If Pike doesn't work out, and Hurley flames out at UConn...

[jaydogsmooth1]

Thanks for the lecture. Maybe it’s that the premise of your thread is ridiculous to begin with?

I've heard the following:
1. He'll never come here
2. He's too good for here
3. We can't afford him
4. He's too mean, don't want him

Have not heard one, single, solitary retort to the original post, and corresponding premise, of, if the opportunity presented itself, why he wouldn't come here

 

[RUPete]

I've heard the following:
1. He'll never come here
2. He's too good for here
3. We can't afford him
4. He's too mean, don't want him

Have not heard one, single, solitary retort to the original post, and corresponding premise, of, if the opportunity presented itself, why he wouldn't come here

How about: Hurley ain't going anywhere. I think you know the thread was ridiculous to start, you wanted a reaction, knew you would get some of the reactions you noted, and want to blast everyone for those reactions. Not everyone in the thread was opposed to Hurley regardless of how unrealistic the thread is.

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

How about: Hurley ain't going anywhere. I think you know the thread was ridiculous to start, you wanted a reaction, knew you would get some of the reactions you noted, and want to blast everyone for those reactions. Not everyone in the thread was opposed to Hurley regardless of how unrealistic the thread is.

You really think he's long for the UConn job with his antics and 60 minutes interview?
As I stated initially, he either cools it down w/the Bobby Knight stuff or he'll likely be gone sooner rather than later

My goal isn't to blast anyone
It's to have productive conversations about the bball team's future, one which I care about deeply via season tickets (I go solo, don't have a crew) and NIL donations

But similar to the FSU posts about the GOR, the same collection of people immediately poo poo the idea of going against the grain and trying something different, with no logical retorts to a perfectly reasonable and well throughout initial post

I'm not Al with these pie in the sky predictions
But in no way am I also ok w/the status quo - this year was inexcusable w/two top 5 picks and missing the tourney
Being out of it the past 3 years compounds the issue, and as much as I like Pike, it's getting late for him to really take that next step

And, in case you or anyone else on here has missed it...Newsflash - what we've been doing here OTB for the past 5 decades, absent of the magical 76 run, hasn't been working
God forbid we think outside the box and aim higher - for God's sake that's the American Dream right there in the flesh

 

[LotusAggressor]

The tolerance of jackass behavior rises with the number of championships won.

 

[RUPete]

You really think he's long for the UConn job with his antics and 60 minutes interview?
As I stated initially, he either cools it down w/the Bobby Knight stuff or he'll likely be gone sooner rather than later

My goal isn't to blast anyone
It's to have productive conversations about the bball team's future, one which I care about deeply via season tickets (I go solo, don't have a crew) and NIL donations

But similar to the FSU posts about the GOR, the same collection of people immediately poo poo the idea of going against the grain and trying something different, with no logical retorts to a perfectly reasonable and well throughout initial post

I'm not Al with these pie in the sky predictions
But in no way am I also ok w/the status quo - this year was inexcusable w/two top 5 picks and missing the tourney
Being out of it the past 3 years compounds the issue, and as much as I like Pike, it's getting late for him to really take that next step

And, in case you or anyone else on here has missed it...Newsflash - what we've been doing here OTB for the past 5 decades, absent of the magical 76 run, hasn't been working
God forbid we think outside the box and aim higher - for God's sake that's the American Dream right there in the flesh

Stop. An outlandish post on an obscure message board is not pursuing the American Dream. Again, he's not going anywhere. He would have to light one of his players on fire for a human sacrifice for them to think about getting rid of him.

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

The tolerance of jackass behavior rises with the number of championships won.

I get that, but his behavior is getting worse
Eventually, if he doesn't turn it around, it's like B Knight and they part ways
Full disclosure, was talking to some UConn fans at the BET and this was part of the discussion

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

Stop. An outlandish post on an obscure message board is not pursuing the American Dream. Again, he's not going anywhere. He would have to light one of his players on fire for a human sacrifice for them to think about getting rid of him.

We good but you're thinking small time man
Nothing in this day and age is forever

The guy's been acting like a jack the past few years
The expectations there are sky high
And he's a Jersey guy and has family 25 minutes from PWay

Will it happen?
Probably not, for a myriad of reasons
But to simply dismiss it b/c it doesn't fit your narrative, or b/c it's thinking outside the box, is equally ignorant

 

[RUPete]

We good but you're thinking small time man
Nothing in this day and age is forever

The guy's been acting like a jack the past few years
The expectations there are sky high
And he's a Jersey guy and has family 25 minutes from PWay

Will it happen?
Probably not, for a myriad of reasons
But to simply dismiss it b/c it doesn't fit your narrative, or b/c it's thinking outside the box, is equally ignorant

I don’t like wasting time on highly unlikely hypotheticals.

