I think we have the BEST job in the Country

[rutgersal]

- No Media Market is bigger than ours
- population density within 1 hr of rutgers is bigger than anywhere else in the country
- No recruiting area is as fertile as ours
- No conference is as good as ours
- Our quality of schedule is second to none
- Our academics are second to none
- No one else has 3 NFL pro teams 1 hour away
- No one else has NYC 1 hour away
- Our living and dining hall facilities are second to none

The Rutgers job is a bigger opportunity than anywhere else. The right candidate will come in, and win, which will inspire our alumni to give BIG. This will then allow us to build the best facilities money can buy, keep our share of recruits home, and ultimately win NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS, which will then have a halo effect on the rest of the university.

We can go from a 50K stadium to a 100K stadium in a hurry, once significant success materializes. No bigger college football opportunity than the Rutgers Football Head Coaching job.

 

[Kbee3]

Did anybody have to actually look to see who started this thread after reading the title ?

 

[ScarletGrapfan]

- No Media Market is bigger than ours
- population density within 1 hr of rutgers is bigger than anywhere else in the country-Could be True(would not be surprised if UCLA or USC)
- No recruiting area is as fertile as ours-Not true
- No conference is as good as ours-Not true
- Our quality of schedule is second to none-Not true
- Our academics are second to none-Not true
- No one else has 3 NFL pro teams 1 hour away-True
- No one else has NYC 1 hour away-True
- Our living and dining hall facilities are second to none-Not True

The Rutgers job is a bigger opportunity than anywhere else. The right candidate will come in, and win, which will inspire our alumni to give BIG. This will then allow us to build the best facilities money can buy, keep our share of recruits home, and ultimately win NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS, which will then have a halo effect on the rest of the university.

We can go from a 50K stadium to a 100K stadium in a hurry, once significant success materializes. No bigger college football opportunity than the Rutgers Football Head Coaching job.

Agree it is a great opportunity

 

[RU89]

- No Media Market is bigger than ours
- population density within 1 hr of rutgers is bigger than anywhere else in the country
- No recruiting area is as fertile as ours
- No conference is as good as ours
- Our quality of schedule is second to none
- Our academics are second to none
- No one else has 3 NFL pro teams 1 hour away
- No one else has NYC 1 hour away
- Our living and dining hall facilities are second to none

The Rutgers job is a bigger opportunity than anywhere else. The right candidate will come in, and win, which will inspire our alumni to give BIG. This will then allow us to build the best facilities money can buy, keep our share of recruits home, and ultimately win NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS, which will then have a halo effect on the rest of the university.

We can go from a 50K stadium to a 100K stadium in a hurry, once significant success materializes. No bigger college football opportunity than the Rutgers Football Head Coaching job.

Al, some peoples enthusiasm is infectious.......yours is nauseating.

 

[KT71]

WELCOME back Al !!

 

[StyleKnight]

- No Media Market is MORE HOSTILE than ours
- population density within 1 hr of rutgers is MORE APATHETIC TOWARDS THEIR STATE SCHOOL than anywhere else in the country
- No recruiting area is as UNLOYAL as ours
- No conference is as DIFFICULT TO WIN as ours
- Our quality of schedule is second to none NOT COUNTING OUT OF CONFERENCE SCHEDULE
- Our academics are second to HARVARD, YALE, PRINCETON, STANFORD, NORTHWESTERN, MICHIGAN, VIRGINIA
- No one else has 3 NFL pro teams 1 hour away TO COMPETE WITH FOR ATTENTION
- No one else has NYC 1 hour away EXCEPT ARMY
- Our living and dining hall facilities are second to none AT GIVING YOU THE RUNS (AKA THE BROWER HOUR)

 

[jmg75]

Did anybody have to actually look to see who started this thread after reading the title ?

No.

 

[RUich]

Apparently, Al is back on the happy juice. Some of his points would be a lot more attractive if they were matched with a top program. Rutgers has slid back into the morass it inhabited before Schiano was able to perform the miracle on the Raritan.
We are now, at best, a stepping stone job. Granted, it is a better stepping stone than in the past, but it is what it is.

