If any non-Stanford affiliated trainers are on site with McCaffrey, I'm sure that is already who is paying for them.
New trend of players sitting out bowl games to prepare for the NFL draft
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Very un-Brian Leonard-like.
But hey, the colleges and NCAA agree to play big college games off-campus at pro venues.
Coaches leave before the season is over.
It's all about the money.
What goes around comes around.
Curious, do bowl games or athletics department pay for any kind of injury insurance for players with obvious pro prospects?
But hey, the colleges and NCAA agree to play big college games off-campus at pro venues.
Coaches leave before the season is over.
It's all about the money.
What goes around comes around.
Curious, do bowl games or athletics department pay for any kind of injury insurance for players with obvious pro prospects?
Well as you know I do have a dog. But how is the LeBron comparison ridiculous? The games are exhibition games, not championship games. LeBron is paid millions to play a regular season games where people pay big money far in advance to see him play. But for the good of his long term health he takes a night off. Yet we kill the kids who are preparing for the biggest day of their future.
If only the NFL didn't just rely on the free minor league system that the NCAA is so happy to provide them.
Maybe the LOI needs to stipulate in writing that the scholarship is for all games played by the University including bowl games. If the student does not play in the bowl game( not including injury or family issue) then they can choose to pay the school 10% back of the annual scholarship. If you get the scholarship you need to play in all games, not just the ones you decide to play. Very bad precedent. The problem is that these players will be going through the motions if they don't want to play, so this is a tougher issue than meets the eye.
Lebron's long term health helps the team first and foremost, sitting out regular season after your spot has been secured in the playoffs is the norm. Not even remotely related to quitting on your team.
Do not agree with folks quitting - just explaining the over proliferation of the bowl system - not in playoff is the remaing bowl system equivalent to the NIT?
And what about injured kids? Do they pay back too? kids that leave a year early, do they pay for the years they didn't use??
I'm surprised this many people are on the college's side here. College football is a really raw deal for guys of Fournette and Mcaffrey's caliber. I'm assuming LSU and Stanford have made a boatload of money from jersey sales, poster boards, billboards and the likes. I'm sure Stanford can forgive one of their best players EVER for concluding that the freaking sun bowl is not worth the risk. Fournette himself mentioned that he is only about 85% healthy.
Arn't these kids taking care of their long term health?? And again they are passing on an exhibition game. Lebron is missing a game that counts in the schedule. With the coaches approval he did quit the team for that game.
I'm surprised at your level of surprise that this many people on a message board full of nutjobs with an unhealthy obsession over HS football recruiting are on the college's side and not the individual's.
Beyond the top 4 teams that are in the playoffs yes they are all exhibition games. Live content for TV. period. And I doubt any of their teammates think its wrong either.
I guess you've forgotten what playing ASU in a meaningless exhibition game meant to our program and players at the time.
Anyway, if this is what we've evolved into, i'll gladly give my seats up, I won't remotely support that mindset.
Just me.
Todd Herman can bail on his entire team to get a new job and protect himself. Brian Kelly left before a BCS Bowl game. Jaylon Smith almost had his career ended in a bowl game. They finished the season. If it wasn't for that stupid rule requiring them to be in school for 2 3 years a lot of them would be in the NFL already.
LSU and Stanford have a much bigger history and don't need a 2 rate bowl game to boost moral of the fanbase.
"Me"-lennials. . . . Facebook, Twitter, SnapChat. . . we're feeding the beasts. God help us. Now get off my lawn.
I hope it starts a new trend of NFL hopefuls electing to skip any bowl games other than the the final four. Great for college football!
Enjoy
Let me explain the problem with this whole argument. This issue is, if you **** up college football, the NFL loses it's free feeder system, and the kids no longer have a platform for the pros.
This is the flaw. College football is a minor league sport. Now, tell me what other minor league sports have billion dollar TV contracts. None of them do. It's just college football. Ok, so here is where the problem comes in. College football isn't popular on the strength of the sport itself. It's popular because you have people who have ties to individual schools (alumni, employees, family, etc.). In other words, most people aren't fans of a team simply because they want to pull for a team. They are fans because they went to the school, worked at the school, live near the school, or whatever.
