It is not exploitation.
If you have any integrity you do not quit on your TEAMMATES.
Unless already injured you play the game. Period.
New trend of players sitting out bowl games to prepare for the NFL draft
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It is not exploitation.
If you have any integrity you do not quit on your TEAMMATES.
Unless already injured you play the game. Period.
I like the expression "meaningless game". For RU and countless other teams most of the season is "meaningless" once you lose three games. What's left are 'minor' bowls. At what point does it become acceptable to not play for fear of an injury that might' damage your pro chances? Nobody forced you to sign a loi, but once you accept the scholarship there's a quid pro quo. Skip a game(s) leave early, fine. pay back the value of your scholarship.I'm sure there are any number of students and their parents who would be willing to go through four years of practice/games for a free ride. No doubt, in some cases the school is making money from a player/teams' success, but so what. That money can be used to benefit the university community as a whole You don't have to accept the scholarship, apply like thousands of other students., and let your grades and test scores etc. determine whether or not you're admitted..
Should five star high school recruits sit out the rest of their senior season as soon as their team is out of the running for their state or division championship? An injury in the last game of a 3-7 season could cost them a scholarship at a top college program and hurt their chances at a professional career.
The kid from Stanford could easily be receiving guidance from some slime ball agent.
If he's a competitor and a good teammate, even after putting millions in his bank account he may have a retrospect regret for abandoning his brothers.
Bowl games are not exhibition games. Teams play for bowl games. It is a terrible decision not to play.
I'm guessing the overwhelming majority of these players teammates support the decision. I think this board would be just fine if one of RUs players elected to sit out a bowl game.
Fournette isn't 100% so I understand him sititng out. McCaffrey's dad was in the NFL for a long time and very successful, so I think his family knows what he's doing.
I would be appalled, and if it was condoned by the staff I'd never step foot in Rutgers Stadium again.
If the player was compromised or injured, I'd understand
I like to see the players turn the table a little. Tom Herman booked it as soon as the regular season ended for personal gain, how is this any different? I like the bowl season because it rewards the players with gifts and a mini vacation and the coaches are given extra practices. With that said, 90% of these games are meaningless exhibitions.
If bowl games, even minor bowls, are just exhibitions why are almost all of the players excited when they get a bid?
The argument that bowl games are meaningless exhibition games can also be used to describe most regular season games as meaningless exhibition games. (You can even stretch the point, and claim that every single game, including the national championship game, is really a meaningless exhibition game... after all, they're all just games and have no real meaning.)
(I used to be a traditionalist. Believed in the purity of college football. For that now: I go watch Harvard every once in a while)
The AD gets to sip champagne in the box during the game making a real nice salary.
The head coach baked in bonus money in his contract, in making the bowl at 6-6.
The assistant coaches are protecting themselves constantly talking to other coaches around the country for their next job, while "preparing for the exhibition game in 4 weeks after the last regular season game." Or they have already jumped ship.
The kid gets to play in a exhibition game that is more meaningless now (playoffs).
Kids, protect yourselves. Everyone else in the world is.
Yeah, I was originally agreeing with the "play, you damn ingrates" sentiment, but I find Moz's arguments more persuasive.
Have much more of a problem with the chump coaches who just ditch their team before the bowl game and the system that allows it. Always thought that was complete, contemptible horse shite and was actually glad that Ash stuck with OSU through its bowl.
With that in mind, I really don't give a sh#t if the lowest compensated members within that crooked framework do the same. To fight it just seems like more cfb "bullying the little guy while letting the big guy get away with murder." Want a system that doesn't allow that? Fix it from the top down, not bottom up.
Everyone should do what they want. There is no honor among thieves, and these people (universities, coaches, players, recruits, media, etc.) are all exploiting one party or another for their own business interest. What does Fournette owe anybody? LSU probably did a lot of dirty stuff to get him to go there over the 50 other schools that were willing to do any deplorable thing to get him. I see no purity at any level of this.
LOL
As I said, I'd never watch another game of a head coach or school that supports a decision like this
Why, are you expecting our NFL prospects to quit on their teammates before we play in the Rose Bowl?
I don't support Stanford,
Why be a fan, I don't get it?
