My way 2 early P5 job openings.

[vkj91]

Ok, on some level I don't like these threads because we are talking about real people and their jobs. On another, I love talking coaches jobs/candidates as much as X's and O's. I know people think we are a crappy landing spot for a number of reasons(I disagree) but with that being said...here we go.
Pretty much likely to be fired
Iowa State
Virginia
Illinois (open already)

Names always mentioned but still to early to tell
VaTech
Indiana
WSU
Miami
WV

And then there is
RU

IMHO, my guaranteed list doesn't have a job better than RU. In the always mentioned group, I'd put VaTech and Miami as better jobs. WV has great history but comes with limitations in the BIG12.

Who am I missing?

 

[Abro1975]

Purdue will probably have an opening.
UCF (G5) is rumored to have O'Leary stepping down, and remaining only as AD


IMO, Miami, Va Tech, UVa & WVa all are much better jobs. They don't have the hateful media looking for blood, and have better histories.

 

[Wutevah]

Texas.

New Ad (strong and the old one didn't get along but ADs always want their own hires), gigantic expectations and zilch production.

 

[Blitz8RUCrazy]

UVa is not a better job than RU... Come on now... :eek:

 

[vkj91]

Purdue can't afford to fire him this early and he's showing improvement. If they did I would actually take him. He started from scratch there. Texas isn't firing him this year. Yes they are Texas but they would owe him like 20 million. He gets another year or two and the new AD needs to get his feet wet first. UCF isn't P5 and by definition is below us.

 

[vkj91]

UVa is not a better job than RU... Come on now... :eek:

Part of being a better job means the school has money. The fact we have been talking for years about UVA not being bake to fire their coach means at best they are us. Lol

 

[Abro1975]

UVa pays their Football coach, Mike London, more than DOUBLE what Flood makes. Their campus is one of the most beautiful in the USA , cost of living lower, higher rated academically, and other sports that do much , much better. UVa has a 5 Billion endowment, Ru less than 1 billion. It's not even close what the better job is.

UVa is not a better job than RU... Come on now... :eek:

 

[vkj91]

UVa pays their Football coach, Mike London, more than DOUBLE what Flood makes. Their campus is one of the most beautiful in the USA , cost of living lower, higher rated academically, and other sports that do much , much better. It's not even close what the better job is.

Again, Flood gets paid what he could command. Schiano made 2 plus and Cristobol was offers a solid deal. We paid Flood what we needed to. To your point, that's the problem, you pay a guy 2 million and offer 5 years and you are stuck with him for the contract because you can't pay it off.

 

[Abro1975]

Purdue Boilermakers (Big Ten Conference) (2013–present)
2013 Purdue 1–11 0–8 6th (Leaders)
2014 Purdue 3–9 1–7 7th (West)
2015 Purdue 1–2 0–0 (West)
Purdue: 5–22 1–15

Purdue endowment 2.5 Billion, RU less than 1

Purdue can't afford to fire him this early and he's showing improvement. If they did I would actually take him. He started from scratch there. Texas isn't firing him this year. Yes they are Texas but they would owe him like 20 million. He gets another year or two and the new AD needs to get his feet wet first. UCF isn't P5 and by definition is below us.

 

[vkj91]

Purdue Boilermakers (Big Ten Conference) (2013–present)
2013 Purdue 1–11 0–8 6th (Leaders)
2014 Purdue 3–9 1–7 7th (West)
2015 Purdue 1–2 0–0 (West)
Purdue: 5–22 1–15

Purdue endowment 2.5 Billion, RU less than 1

Endowment has nothing to do with what you can "afford". Purdue was horrible and then changed their entire scheme/philosophy. He isn't getting fired this year.

 

[BigEastPhil]

Last week, the OP goes viral because I and others blast Flood as well as predict a PSU blow out - and while you call us "pathetic" - now in 1 weeks' time - you now have the RU job as "possibly" open. Glad you took your delusional blinders off and see RU Football from a rational perspective.

 

[tuffer76]

Vandy may think it's time to try again
Maryland
South Carolina as it's been rumored Spurrier is thinking about retirement and they're playing terribly

 

[vkj91]

Last week, the OP goes viral because I and others blast Flood as well as predict a PSU blow out - and while you call us "pathetic" - now in 1 weeks' time - you now have the RU job as "possibly" open. Glad you took your delusional blinders off and see RU Football from a rational perspective.

I didn't go viral and if you check my posts have been saying I could justify a new coach for two weeks. I still stand behind my prediction that a new hire won't guarantee any additional victories. However it could offer 5-7 years of status quo.