 

[RUinPinehurst]

No.

Was worried for a while, not having read much "spirited" commentary of late from everyone's favorite over-the-top member of SN. This installment, I especially liked the "dining halls" angle for luring a top HC. Outstanding, Al. Just outstanding.

 

[Sideline20]

- No Media Market is bigger than ours
- population density within 1 hr of rutgers is bigger than anywhere else in the country
- No recruiting area is as fertile as ours
- No conference is as good as ours
- Our quality of schedule is second to none
- Our academics are second to none
- No one else has 3 NFL pro teams 1 hour away
- No one else has NYC 1 hour away
- Our living and dining hall facilities are second to none

The Rutgers job is a bigger opportunity than anywhere else. The right candidate will come in, and win, which will inspire our alumni to give BIG. This will then allow us to build the best facilities money can buy, keep our share of recruits home, and ultimately win NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS, which will then have a halo effect on the rest of the university.

We can go from a 50K stadium to a 100K stadium in a hurry, once significant success materializes. No bigger college football opportunity than the Rutgers Football Head Coaching job.

What other job in the country do you have to battle your:
1) State government
2) Local media
3) Faculty Union?

 

[Kbee3]

-..... and ultimately win NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS.......

As a long-time Rutgers fan, NJ resident, and poster on this board I can tell you that the ONLY National Championship that Rutgers will ever win is when/if they ever start a self-flagellation competition.
We're Number One.

 

[jmc11201]

I'd only agree with Al in the sense that if someone could crack the code and win big here, this has the potential to be like USC back in the Pete Carroll days more than just about any other program. I think it is a long-shot, but if this ever became the hot ticket in town (exceeding Louisville '06), the bandwagon would be enormous.

 

[WhiteBus]

Im going to agree with Al on this one. 100%

The opportunity is here.

Look at what happened in 2006. Schiano and team was the toast of the country. Won every coach of the year award. Rutgers was on the FRONT page of every paper in NJ and NYC!

Some of you who keep making excuses for Flood, keep saying Rutgers can't win. BS! Flood has failed to take advantage of the great opportunity given to him! He was given a great program and within the year was given the biggest gift of all. An invite to the Big Ten. A chance to finally wake the sleeping bear. Instead he gave the bear more sleeping pills.

Rutgers is a great school. Rutgers is surrounded by tremendous talent, Rutgers has show that if you win you can be the media darling.

Stop making the excuse it can't happen. Rutgers needs to make the right decisions and it can happen.

Great post Al.

 

[DJ Spanky]

- No Media Market is MORE HOSTILE than ours
- population density within 1 hr of rutgers is MORE APATHETIC TOWARDS THEIR STATE SCHOOL than anywhere else in the country
- No recruiting area is as UNLOYAL as ours
- No conference is as DIFFICULT TO WIN as ours
- Our academics are second to HARVARD, YALE, PRINCETON, STANFORD, NORTHWESTERN, MICHIGAN, VIRGINIA
- No one else has 3 NFL pro teams 1 hour away TO COMPETE WITH FOR ATTENTION

Oooooooooo......those are gonna leave a mark!

 

[miker183]

I agree to parts. IF someone wants to build a program (Schiano did a great job of starting the process), then this is a fantastic opportunity. Our own version of Paterno, someone who can guide the program through the early years and eventually turn it into a household name.

HOWEVER, it is also true that NJ/NY sports fans will eat their own young (figuratively, of course); we are not, as a whole, a PATIENT group. LMAO.

 

[Nosoj]

No Media Market is bigger than ours

So what?

population density within 1 hr of rutgers is bigger than anywhere else in the country

Again, so what?

No recruiting area is as fertile as ours

Except California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Ohio, Louisiana...

No conference is as good as ours

Debatable. The lower tier SEC teams put a lot more effort into their programs than the lower tier B1G teams do though.

Our quality of schedule is second to none

Again, debatable but certainly better than it was pre-B1G and getting 3 of the biggest brand names in the sport every year helps a lot.

