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Aguilar - F - beat this opponent 14-1 last year -
Alvarez - A- very good - look a little tired - good to get major
Rivera - A -Great job
Van Brill - B - lost to # 1 kid - has looked competitive in matches vs, ranked kids
Kanniard - A -major step forward - kept pushing
Donner -D+ - held ranked kid to a decision
Grello - F - OSU kid looked much stronger - Joe didn't shoot
Poz - A+ - today's Rutgers star
Janzer - C- - needs to be more aggressive and shoot
Colucci - C - undersized and seemed passive
Shawver - B+ aggressive - deserve a chance to start
Metzler - considering opponent - expected result
Angelo - B - average opponent - showed more mat awareness
Santos - C+ - had expected results
Turley - A - Our first Pin - Give the kid a start at 174
McDermott - B - Hope gets more action - Traub was a good test

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I would give Kannaird a B.
Only because his opponent beat Santos in OT later in the day.
A huge step up with the win and I was happy to see him attack.

Joe Grello a D
His opponent was in the top 3 in Flo rankings (A F is kind of harsh)
I get it, you are frustrated.
What did you expect in that match?
After 5 years, you should know what to expect from Joe.
He will most likely qualify for the big dance but not make much noise there.
Borderline top 20 type of wrestler.

Alvarez and Rivera - B's
They did what I expect them to do
(A tech or Pin, I give them a B)

I am most excited about Poz Win. That first takedown was a thing of beauty.


Note:
I am not trying to slam Alvarez or Rivera.
I expect dominate performances.
 
Racpack said:
Based on Competition

Aguilar - F - beat this opponent 14-1 last year -
Alvarez - A- very good - look a little tired - good to get major
Rivera - A -Great job
Van Brill - B - lost to # 1 kid - has looked competitive in matches vs, ranked kids
Kanniard - A -major step forward - kept pushing
Donner -D+ - held ranked kid to a decision
Grello - F - OSU kid looked much stronger - Joe didn't shoot
Poz - A+ - today's Rutgers star
Janzer - C- - needs to be more aggressive and shoot
Colucci - C - undersized and seemed passive
Shawver - B+ aggressive - deserve a chance to start
Metzler - considering opponent - expected result
Angelo - B - average opponent - showed more mat awareness
Santos - C+ - had expected results
Turley - A - Our first Pin - Give the kid a start at 174
McDermott - B - Hope gets more action - Traub was a good test

Coaching - need other to chime in -
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Pretty fair and accurate from my viewpoint although I'd give Donner a tick or two up. He stalled quick and was hammered early, yet kept to a decision. Sometimes you need to do your job to help the team get a victory. Donner, MVB and Collucci exceeded what was expected. Aguilar and Janzer underperformed. Poz, awesome win against a Jordan. Net result is a loss. Story of our lives as a Rutgers fan.
 
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Time to move on from Aguilar if there are other things going on. He gets in on a ton of shots but can't finish and his scrambling and reattacks are very weak now. He's definitely regressed and it's likely due to those rumors which plagued some others many years ago...

Nice to see Alvarez get a major, but he looked very sluggish on his feet for most of the match, except for when he needed a TD to secure the major, so that was good to see him secure. Can't tell if it's injuries and/or weight...

Rivera is a stud. His footwork and positioning are great. You can definitely tell he's not happy with being unable to rag doll and run through guys like he may have down a weight or 2. He'll adjust and get stronger.

MVB is tough but I still can't understand how his primary O is a merkle.

Kanniard looks good and slow or off balance at the same time. I can't explain it lol.

Donner was Donner. What are people expecting from someone that wasn't an elite recruit? He's working hard but that doesn't matter much against the better wrestlers. He was overmatched.

Grello was Grello but looked even more tentative or hesitant as his knee seems to still be bothering him or he's not confident it won't get reinjured. I said it in HS and every year in college, he has limited O on his feet and he was all top. If he can't turn someone then it'll be tough to win.

Great win by Poz. He's got a huge arsenal on his feet.

Many on here jumped all over me when I questioned Janzer's O and attack on his feet in HS and said that won't translate to success in college. I accept your apologies. We've seen it for over a year now. He works extremely hard but has to develop more than the underhook and look to score with other setups and attacks.