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

I don’t like wasting time on highly unlikely hypotheticals.

We'll agree to disagree on highly unlikely
At this juncture, I think it's safe to say it's much more highly unlikely Pike will last much longer on here OTB then Hurley comes on board

Again, I hope I'm wrong as I like Pike
But this year was completely inexcusable and embarrassing to say the least

 

[LotusAggressor]

I get that, but his behavior is getting worse
Eventually, if he doesn't turn it around, it's like B Knight and they part ways
Full disclosure, was talking to some UConn fans at the BET and this was part of the discussion

Knight was a jackass for a long time before Indiana fired him.

 

[NickRU714]

I've heard the following:
1. He'll never come here
2. He's too good for here
3. We can't afford him
4. He's too mean, don't want him

Have not heard one, single, solitary retort to the original post, and corresponding premise, of, if the opportunity presented itself, why he wouldn't come here

Why would you want him?

If Rutgers has all these advantages you cited, why would you want to settle for a coach our is afraid of the pressure to win (your premise that UConn is too much pressure) and wore out his welcome even with 2 championships.

Based on your own words, Rutgers should be aiming higher than that.

 

[cm_13]

Knight was a jackass for a long time before Indiana fired him.

29 years to be exact.

 

[fg7321]

I would take Hurley in a NJ Minute. New AD can do something bold here.

This program is in desperate need of a jolt of excitement.

 

[fg7321]

The tolerance of jackass behavior rises with the number of championships won.

Yes winning is everything if a catholic College can hire a guy who had sex with a woman in a restaurant and then gave her money for an abortion, hired prostitutes to woo recruits paid off recruits was investigated by the Govt.

it seems that winning solves all issues.

 

[RUsojo]

It’s a stupid thread because the opportunity to hire Hurley was mishandled and come and gone and there is little reason to believe a flame out would occur or time with a Rutgers hiring decision.
@jaydogsmooth1

The mentality of the fanbase you speak of does hold true regardless. Bar needs to be set higher. Need to consider what our competitors do and strive to go a step better in order to make progress.

Florida St is also top 15 in expenses. Not sure the analogy applies.

 

[rubs]

People need to forget what we were and start thinking about what we’re going to be. Our future is incredibly bright. There are no overnight successes and we’ve managed to moved from a “you don’t belong” laughingstock to a middle of the pack B1G athletic program. We finished 11th, not 18th.

We act like RU is so righteous. 11th is probably our apex and fits our profile of accepting mediocrity.

 

[fluoxetine]

This thread is so weird.

Pretty much anyone would want Hurley now, but he's obviously not coming here now.

In this hypothetical scenario, he has both failed to keep winning at UConn and also cannot control himself to such a degree that UConn has fired him. Are we sure we still want him?

Anyone who points this out is "settling for mediocrity" somehow.

 

[mjjoyce51]

I get that, but his behavior is getting worse
Eventually, if he doesn't turn it around, it's like B Knight and they part ways
Full disclosure, was talking to some UConn fans at the BET and this was part of the discussion

You talk about him "Pissing people off" but has anyone important at UConn publicly said anything? The only thing I see are media members and random fans on forums.

Bobby Knight wasn't let go because of his antics on the court. He was fired because he was caught on camera choking a kid in practice, a zero tolerance policy was implemented, and then he put his hands on another player that same year. I've heard nothing about Hurley putting his hands on players so this comparison doesn't work.

At this point there's no indication that his behavior will lead to firing so the only way that happens is if they underperform. After back to back championships followed up by an 8 seed this year, his seat is the coldest there is.

 

[e5fdny]

Knight was a jackass for a long time before Indiana fired him.

29 years to be exact.

And three NCs.

 

[RedTeam1994]

Well that's good, RU fans would now be ok w Hurley. Good Christ.

not sure what youre even talking about.

at the time, a lot of (most?) RU fans on here wanted him.

as far as RU not hiring him: at the time RU was considering him, nearly 10 years ago, he did NOT have NEARLY the resume he does now.... 2 National Championships. he was a promising up-and-comer at the time and his demands WERE VERY STEEP considering his resume AT THE TIME.

obviously in hind-sight it would have been good if it worked out but I didnt think the decision was wrong AT THE TIME and I try not to judge past decisions through the lens of today.

of all the HORRIBLE sports-related decisions Rutgers has made over the decades (i.e., obviously horrible AT THE TIME they made it...this is not even in the top 20)

with that said, this whole conversation is silly. he turned down the Laker job and then would consider Rutgers. this is an insane conversation.

