I also have Nick Sirianni as HC for the Eagles, so 3 coaches of teams that are hot heads.
If Pike doesn't work out, and Hurley flames out at UConn...
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I think people don't understand how time works.
Let's make it easy and simple for them.
2023/2024 - Championships
2025 - 2nd round so far
Hypotheticals start:
2026 - Play-In/1st round exit
2027 - No Tournament
2028 - No Tournament
2029 - No Tournament
So in 2030, we should be overjoyed for a guy who has 3 years of no tournaments is still a hot head on the sideline and wore out his welcome, and potentially has a major or minor scandal/issue.
This also presumes we either keep a losing HC Pike for another 4 years or we drop a winning HC Pike.
between him and Big Dom, you've got two of the biggest hot heads in the history of life
You do realize a school like UConn would likely part ways with him well before 2030 if your hypothetical timeline actually happened, right?
Maybe the bar here is set so low here OTB that missing the tourney 30 straight years is tolerated, but at other schools, that's not in the cards
Ok. So when does UConn cut him loose from all the losing and he could come to Rutgers?
He won 2 championships but they would fire him in 2026 after 1 year of missing the tournament?
Actually it’s not at all hard to see why he turned down the Lakers. A rookie head coach with no NBA experience would have been inheriting a 40 year old superstar on the downside of his career along with his son, and a sullen center who doesn’t want to play center. While in theory LA can be great if you are winning, the roster mix had all the ingredients of a disaster for a first time NBA coach.
Good point. Other than being "The Lakers" the team didn't have a clear future.
Minimal assets, aging Lebron.
I would bet if Hurley was offered the job this summer with Luka - he immediately accepts.
Depends on their relationship, money involved, circumstances and who they've got in the hopper
Regardless, he's not missing the tourney 3 years straight and becoming a choir boy - lack of success + acting out = see ya
Sure it is
Guy had 70 mil guaranteed and Bobby a few hours away in AZ
Take the job, and if it doesn't work out, you've got 70 mil plus the UConn money in the bag
Get a TNT gig and call it a day
That's the thing - he likely doesn't
To you and I, it sounds like a no brainer
But Danny is a jersey guy
His wife is a jersey girl
UConn will suffice, but going out to LA wasn't in the cards, regardless of the $$
This “hes a jersey guy” refrain is nonsense.
You’re aware people from New Jersey are in fact capable of surviving outside of the state correct? They don’t spontaneously burst into flames if they spend too much time outside of the Tri-State area.
You're aware that the main reason he turned down the Lakers was b/c it was far away from his family, right?
That he's different from Bobby, who was cool w/going to AZ, b/c he didn't want to leave the tri-state, right?
That taking that job, with no recruiting and NIL, guaranteed life-changing money, and the ability to parlay that into something even greater, was at his fingertips, right?
That his wife was one of the main people in his ear telling him to stay put, right?
Why do you think he didn't take the job
There's only 32 of them in the league, and there's only one LA
So then what does "flames out" mean in your OP?
If Hurley misses the tournament the next 2 years he could get fired?
Even if you think RU accepts mediocrity - is UConn really firing Hurley with less than 3 years of missing the tournament?
We keep HC Pike for 2 more years (because of the buyout) and UConn misses the tournament for 2 years?
Just trying to understand what the scenario is where Hurley gets fired for losing so much at UConn and is still a top HC candidate for Rutgers.
I don’t think that’s totally true. Context matters. He wanted a 7 year deal (rightly) at a time where we were paying for 2 former ADs, a football staff and another basketball staff to not coach and were dealing with lawsuits.
I think the only real scenario is him wearing out his welcome with the AD or needing a new challenge and wanting to be close to home. It’s not really fathomable that he’d miss the tourney in any of the next few years.
He's causing copious amounts (and, unwarranted at that) of issues at UConn due to his on-court antics
That, combined if he misses the tourney for 2-3 years (highly unlikely) would be cause for concern up in Stoors, and likely parting of ways
I don't think he'll be missing the tourney anytime soon
The basis of the initial post was him causing issues, not winning big (e.g. natties and final 4's) every year (which cancel out the nonsense), and him not learning from his mistakes by continuing to cause issues, but this time it isn't copasetic b/c no natty
Two things were telling for me:
1. The 60 minutes interview
2. Talking w/UConn fans at the BET
Gun to my head, do I think it happens? No
But to completely rule it out, like so many on this board have done, is foolhardy at best
Because no one since Phil Jackson has lasted more than three years in that job and until they traded for Doncic it was a roster led by an aging superstar at the end of his career with minimal draft assets to rebuild with?
Even better
Get the guaranteed money and bounce back east where his home and heart is
Yeah, the lakers job was pretty overrated (last summer) for all of the reasons you suggested.