Colucci wrestled the same as always. Close match. Not surprised by the result. Sometimes he pulls those out.
 
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Time to move on from Aguilar if there are other things going on. He gets in on a ton of shots but can't finish and his scrambling and reattacks are very weak now. He's definitely regressed and it's likely due to those rumors which plagued some others many years ago...

Leonard, if the rumors you reference are true, it is on the coach. I thought those activities were eliminated. Hope you are wrong.
 
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We are right there with the best in the country and need to get over the hump like we did with AA’s and National Champs. Frustrating for us fans and the coaches and kids as well.
 
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Racpack said:
Time to move on from Aguilar if there are other things going on. He gets in on a ton of shots but can't finish and his scrambling and reattacks are very weak now. He's definitely regressed and it's likely due to those rumors which plagued some others many years ago...

Leonard, if the rumors you reference are true, it is on the coach. I thought those activities were eliminated. Hope you are wrong.
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Stop. Have you ever coached kids or do you have kids? Cael, Ryan and Brands have all had kids like that and couldn't, as have many others.
 
wngarbarini said:
We are right there with the best in the country and need to get over the hump like we did with AA’s and National Champs. Frustrating for us fans and the coaches and kids as well.
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Bill I disagree. We are not with the best in the country. The best in the country up and down the lineup, constantly attack/ re attack and are aggressive and steady in all positions. We also have the same unresolved issues every year, with kids who were dynamic the first year, and then somehow fall off the wagon and regress. It's been the defining culture since goody stepped foot on the banks . We've had some shining stars, but not a constant like the top five programs. I also feel like good deal is a great coach, but more of a facilitator and a referee. I also don't think he puts his foot down as much as he should ala compromising job security
 
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RUCrackers said:
Bill I disagree. We are not with the best in the country. The best in the country up and down the lineup, constantly attack/ re attack and are aggressive and steady in all positions. We also have the same unresolved issues every year, with kids who were dynamic the first year, and then somehow fall off the wagon and regress. It's been the defining culture since goody stepped foot on the banks . We've had some shining stars, but not a constant like the top five programs. I also feel like good deal is a great coach, but more of a facilitator and a referee. I also don't think he puts his foot down as much as he should ala compromising job security
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Can't disagree more about putting his foot down and compromising HIS JOB SECURITY...Your always going to have a guy or 2 do their own thing, they are college kids and Goodale does the best he can. ..Every school out there deals with the same issues...You just can't follow these guys 24 hours a day. His guys never get in trouble and Team GPA is very good yearly...He is immediately notified if a wrestler misses a class and he deals with that right of way...As for job security the Administration loves him, He was the NCAA Tournament Coach of the Year just 2 years ago and puts fans in the seats and has his teams in the top 20...Remember Pritzlaff is the Associate Head Coach and has just as much say of how the Program is run and dealings with every wrestler...Are there things that can get better. yes but what Program doesn't but knowing Goodale the guy lives his life with so much passion of having the best team with guys he can bring Home to his house and is proud of. His job security is not an issue and never will be until he decides to move on.
 
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Can't disagree more about putting his foot down and compromising HIS JOB SECURITY...Your always going to have a guy or 2 do their own thing, they are college kids and Goodale does the best he can. ..Every school out there deals with the same issues...You just can't follow these guys 24 hours a day. His guys never get in trouble and Team GPA is very good yearly...He is immediately notified if a wrestler misses a class and he deals with that right of way...As for job security the Administration loves him, He was the NCAA Tournament Coach of the Year just 2 years ago and puts fans in the seats and has his teams in the top 20...Remember Pritzlaff is the Associate Head Coach and has just as much say of how the Program is run and dealings with every wrestler...Are there things that can get better. yes but what Program doesn't but knowing Goodale the guy lives his life with so much passion of having the best team with guys he can bring Home to his house and is proud of. His job security is not an issue and never will be until he decides to move on.
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geez are you Mrs Goodale? I think a healthy debate, is something we can all agree upon. I should have worded it differently. I do agree he is loved by the administration, and has done far beyond what anyone would have expected. What I was trying to say was, is that if he was a little bit tougher, AKA Tom brands tough, we may have that culture instilled in our wrestlers.
 