Our academics are second to none

Probably a stretch.

No one else has 3 NFL pro teams 1 hour away

Back to so, what?

No one else has NYC 1 hour away

True. I don't know how much a prospective head coach cares though.

Our living and dining hall facilities are second to none

No comment on this, I have no idea what your living and dining hall facilities are like.

The Rutgers job is a bigger opportunity than anywhere else. The right candidate will come in, and win, which will inspire our alumni to give BIG. This will then allow us to build the best facilities money can buy, keep our share of recruits home, and ultimately win NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS, which will then have a halo effect on the rest of the university.

We can go from a 50K stadium to a 100K stadium in a hurry, once significant success materializes. No bigger college football opportunity than the Rutgers Football Head Coaching job.

I do think there is a lot of potential to the job, but there's a lot of headwinds to fight as well. Maybe the largest gap from where the program currently is to the highest potential.

 

[LotusAggressor]

Im going to agree with Al on this one. 100%

The opportunity is here.

Look at what happened in 2006. Schiano and team was the toast of the country. Won every coach of the year award. Rutgers was on the FRONT page of every paper in NJ and NYC!

Some of you who keep making excuses for Flood, keep saying Rutgers can't win. BS! Flood has failed to take advantage of the great opportunity given to him! He was given a great program and within the year was given the biggest gift of all. An invite to the Big Ten. A chance to finally wake the sleeping bear. Instead he gave the bear more sleeping pills.

Rutgers is a great school. Rutgers is surrounded by tremendous talent, Rutgers has show that if you win you can be the media darling.

Stop making the excuse it can't happen. Rutgers needs to make the right decisions and it can happen.

Great post Al.

The key term there is "make the right decisions". We haven't seen a lot of that done in this program lately. I haven't seen the capacity for it, to be honest.

 

[HoosierKnight]

Run a clean program.
RRelate well to HS Coaches in the area.
RRRecruit average and Coach well oR
RRRRecruit well and Coach average
RRRRRepeat not your most obvious mistakes
RRRRepresent the school and the state well in public and private
RRRetain a talented staff to help you out
RRack up enough wins to keep us right below the B1G juggernauts or higher
wRite your own ticket to stay here or go the NFL

 

[Hondo77]

I for one am glad that Al has come down from the ledge..

 

[RUforlife]

I am sure the administration will use all of Al's points above as a selling point for the job right before they try and low ball the prospective coach.

 

[RBNY87]

If Rutgers competed against the Western division of the BIG, it would be a lot easier to win. Having OSU, MIchigan, MSU, and PSU all trending up, it is going to be tough to win even if we are pretty good. I think even MSU was lucky as they were able to improve when the other big time programs were down. If they were where we are now, it would be hard for them to also get to where they are now.

 

[Pritz99]

RUich,

Stepping stone???? Besides Schiano, name me one coach in ANY sport that has stepped up in class from being @ RU. There must be some, even one in all these years, but I'll be damned if I can think of him/her.

 

[RUinPAC10land]

In the end, it all comes down to money. If some RU alumni gave a huge donation and RU had the resources to double Nick Saban's salary, there's a good chance that he'll come to Rutgers.

 

[RU31trap]

I believe Rutgers Al is Rutgers eternal optimist and with all the negativity on this board his post are sometimes refreshing. But they are also just as unrealistic as those who say preach gloom and doom. This is not the best job in the country and will never be the best job in the country for a multitude of reasons. If all the stars align just right this can be an OK job. JMHO.

 

[rutgersal]

I believe Rutgers Al is Rutgers eternal optimist and with all the negativity on this board his post are sometimes refreshing. But they are also just as unrealistic as those who say preach gloom and doom. This is not the best job in the country and will never be the best job in the country for a multitude of reasons. If all the stars align just right this can be an OK job. JMHO.

That is baloney, RU31trap.