So, here's the problem with that. If you have all these players sitting out games, and their schools start losing these games, fans are going to lose interest. Again, it's not like the NFL, where people are fans because it's the best football league on the planet. They are fans because they have a connection to their individual schools. So, you have guys sitting out games. Team loses games. Fans start to lose interest. Ratings go down. TV contracts go down. Keep in mind, attendance is declining. Younger kids aren't as passionate about college sports as pervious generations. You start taking the attitude that college football is too big to fail, you will find out how inaccurate this attitude is.
By that reasoning, every regular season game after your second loss is an exhibition game.
Also, isn't the decision to sit LeBron James the coach's decision: "I do whatever my coach asks me to do," James said. "My coach wants me to rest, I don't buck my coach. That's what he wants and that's what we gonna do. http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/12/lebron_james_wont_buck_tyronn.html
The players aren't indentured servants. If they want to quit their team, they certainly have the right to quit their team, just like I have a right to quit my job, and any other college student has the right to quit school. But quitting certainly has repercussions; if I quit my job, I don't get paid; if a student quits school, he doesn't get his degree; and if a player quits the team maybe they lose their athletic scholarship. But those are certainly choices anyone is free to make.
However, I'm not sure quitting a team and skipping a bowl game is a smart move for someone with NFL aspirations. I would think that being perceived as a quitter or someone who is not a team player could hurt your stock with a lot of NFL teams. NFL teams don't want to be stuck with players who aren't "worth the trouble", and they don't want to be stuck with the salary cap problems of an overpaid player who they have to cut.
I think a lot of teams will think twice about a player who bails on their college team. If those players go later in the draft, especially if they drop a round or two, it will cost that player a lot of money.
However, I'm not sure quitting a team and skipping a bowl game is a smart move for someone with NFL aspirations. I would think that being perceived as a quitter or someone who is not a team player could hurt your stock with a lot of NFL teams. NFL teams don't want to be stuck with players who aren't "worth the trouble", and they don't want to be stuck with the salary cap problems of an overpaid player who they have to cut.
I think a lot of teams will think twice about a player who bails on their college team. If those players go later in the draft, especially if they drop a round or two, it will cost that player a lot of money.
If it was me I'd sit. Call it selfish all you want I wouldn't care. These players worked way too hard over their life to play in a meaningless bowl game that has very little benefit to them. They get hurt and those millions could be gone. I'd rather play for my family and their future instead of a school that benefits greatly$$$ from that player. They've played throughout the season to prove they can play in the nfl. I doubt the bowl game has any impact on where they place in the draft
It won't. The NFL throws players players away like coffee cups. They know the players are looking after themselves as well. Also, in the NFL, if you don't play, you don't get paid.
The NFL probably prefers these guys don't play in these scrimmages.
It's okay for every other person to think about themselves when it comes to college football except the players. Greg Schiano can abruptly leave the team right before national signing day, that's cool. A player sits out the sun bowl to focus on the draft and he's a scumbag.
I honestly don't mean this to disparage your viewpoint, but IMO the teams who perennially make smart decisions will likely be unaffected by this. Those teams which stockpile draft picks when the value is there and also go value hunting in free agency. The teams who perennially make dumb decisions will allow this "hot take" type stuff to enter their thinking on draft day instead of going with their normal evaluation. The same teams who trade away solid draft picks for aging vets, spend way too much guaranteed money in FA, or use a premium 2nd round pick on a project QB when the team is otherwise built to win now.
Do you honestly think Bill Belichick, who quit on the Jets after one day BTW, would pass on McCaffrey if he felt he was a more durable version of Dion Lewis who could be the key to keeping Brady's offense humming for another couple years?
If Robert Martin is having a great injury free season next year under Kill, be aware it's in his best interest to quit the team after our second loss and prepare himself for the NFL draft.
This is in his own best interest, even juniors thinking of declaring should adhere to this new trend.
Why not, aren't we're talking their future means of employment and lots of money?
I hope our depth is deep!
This is in his own best interest, even juniors thinking of declaring should adhere to this new trend.
Why not, aren't we're talking their future means of employment and lots of money?
I hope our depth is deep!
If I'm a teammate I'd go and bang their gf's. Right in front of them. Then I'd lose their digits. You play to your last game, period, you don't pull this crap on your friends.
If McCaffrey has been sitting out since Stanford's second loss on October 8th, why are we first hearing about this now?
Oh wait.
Keep changing the argument, fellas. It's obviously the sign of a strong stance.
This trend is in its infancy, by what logic would he continue playing and risk serious injury