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Just a heads up Aguilar is not smoking pot...He's been off the mat for a while preseason and spent Christmas in Cali...Yes. He definitely needs some work but he's carrying a 3.2 GPA and I think he will get better as season goes on,...Covid has been tough on is training
 
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geez are you Mrs Goodale? I think a healthy debate, is something we can all agree upon. I should have worded it differently. I do agree he is loved by the administration, and has done far beyond what anyone would have expected. What I was trying to say was, is that if he was a little bit tougher, AKA Tom brands tough, we may have that culture instilled in our wrestlers.
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No I'm not Goodales Mom who is a great lady and fan...Iowa has such a different infrastructure and so much History and money...You want to compare the #1 team/Program in USA to Rutgers right now? Are you also pissed our football team is not on same level as Saban and Alabama?
 
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Janzer gets a takedown and it's probably the biggest Win in RU Wrestling History...Were right there as WNG said! Not Iowa or Penn State yet who have great History and tons of extra $$
 
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LetsGoRUwrestling said:
No I'm not Goodales Mom who is a great lady and fan...Iowa has such a different infrastructure and so much History and money...You want to compare the #1 team/Program in USA to Rutgers right now? Are you also pissed our football team is not on same level as Saban and Alabama?
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Well, you're certainly acting like somebody who's pretty close to him, that's for sure. A very defensive tone if I don't say so myself. At the very least you're a parent of one of the wrestlers. Casual, and even die hard fans don't react like that. Regardless, I've heard on numerous occasions that Aguilar smokes weed. I never wanted to mention that because of a backlash. Also there have been characters on here in the past who have created a lot of trouble oh, and I don't want to be one of them. Lo and behold, others have mentioned Aguilar's doobie problem. I hope for his sake oh, it is not true. He's one of my favorite wrestlers. But as The Story Goes, we get another high-level recruit AKA Mario Mason/ Scott Winston/ Stephan Glasgow/ Andrew Campolatano, and we spend the next year-and-a-half going back and forth, arguing about a wrestler that was finished mentally the month we noticed it. It ends up becoming wasted time and pointless arguments. Hence the reason why I said that Goodale should tighten up on these kids, like a brands does. There is no way a Tom or Terry Brands would tolerated the behavior of someone like Stephan Glasgow.
 
Glasgow has been basically suspended for the last 2 years. What are you even talking about?
 
RUCrackers said:
Well, you're certainly acting like somebody who's pretty close to him, that's for sure. A very defensive tone if I don't say so myself. At the very least you're a parent of one of the wrestlers. Casual, and even die hard fans don't react like that. Regardless, I've heard on numerous occasions that Aguilar smokes weed. I never wanted to mention that because of a backlash. Also there have been characters on here in the past who have created a lot of trouble oh, and I don't want to be one of them. Lo and behold, others have mentioned Aguilar's doobie problem. I hope for his sake oh, it is not true. He's one of my favorite wrestlers. But as The Story Goes, we get another high-level recruit AKA Mario Mason/ Scott Winston/ Stephan Glasgow/ Andrew Campolatano, and we spend the next year-and-a-half going back and forth, arguing about a wrestler that was finished mentally the month we noticed it. It ends up becoming wasted time and pointless arguments. Hence the reason why I said that Goodale should tighten up on these kids, like a brands does. There is no way a Tom or Terry Brands would tolerated the behavior of someone like Stephan Glasgow.
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I'll be honest, nothing good will come from a post like this...
 
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...The best in the country up and down the lineup, constantly attack/ re attack and are aggressive and steady in all positions. We also have the same unresolved issues every year, with kids who were dynamic the first year, and then somehow fall off the wagon and regress. It's been the defining culture since goody stepped foot on the banks . We've had some shining stars, but not a constant like the top five programs. I also feel like good deal is a great coach, but more of a facilitator and a referee. I also don't think he puts his foot down as much as he should...
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I'm glad not to be the only one questioning.
 