Is this the mindset of our fanbase?
Are most of you ok with our best players skipping bowl games if they want?
The team unanimously approved. They know the stakes. They know what happened to Jaylon Smith.
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Yes, I am. Until they change the nature of LOIs (which they won't because the NLRB will take the NCAA to task)
The NCAA offers zero long term compensation for injuries that happen on the field. Any RB with a chance at the league would be foolish not consider skipping the effing Sun Bowl.
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Yes, in public, of course they "approved." I would too. Then I'd tell him to **** off.
Lol this. Its a dirty game, and its all about the money, we cant hide from the truth. This "academics" charade we continue to run with really has me cracking up. i hate that its like this but you cant watch what schools coaches admins etc are doing on the backs of players AND each other and shrug it off as "business decisions" while freaking out & demanding punishment when an nfl prospect makes a business decision as well.
I really dont like it but hey... if youre gonna be mad at someone about all this then it damn sure isnt the players. Christian is simply playing by the rules of this twisted game.
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If it was me, I'd want to play. That being said, I could understand if one of my teammates chose not to. People are saying that the players made a choice to take an athletic scholarship to play for their schools. Yes, that's technically true, but if you want to pursue a career as a professional football player, then really there's no other choice. This is the system that the NFL and colleges have set up, and kids who want to go pro are pretty much forced to go this route to have a shot. However, not everyone is cut out for college, and it funnels some individuals into a situation that they're really not set to thrive in. And it's a system where everyone else involved except that kid and his teammates are making ridiculous amounts of money. And now that a player decides that he needs to look out for his own best interest when nobody else in the system (the NFL owners, the colleges, the bowls, the coaches) does, he gets called out for being selfish? smh
This Jaylon Smith?
He told USA TODAY Sports Tom Pelissero in April that he never regretted playing in the game:
Perhaps that helps explain Smith’s answer when he’s asked whether he’d still play in that bowl game, even knowing he’d get hurt, tossing everything he has worked for into doubt.
“I would play it again. And I don’t just mean that figuratively. Like I truly believe that,” Smith said. “It’s just not in me to give up, even if it was for the benefit of me.
“This could be for the benefit of me. I’m becoming a better man.”
If God told him the night before he is going to mess up his leg real bad and cost himself millions, he is not suiting up the next day for that bowl. No way, no how. We are not talking about the National Championship. We are talking about some exhibition game where the power brokers including the coaches and their bowl bonuses, are making boat loads of money.
All you guys are living in some "The good ole days," "You owe it to your team and school," message board fantasy land.
If you are stating here on this board, you would tell your son to play in some meaningless bowl 3 months before being handed a 1st round pick and a $20,000,000 check, you are lying to yourself and us here on this board.
no, I'd buy the insurance. my son would make his own decision but selling your character and soul to chase the $ is not something I would have been teaching him while growing up.
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BS...every projected high round pick would sit out using your logic.
My dad went opposite of your logic for me in a very similar situation, the money was relative back then.
Oh yea, there's not a chance in hell I'd advise my son to abandon his teammates, even if they were completely understanding
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So what they understand, who cares...if you don't think they'd rather have him on the field I have a bridge to sell you
When you are playing for men like him, you are take the risk?
Or how about this guy - who made his CB get up in front of the team in the locker room prior to the BOWL kickoff and state he was leaving for the NFL early - ONLY FOR THE GUY TO JUMP ON A PRIVATE JET TO ACCEPT THE MARYLAND JOB 4HRS LATER WITHOUT TELLING ANYONE!
Your teammates aren't cutting you a check for $20,00,000 if you mess up your knee in the Beef O'Brady Bowl.
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Whatever dude, QUITWhen you are playing for men like him, you are take the risk?
Or how about this guy - who made his CB get up in front of the team in the locker room prior to the BOWL kickoff and state he was leaving for the NFL early - ONLY FOR THE GUY TO JUMP ON A PRIVATE JET TO ACCEPT THE MARYLAND JOB 4HRS LATER WITHOUT TELLING ANYONE!
Your teammates aren't cutting you a check for $20,00,000 if you mess up your knee in the Beer O'Brady Bowl.
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