 

[ArminRU]

Gonna be a lot of openings along with us. Hope we can land someone who generates hype in the recruiting land.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Ok, on some level I don't like these threads because we are talking about real people and their jobs. On another, I love talking coaches jobs/candidates as much as X's and O's. I know people think we are a crappy landing spot for a number of reasons(I disagree) but with that being said...here we go.

Going through your list:

Pretty much likely to be fired
Iowa State (not so sure, in 2011 after about a .500 season and upset of then #2 Okie St. he was given a 10yr/20M contract, so still a lot of money left on it. (another perfect example of an AD giving up too much money too soon off just a little success, his salary isn't even the problem to me it's the length of the contract)

Virginia (I think they finally might pull the trigger this year after waiting for the buyout figure to be more palatable)
Illinois (open already)

Names always mentioned but still to early to tell
VaTech (not unless Beamer retires and then likely to go to Foster)
Indiana (I think this is Wilson's make or break year)
WSU (contract again, don't think they'll let him go)
Miami (iffy too depending on contract)
WV (not sure about this one at all, if he wins 7 I think he'll be ok)

Other schools mentioned in the thread.

Vandy's coach is in his 2nd year, he's not going anywhere
Purdue's coach is in his 3rd year and while I think 3 years is the minimum before a coach usually is let go, I don't think Purdue is one of those schools that would pull the trigger after 3. If it's a really atrocious year I suppose it's possible but I think if he just gets 4 or 5 wins he'll be back.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

UVA is miles away a better job than RU right now.

Are you people insane?

 

[RUJohnny99]

Purdue endowment 2.5 Billion, RU less than 1

You realize endowment isn't Latin for "giant pile of cash to give to a football coach", right?

 

[vkj91]

Going through your list:

Pretty much likely to be fired
Iowa State (not so sure, in 2011 after about a .500 season and upset of then #2 Okie St. he was given a 10yr/20M contract, so still a lot of money left on it. (another perfect example of an AD giving up too much money too soon off just a little success, his salary isn't even the problem to me it's the length of the contract)

Virginia (I think they finally might pull the trigger this year after waiting for the buyout figure to be more palatable)
Illinois (open already)

Names always mentioned but still to early to tell
VaTech (not unless Beamer retires and then likely to go to Foster)
Indiana (I think this is Wilson's make or break year)
WSU (contract again, don't think they'll let him go)
Miami (iffy too depending on contract)
WV (not sure about this one at all, if he wins 7 I think he'll be ok)

Other schools mentioned in the thread.

Vandy's coach is in his 2nd year, he's not going anywhere
Purdue's coach is in his 3rd year and while I think 3 years is the minimum before a coach usually is let go, I don't think Purdue is one of those schools that would pull the trigger after 3. If it's a really atrocious year I suppose it's possible but I think if he just gets 4 or 5 wins he'll be back.

Was he really given 10 years? Man that's crazy. I thought he was on the back half of a 5 year deal.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Was he really given 10 years? Man that's crazy. I thought he was on the back half of a 5 year deal.

Yup and I mentioned it at the time too that it was crazy. I thought it was similar to Schiano's in that it was too long. Schiano's wasn't 10 years but I think was extended out to about 2016 somewhere in 2006/2007. So for all intents and purposes the same thing and too long for me. If it's not guaranteed then fine but if it is then that's way too far out to project continued performance.

I always mention financial flexibility. If you give out big money or long duration contracts but your financial flexibility isn't heavily constrained then fine say like Texas giving strong 5M. I thought it was too much but does it matter to them? Not really, same for Weis and ND, didn't stop them from making a move later.

However if you'r putting a severe crimp in making a move if necessary then to me you've made a big mistake. Let the guy go if he wants. It's unlikely you're letting the next Saban or Meyer go. Bielema at Wisconsin, who I still like as a coach, is a perfect example.

http://espn.go.com/college-football...ease-details-paul-rhoads-20-million-extension

 

[RUfinal4]

We may be one of the bottom 5 P5 football jobs.

- lack of funds (not earning P5 money yet)
- bad tradition (until 2005 we were one of the worst teams in all 1A)
- tough media environment (not many homers in the media with soft pieces)
- situated in a Pro sports environment (Yankees, Mets, Jets, Giants, Eagles, etc... are all more popular)
- a lot of NJ does not identify with RU because they went elsewhere or grew up out of state

an example of the pro buzz:
in the past when we had a Thursday night opener before Labor Day when the Jets and Giants both had pre-season games and the Mets / Yanks had games you would see many of the casual fans preferring to watch the preseason games or baseball over Rutgers in group settings (ie. bars, parties, etc...)