RUCrackers said:
Well, you're certainly acting like somebody who's pretty close to him, that's for sure. A very defensive tone if I don't say so myself. At the very least you're a parent of one of the wrestlers. Casual, and even die hard fans don't react like that. Regardless, I've heard on numerous occasions that Aguilar smokes weed. I never wanted to mention that because of a backlash. Also there have been characters on here in the past who have created a lot of trouble oh, and I don't want to be one of them. Lo and behold, others have mentioned Aguilar's doobie problem. I hope for his sake oh, it is not true. He's one of my favorite wrestlers. But as The Story Goes, we get another high-level recruit AKA Mario Mason/ Scott Winston/ Stephan Glasgow/ Andrew Campolatano, and we spend the next year-and-a-half going back and forth, arguing about a wrestler that was finished mentally the month we noticed it. It ends up becoming wasted time and pointless arguments. Hence the reason why I said that Goodale should tighten up on these kids, like a brands does. There is no way a Tom or Terry Brands would tolerated the behavior of someone like Stephan Glasgow.
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You obviously have an ax to grind with Goodale and no I’m not his father or brother either ..these kids are grown men who if they are doing what I’ve heard they are doing then that's on them .the coach can only do so much ...it’s not a team issue as far as I know but I have heard the same thing about both guys mentioned ...I know for a fact it’s why Nic did not wrestle in last years first dual because he and Correnti were punished that day and we all assume SG had some issues as well ...shame we wasted so much money on him with nothing gotten in return ...as far as Goodale ...I look at where we were before him ...definitely has security as far as I’m concerned
 
LetsGoRUwrestling said:
Just a heads up Aguilar is not smoking pot...He's been off the mat for a while preseason and spent Christmas in Cali...Yes. He definitely needs some work but he's carrying a 3.2 GPA and I think he will get better as season goes on,...Covid has been tough on is training
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Needs some work? He got pinned in a minute by a true freshman and lost 10-4 to a kid he beat 14-3 last year. That's a helluva lot more than needs some work. That's a, what in the hell just happened.
 
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Bill I disagree. We are not with the best in the country. The best in the country up and down the lineup, constantly attack/ re attack and are aggressive and steady in all positions. We also have the same unresolved issues every year, with kids who were dynamic the first year, and then somehow fall off the wagon and regress. It's been the defining culture since goody stepped foot on the banks . We've had some shining stars, but not a constant like the top five programs. I also feel like good deal is a great coach, but more of a facilitator and a referee. I also don't think he puts his foot down as much as he should ala compromising job security
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RUCrackers said:
Well, you're certainly acting like somebody who's pretty close to him, that's for sure. A very defensive tone if I don't say so myself. At the very least you're a parent of one of the wrestlers. Casual, and even die hard fans don't react like that. Regardless, I've heard on numerous occasions that Aguilar smokes weed. I never wanted to mention that because of a backlash. Also there have been characters on here in the past who have created a lot of trouble oh, and I don't want to be one of them. Lo and behold, others have mentioned Aguilar's doobie problem. I hope for his sake oh, it is not true. He's one of my favorite wrestlers. But as The Story Goes, we get another high-level recruit AKA Mario Mason/ Scott Winston/ Stephan Glasgow/ Andrew Campolatano, and we spend the next year-and-a-half going back and forth, arguing about a wrestler that was finished mentally the month we noticed it. It ends up becoming wasted time and pointless arguments. Hence the reason why I said that Goodale should tighten up on these kids, like a brands does. There is no way a Tom or Terry Brands would tolerated the behavior of someone like Stephan Glasgow.
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PessimisticallyHopefulPragmatist said:
I'm glad not to be the only one questioning.
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Just who do you think I am? If you want to know , I'm a sophomore at Rutgers. I'm from South Jersey, and had a mediocre wrestling career. Not much to it. Is this some kind of fantasy detective game? I have no axe to grind with goodale. I don't even know the guy. As an outside observer and fan, I'm just stating the obvious.
 
SCNJ said:
Glasgow has been basically suspended for the last 2 years. What are you even talking about?
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But just last year they were talking about bringing him back what are you talkin about? How is that a 2-year suspension?
 
RUCrackers said:
But just last year they were talking about bringing him back what are you talkin about? How is that a 2-year suspension?
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What do you want him to do? Throw him off the team?

Unless they’re committing acts of violence, shame on any coach who throws a kid off a team during their low points. Glasgow signed up for a family treatment by committing to the program. Goodale is reciprocating that. He’s being tough on him but not giving up on him. That’s what a good coach does for his athletes.
 