 

[RUChow]

Do you know why he turned it down?
On the surface, it looked like a no brainer

It's NBA vs. college though
Night and day
Hell, K turned it down as well when people thought he was going there

Maybe it's important for him to have his family on the east coast
His parents are here, he's from here, maybe that trumps money and prestige

Remember, the guy's dad turned down numerous overtures to say at St. Ants
Danny wanted more than HS, but nobody knows what his true motives are in regard to his career aspirations

He probably likes working with kids, the intensity of the fans, the shorter season, and the way the college game is played. Its just more fun.

 

[Loyal_2RU]

Then give me Hurley.

There's no way he can keep acting nuts there and they'll put up w/it, bc when he stops winning (you can't win every year), he'll likely wear out his welcome
Have to assume if that happens, he'll get humbled (one can hope), and if Pike doesn't turn things around here, that will correspond perfectly with Danny taking over

This is assuming Pike doesn't turn things around - obviously, I hope he does
Also assumes Danny calms down - TBD on that as well

But it makes too much sense
Jersey guy, going to a program in need of a bball version of Schiano, much less pressure than UConn, coached by a proven winner at every level who learned his lesson the hard way and is a changed man (but still has that fire and wins big)

Hurley comes, I'm done

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

Hurley comes, I'm done

That's fair
Some people don't like him

I love the guy
Jersey through and through
And, most importantly, he wins

 

[ScarletNut]

I like Hurley too. I don't see him ever coming back here. I do remember the praise Bannon gave him in the press. He would let Hurley make the game plan because his film reading and scouting was so elite.

 

[RUsojo]

not sure what youre even talking about.

at the time, a lot of (most?) RU fans on here wanted him.

as far as RU not hiring him: at the time RU was considering him, nearly 10 years ago, he did NOT have NEARLY the resume he does now.... 2 National Championships. he was a promising up-and-comer at the time and his demands WERE VERY STEEP considering his resume AT THE TIME.

obviously in hind-sight it would have been good if it worked out but I didnt think the decision was wrong AT THE TIME and I try not to judge past decisions through the lens of today.

of all the HORRIBLE sports-related decisions Rutgers has made over the decades (i.e., obviously horrible AT THE TIME they made it...this is not even in the top 20)

with that said, this whole conversation is silly. he turned down the Laker job and then would consider Rutgers. this is an insane conversation.

Most people did not want him.

He didn’t have steep demands. What do you think was steep? Don’t forget Hobbs extended Pikiell within a year after 3 conference win season. And we announced the facility before that even.

This goes back to Rutgers will not ever be in a position to pay market for a coach they want that is already in a comfortable position.

 

[Plum Street]

never say never . But it would take a major scandal or many losing seasons for Hurley to wind up at Rutgers. And yeah I would take him in a heartbeat

 

[fluoxetine]

never say never . But it would take a major scandal or many losing seasons for Hurley to wind up at Rutgers. And yeah I would take him in a heartbeat

Why would we still want him after a major scandal and/or many losing seasons lol?

 

[Plum Street]

Why would we still want him after a major scandal and/or many losing seasons lol?

lol enjoy the games and stop with the stupid questions . There are guys coaching in this tournament that are both

 

[fluoxetine]

lol enjoy the games and stop with the stupid questions . There are guys coaching in this tournament that are both

Major scandal sure. If he went on a run of “many losing seasons” at UConn then I would be forced to conclude he had lost his touch.

A “board legend” should be able to defend his position.

 

[Plum Street]

Major scandal sure. If he went on a run of “many losing seasons” at UConn then I would be forced to conclude he had lost his touch.

A “board legend” should be able to defend his position.

Ummm …ok fine . You know you root for Rutgers right ? We have had coaches with “many losing seasons “ that are considered among our best ever…so yeah we should take a flyer on a guy that has won a national championship or two. Bonus points for a guy that was good here too

 

[fluoxetine]

Ummm …ok fine . You know you root for Rutgers right ? We have had coaches with “many losing seasons “ that are considered among our best ever…so yeah we should take a flyer on a guy that has won a national championship or two. Bonus points for a guy that was good here too

No one hires a coach coming off “many losing seasons” even if that guy won some nattys in the distant past. The board legend must be going senile… just like Hurley in this hypothetical.