Fair critique. And to be clear I wasn’t calling you idiotic. I’m saying even putting the idea out there is bc to me it’s so far fetched.
I would say a few things in response.
1. Turning down the NBA is a whole different conversation. Same sport, yes, but apples to oranges.
2. I’m not plugged in with UConn fans but I can’t imagine he’s not a god up there. Revered coaches have done a lot worse.
3. As much as it pains me to say it, RU is no where near the caliber program he would have his choice of. We aren’t a serious program from the president down to AD (formers) and we don’t have an NIL watches which these days is a non starter. I know for a fact Arkansas is offering ONE coveted transfer $4.5M for one year. If he leaves, has a better chance of going to UNC, Duke, Florida, Nova, etc if east coast is a sticking point.
Maybe I end up being completely wrong. We’d be extremely lucky if I am. I’d love nothing more to be wrong on this!
I'd be surprised if this came to fruition, for no other reason than I'm a Rutgers fan and things this good rarely, if ever, go our way
Also, I'd expect Hurley to tone it down as he's getting older, has a family, and has a really good thing going up in Stoors
But, he's a Hurley
Takes after his Dad
Apple doesn't fall from the tree
And, again, he's a Jersey guy, through and through, with an ego the size of Manhattan
At UConn, unless he stays there for 20 + more years, and wins a few more, he'll never be on Calhoun's level
If he ever came here and we had a microcosm of success, he'd be considered on par w/Greg, or even higher if he won big
I said it when JayDog started this thread and repeat it now — if you don’t think Hurley wants to bring a National title to NJ, you don’t know Hurley. The Jersey thing is real and he doesn’t love UConn. He loves coaching and winning. He also has plenty of money. So, again, I don’t know when or if it will be SHU or Rutgers, but there’s no doubt in my mind he ends up coaching either school at some point in his career.
I'd agree, and truthfully don't know if he has a preference between us or SHU
Biasedly I'd think us, as he coached here for a brief time and having success at a big public state school in the B1G would trump doing the same thing in South Orange
Far more people care about Rutgers in Jersey than SHU, and winning big in the B1G would be a feather in his cap.
Wouldn’t shock me if Hurleys next stop is the NBA.
Seems like he had the itch for the Lakers last year.
Is it inconceivable that the Knicks go after him should Thibedeau get fired ?
Seems like he had the itch for the Lakers last year.
Is it inconceivable that the Knicks go after him should Thibedeau get fired ?
They’re more likely to make a run at Pitino. They need to win now. I don’t think they can risk going after a guy who hasn’t coached in the pros.
Unless they can convince Jay Wright…
Seeing as Rutgers has been around longer, there's a better chance Michigan ripped it off. Kinda like their helmet design from Princeton but to be fair the coach took with him. Or like OSU and helmet stickers. Big 10 likes to copy from Jersey schools in more ways than one.
It's ultimately a fairly generic label that no one school can lay claim to have started. There is a Harvard man. Being around from 1636, didn't everyone else since then rip it off from the snobs up in Cambridge?
The job was his and he chose to return to URI. I just don’t buy into the Jersey thing. He turned down Jersey for URI.
The Hurley family has done nothing for Rutgers yet we anoint them royalty. I personally just don’t get it. Time will tell!
The bright future is always right around the corner with the Lakers. Do they have down periods at times? Yes, but then they just go out and land Kareem/Magic/Worthy, a Shaq, a Kobe, a Gasol in a lopsided trade, a LeBron and AD, a Luka in a lopsided trade, etc.. Lakers will probably swing another move in the next few years whether in free agency or trade for a future running mate with Luka. Lakers have made 17 of last 45 NBA finals (38%), winning 11. There are down periods mixed in and Hurley might have or might not have been caught up in one of those, but they eventually always come out of it retooled with new stars. That’s how you make that many NBA finals.
This would've been in 2013 during an interim AD? (post-Pernetti and pre-Hermann) so whoever was in charge when RU decided on Eddie. At that point Hurley's college coaching resume was Wagner for a couple seasons and a year at URI.
Presumably he dropped the ask down by a year to 7 years when Hobbs came knocking only 3 years later in 2016.
Neither juncture would have suggested he was a slam dunk hire, not even UConn's hiring of him in 2018 after 6 seasons at URI....though by then his track record had been building enough to take a chance. This was still only 8 years removed from the HS sideline at St. Benedicts.
Agree. I’m sure after 2 national championships, losing today, turning down $70,000,000 and living in Beverly Hills, he’s thinking how great it would be to coach at Seton Hall or Rutgers.
I’d rather not win than have him here - he’s an embarrassment and NJ.com would have a field day
NJ.com are comprised of nerds who got swirlies every day from the star QB to the benchwarmer on the chess team. Why anyone allows them to have any power is a joke.
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