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C'mon we know RUCrackers is that same guy who got banned multiple times on this board. The same guy with that sh!tliner quote or whatever it was that is relentlessly mocked to this day everywhere. The same guy who threatened to fight some people on this board before.
 
cyrock3 said:
C'mon we know RUCrackers is that same guy who got banned multiple times on this board. The same guy with that sh!tliner quote or whatever it was that is relentlessly mocked to this day everywhere. The same guy who threatened to fight some people on this board before.
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If you say so. Good luck with that. The only thing I'm fighting with right now it's a pre calculus quiz.
 
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Thanks for joining the discussion. It's great to have some young blood and hear different opinions. How is school going during COVID?
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Very difficult. But also convenient because most of my professors post daily itinerary on Rutgers canvas. The only thing that throws us all off is that when they add up grades it shows one number but doesn't show that it's a full percentage grade. So if you think you have an 88 it's really more like an 81 because tests count more than quizzes. What I'm also finding out is that a lot of the level 100 classes are a lot more difficult than the level 400 classes. I had an introduction to geology last semester and it was brutal, but took a level 400 engineering class and it was a breeze. Also some departments are more accommodating than others. I took an agricultural elective class over at seb's, and the department over there was very accommodating, as opposed to the accounting department who could care less. I'm also seeing it becoming a lot harder to get admitted to Rutgers. The running joke for years at my high school was that it was a safety School. That it was for the aspiring Ivy Leaguers, if they got rejected. Now it's becoming a school of choice.
 
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Very difficult. But also convenient because most of my professors post daily itinerary on Rutgers canvas. The only thing that throws us all off is that when they add up grades it shows one number but doesn't show that it's a full percentage grade. So if you think you have an 88 it's really more like an 81 because tests count more than quizzes. What I'm also finding out is that a lot of the level 100 classes are a lot more difficult than the level 400 classes. I had an introduction to geology last semester and it was brutal, but took a level 400 engineering class and it was a breeze. Also some departments are more accommodating than others. I took an agricultural elective class over at seb's, and the department over there was very accommodating, as opposed to the accounting department who could care less. I'm also seeing it becoming a lot harder to get admitted to Rutgers. The running joke for years at my high school was that it was a safety School. That it was for the aspiring Ivy Leaguers, if they got rejected. Now it's becoming a school of choice.
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I graduated from RU with an engineering degree and it's not possible for a sophomore who is currently taking pre-calculus to already have taken a 400 level engineering class. Senior level engineering courses require four semesters of calculus (plus other courses) as pre-requisites.
 
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I graduated from RU with an engineering degree and it's not possible for a sophomore who is currently taking pre-calculus to already have taken a 400 level engineering class. Senior level engineering courses require four semesters of calculus (plus other courses) I'm not an engineering major. I took the course as an elective. And I'm definitely takin precalculus, because I took college algebra at a county college first, had to get Department approval for that course to transfer in, regardless if it came in from NJ transfer. And you certainly can take level 400 courses after your freshman year.
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Needs some work? He got pinned in a minute by a true freshman and lost 10-4 to a kid he beat 14-3 last year. That's a helluva lot more than needs some work. That's a, what in the hell just happened.
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I get what your saying but let the season play out...Not going to put the guy on the shelf after just 2 bouts...Hopefully he can get it together..Things wont be any easier this weekend with Schroder and McKee both top 10 guys
 
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RUCrackers said:
I'm not an engineering major. I took the course as an elective. And I'm definitely takin precalculus, because I took college algebra at a county college first, had to get Department approval for that course to transfer in, regardless if it came in from NJ transfer. And you certainly can take level 400 courses after your freshman year.
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Leonard23 said:
Stop. Have you ever coached kids or do you have kids? Cael, Ryan and Brands have all had kids like that and couldn't, as have many others.
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Mother Leonard: You stop making excuses. There are valid concerns that only a few people are willing to recognize and they should be able to express with getting shut down. Perhaps you should be a censor specialist at Twitter or facebook.
 
cyrock3 said:
C'mon we know RUCrackers is that same guy who got banned multiple times on this board. The same guy with that sh!tliner quote or whatever it was that is relentlessly mocked to this day everywhere. The same guy who threatened to fight some people on this board before.
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RU Creedo lol
 
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