Rutgers enjoys the same structural advantages that the Yankees and Giants do. the only reason Rutgers doesn't have a world class football program is that our alumni haven't given enough to build a world class football program. Once we loosen those purse strings, we'll have a program as good as anyone elses.

Give us the same coaching and facilities that OSU and Michigan have, and we blow them into the weeds. You couldn't pay me to live in Columbus or Ann Arbor. but i can see why a football player wants to go there.

If everything is equal, going to New Brunswick is a No Brainer, and everyone from all over the country will want to go there.

 

[njknightsfan]

Ok, I'll bite and not to piss on your parade:
- No Media Market is bigger than ours: Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio St., Penn State all take advantages to this fact, the Media loves a winner or controversy, I don't think we need the Media attention that we have been getting lately or based on what I am hearing, soon to come
- population density within 1 hr of rutgers is bigger than anywhere else in the country - So what
- No recruiting area is as fertile as ours - How many top 10 recruits from NJ have signed on with RU in the last 4 yrs? How about top 10 from NY/NJ/PA have signed on to play for RU? What good is having a fertile recruiting area if you can't recruit?
- No conference is as good as ours - SEC might have something to say about that
- Our quality of schedule is second to none - debatable but an 100% upgrade over AAC
- Our academics are second to none - again debatable, Stanford, Notre Dame, Texas and many more that excel in sports have top rated academics
- No one else has 3 NFL pro teams 1 hour away - Ok, what's your point here?
- No one else has NYC 1 hour away - Unless we start winning, this means sh**t
- Our living and dining hall facilities are second to none - Ok, I guess unless the other schools facilities are an out house and a hut, who cars?

 

[RU31trap]

That is baloney, RU31trap.

Rutgers enjoys the same structural advantages that the Yankees and Giants do. the only reason Rutgers doesn't have a world class football program is that our alumni haven't given enough to build a world class football program. Once we loosen those purse strings, we'll have a program as good as anyone elses.

Give us the same coaching and facilities that OSU and Michigan have, and we blow them into the weeds. You couldn't pay me to live in Columbus or Ann Arbor. but i can see why a football player wants to go there.

If everything is equal, going to New Brunswick is a No Brainer, and everyone from all over the country will want to go there.

Al,
That's simply not the case. Your best high school athletes in this state disproportionately pick other schools and it is not necessarily because of any one thing it's because of a host of reasons.

1) your administration has been toxic towards athletics for decades. A tugawar between Athletics and Academics where professors eventually win over and over again.

2) your fanbase is split down the middle when it comes to big time football.

3) your state will not fiscally support the idea of big time football by appropriating addition funds. As a matter of fact they are trying devise a plan on how to siphon some of that Big Ten money by reducing Appropraitions which in turn will force you to use B10 money for other purposes.

4) Approximately 75% of NJ resident have no idea or interest in Rutgers football. My neighbors across the street can tell you chapter and verse what the Jets and Giants are doing up to the moment, ask them about Rutgers and you'll get a blank stare.

What you are suggesting will require a change in culture at every level. What you are suggesting will take a decade to implement. What you are suggesting will take 100's of millions to build.

I'm just being honest with you Al.

Trap

 

[rutgersal]

Al,
That's simply not the case. Your best high school athletes in this state disproportionately pick other schools and it is not necessarily because of any one thing it's because of a host of reasons.

1) your administration has been toxic towards athletics for decades. A tugawar between Athletics and Academics where professors eventually win over and over again.

2) your fanbase is split down the middle when it comes to big time football.

3) your state will not fiscally support the idea of big time football by appropriating addition funds. As a matter of fact they are trying devise a plan on how to siphon some of that Big Ten money by reducing Appropraitions which in turn will force you to use B10 money for other purposes.

4) Approximately 75% of your NJ resident have no idea or interest in Rutgers football. My neighbors across the street can tell you chapter and verse what the Jets and Giants are doing up to the moment, ask them about Rutgers and you'll get a blank stare.

What you are suggesting will require a change in culture at every level. What you are suggesting will take a decade to implement. What you are suggesting will take 100's of millions to build.

I'm just being honest with you Al.