 

[Plum Street]

No one hires a coach coming off “many losing seasons” even if that guy won some nattys in the distant past. The board legend must be going senile… just like Hurley in this hypothetical.

oh jeez . So you don’t want Hurley under those circumstances?

 

[fluoxetine]

oh jeez . So you don’t want Hurley under those circumstances?

If he goes on a run of “many” losing seasons at UConn of all places then no I wouldn’t want him. The reason we want the actual Hurley is because that has basically 0% chance of happening

 

[Plum Street]

If he goes on a run of “many” losing seasons at UConn of all places then no I wouldn’t want him. The reason we want the actual Hurley is because that has basically 0% chance of happening

Richard pitino had “‘many losing seasons” in a row . In fact, he had 3 losing seasons in a row . He also had losing seasons in 3 of his last 4 at Minnesota . He won a game in the tourney tonight.
We are done here . You have been dismissed by a legend .

 

[fluoxetine]

Richard pitino had “‘many losing seasons” in a row . In fact, he had 3 losing seasons in a row . He also had losing seasons in 3 of his last 4 at Minnesota . He won a game in the tourney tonight.
We are done here . You have been dismissed by a legend .

Good for him. It would have been ridiculous for Rutgers to hire him from Minnesota. I think the legend is washed up.

I decree that is the last word on this subject. Do not reply to this post.

 

[RUDivision]

Hurley was offered the Lakers coaching job last offseason and turned it down to stay at UConn. He’s won back to back national championships at a school with a rich basketball tradition where hoops is the sole focus. And you don’t understand why the idea of him coming here is far fetched?

He didn’t go to LA because it was to far away from home for his wife. She is a jersey girl and wants to be as close as possible to home. Not saying he would come here but LA was turned down because LA isn’t Jersey city

 

[kt124]

we’d have at least been to a final four by now if hobbs gave hurley the 8-year commitment

 

[wheezer]

Two NC?

I’ll take it for 8 years.

Yeah
Maybe a tainted Pitino, or a volatile Hurley for 4or5years

Hold your nose.....and win

 

[KnightTerrors]

I've heard the following:
1. He'll never come here
2. He's too good for here
3. We can't afford him
4. He's too mean, don't want him

Have not heard one, single, solitary retort to the original post, and corresponding premise, of, if the opportunity presented itself, why he wouldn't come here

Because it’s an idiotic question that doesn’t deserve a serious answer.

What better evidence than he already turned down the job a few years ago while at URI.

Now hes coming off back to back nattys and on a 13 game tourney win streak.

I am the biggest die hard RU fan but who do you think we are lol? If Hurley ever leaves UConn it’ll be for the bluest of bluebloods with insanely deep pockets.

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

Because it’s an idiotic question that doesn’t deserve a serious answer.

What better evidence than he already turned down the job a few years ago while at URI.

Now hes coming off back to back nattys and on a 13 game tourney win streak.

I am the biggest die hard RU fan but who do you think we are lol? If Hurley ever leaves UConn it’ll be for the bluest of bluebloods with insanely deep pockets.

He's already turned down the bluest of bluebloods
See Lakers, Los Angeles, they of 16 NBA titles and the glamour of California, of which Danny said No Thanks to

He's a Jersey guy, who's wife is a Jersey girl
He's already been popping off at UConn, and, as I've mentioned, in several conversations w/UConn fans last week at the BET, a lot of people in Stoors aren't happy with his public demeanor

They are happy with his winning though; which, due to that, his antics have been tolerated
And, in truth, if he keeps winning, will continue to be ignored, as long as the production is there

But if it isn't - and with St. Johns rising, and NIL now at the forefront of college athletics (and, with UConn stuck in the Big East, falling 30/40 million year behind their peers like Duke, UNC, Kansas, UCLA, etc.) and even farther behind the SEC (who, in case you've missed it, are taking that extra money each year and pulling away in baseball and basketball respectively), you think a bball crazy university is going to continuing to put up with a guy who's conduct, to put it lightly, is a tad unbecoming to the coach of the "Basketball capital of the World?"

I've listed the reasons why he likely won't come here, and a few why, if things break right, he could
Nobody thought Pitino would leave the NBA
Then leave Kentucky
Then leave Louisville
All to go to... Iona
And now to, of all places... Jamaica, Queens

Will Danny come here?
Probably not
But to say it'll never happen, based off everything I've laid out, and based off him clearly having no desire to leave the east coast, could be, in your words, one of the more "idiotic" things I've heard on here in a long time