a row.
In 2021-22 we went to OT against Lehigh, lost to a pretty bad Depaul, lost to UMass, lost to Lafayette (!)
In 2022-23 we lost to Temple
As much as I love Pike, looking like dogshit in the early OOC season is pretty much par for the course. Especially as most here already felt that this was a bit more of a rebuilding year, and especially as this roster has had the most turnover we've seen in quite a while, I honestly don't think last night's result is any huge surpirse. Is it a good sign? Obviously not. Am I confident this team makes the NCAAs? No. Is 12-20 on the table? Sure, I guess, but Pike's FIRST team won 15 games.
It isnt the result that bothered me. It is who he played and who he didnt. The answer to replacing Cam Spencer right now appears unplayable defensively.
Won’t surprise me in the least if Princeton loses their next game, at Hofstra on Friday night.
I think Princeton is good, but their starters have to play too many minutes, which just happened to work out for them against us.
And you can’t count on them shooting 45% from the arc every night.
Correct. The scheduled great because they are the now known as being the best basketball team in Nj and when they win the Ivy it’ll be mentioned on end through the tournament selection process.
Very good outcome for them from a great scheduling move.
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