Trap

I'm being honest with you. all this is nonsense. What it comes down to is whether Rutgers fans want a winner, and whether they will donate so that Rutgers can be a winner. the state, the public, and everyone else is irrelevant.

5,000 fans giving 1,000 gives Julie $5 million dollars to hire a top notch coach, the most important ingredient.

Miami previously won big having only a top notch coach and lacked high caliber facilities.

Yes, you can get a coach more cheaply, but thats fraught with more risk. a $5 million dollar coach will have the name and cache to recruit. now if you can't hire a $5 million dollar coach, you have to hire someone who can develop into a $5 million dollar coach.

then further down the line, we need a $50 -$100 million dollar state of the art football facility.

This is something we can do relying on our own fanbase only. Our fanbase has money. we just have to be convinced to part with it.

A top notch coach and top notch football facility are the only things OSU and Michigan have that we don't.

why do kids go elsewhere? they perceive the product to be better. by going to OSU or UM, they'll get the best coaching and train in the best facilities.

Once we can eliminate the disparity in coaching and facilities, Rutgers becomes a better value proposition than OSU and Michigan to Jersey and other area recruits.

 

[Nosoj]

A top notch coach and top notch football facility are the only things OSU and Michigan have that we don't.

Well, not exactly the only things.

 

[rutgersal]

Well, not exactly the only things.

well the most important things.

 

[KnightInVA23]

Is this a serious thread from the OP or is this sarcasm?

 

[lang06]

This reminds me of when Cooley publishes their rankings of the best law schools in the country.

 

[MoobyCow]

On the one hand, I get it RU has a lot of obstacles, on the other Al has some points. RU has been a 'sleeping giant' for a reason. RU was added to the Big Ten for a reason. There are issues here that make getting things rolling very, very difficult, on the other hand if you don't think the potential here is bigger than at most schools you're simply not thinking it through. The potential for exposure and money in this area is off the charts. You also have the opportunity to own an entire area that is really unclaimed at the moment. That area happens to be a very good recruiting area and one of the richest areas in the country. It also happens to be the media capital of the world.

So RU is one of the worst jobs if you look at how difficult it may be, and one of the better jobs if you look at potential upside. So how ambitious and how big of an ego does our next coach have? Is it a guy who thanks he can overcome obstacles because he is just that good? That's the guy we need.

 

[jmc11201]

I love that this thread is right at the top of the Football Board along with the 'We should have hired someone else as the AD' thread and the 'Our coach is screwed when our internal investigation into him as a means to fire him for cause' thread.

 

[Nosoj]

well the most important things.

Kind of. With institutional and booster support as you describe, it can lift you up to win conference titles and compete for playoff spots, but the status quo is the status quo for a reason. Taking that last step is really hard. Ask Oregon and Oklahoma State. The last program to win it's first National Title was Florida in 1996. And going back to the beginning of the BCS only 2 programs played for their first National Title, Oregon (2014 and 2010) and Virginia Tech (2000).

 

[RU31trap]

On the one hand, I get it RU has a lot of obstacles, on the other Al has some points. RU has been a 'sleeping giant' for a reason. RU was added to the Big Ten for a reason. There are issues here that make getting things rolling very, very difficult, on the other hand if you don't think the potential here is bigger than at most schools you're simply not thinking it through. The potential for exposure and money in this area is off the charts. You also have the opportunity to own an entire area that is really unclaimed at the moment. That area happens to be a very good recruiting area and one of the richest areas in the country. It also happens to be the media capital of the world.

So RU is one of the worst jobs if you look at how difficult it may be, and one of the better jobs if you look at potential upside. So how ambitious and how big of an ego does our next coach have? Is it a guy who thanks he can overcome obstacles because he is just that good? That's the guy we need.

I believe that well established coaches look for the path of least resistance and find teams that have the things you mentioned in place before they get hired. I enjoy Al's never say die attitude but the things you mentioned will take $$$$$$ and a great deal of unconditional cooperation and you're not going to get it because faculty will fight you to the bitter death.