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OT: #1 NJ to Syracuse
- Thread starter OldManRiver
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Whats ridiculous?
- That RU is currently the better program
- That RU is in the better conference
- That Frans recruiting will likely hurt Pitt BC and others more than RU, even if there is some damage to RU.
- That Cuse being stronger could rise NE football as a whole and affect other schools who have been getting the talent level that would be directed elsewhere
These kids don’t stay at a school for 4 years, so you don’t know where they will get their degree.
I never said anything about that. You might want to tell this to the person I was replying to.
Fran Brown hasn't coached a single game yet. Generating excitement, winning the press conference and the offseason social media game is one thing. Even "Shady" did this when he returned in Dec 2019. Winning football games on the field and doing so consistently is another thing entirely. I'm not making predictions one way or the other because I don't know how Brown will do. I'm not just talking about X's and O's either. Let's see how his teams handle adversity when things aren't going well. The excitement of an "exciting hire" can dim quickly when losing, injuries, lack of playing time, egos, etc. rear their ugly heads. I'm always skeptical of "players' coaches" for those reasons.
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I mean ace recruiters from NJ are dominating the ACC. Just ask the GS detractors' last flavor of the month in Chestnut Hill, right?
I recall how he was going to ruin us. Then we beat them...which somehow didn't count. Then he fell onto the hot seat. So they need a new flavor. And as only they could do, they're playing up his recruits...which are lower ranked than our class...
When they hired him, I said it was a high risk/high reward proposition that I thought made some sense for Syracuse. He may turn out to be the second coming of Chris Ash when it comes to game day coaching but right now he is getting it done in the transfer market. He is certainly giving himself a chance to be successful.
One-time Memorial HS (West New York NJ) football player and Syracuse assistant to local NJ parochial high school football coach. Might have been on Joe Susan’s staff at Bucknell.
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Former Power Five assistant heading to New Jersey football parochial powerhouse
Bobby Acosta is taking over a New Jersey parochial program.
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I believe that South Florida just scored again
St. John Vianney ?One-time Memorial HS (West New York NJ) football player and Syracuse assistant to local NJ parochial high school football coach. Might have been on Joe Susan’s staff at Bucknell.
Former Power Five assistant heading to New Jersey football parochial powerhouse
Bobby Acosta is taking over a New Jersey parochial program.
Good luck with that.
Nothing that's the issue. Nothing like a NNJ Parochial powerhouse.
This is different because Fran Brown is making money moves and isn’t afraid to sling around NIL bags, thx to Syracuse alumni who are used to doing the same on the basketball side. This puts us at a recruiting disadvantage. IMO, Jaylen Hornsby was the last piece of our puzzle, and he’s going to SU.
They have the :
#1 NJ Transfer Quarterback
#1 NJ Running Back
#1 and #2 NJ WRs
Other NJ players
This is their most significant NJ recruiting haul in at least 25 years, and a direct shot across our bow. Anyone who underestimates Fran Brown is a Fool, especially seeing the players he brought in for us in ‘22. This is his shot and he’s going to make the most of it.
Their schedule looks very manageable, so they will be formidable competition for us. We need to step up our NIL efforts, and build the field house, to better compete in recruiting.
Boston College is a glorified Catholic High School, and doesn’t have the resources to compete in this new world of recruiting. Syracuse is ready to play for keeps.
Do you ever make Statements based on facts? Your whole post is assumption about NIL
You still upset because Miami couldn’t outbid BC for Zay Flowers
WOW surprised this thread has 14 k post.
Just to follow up on your post regarding Pitt not offering the WCU QB.
Narduzzi/Bell (OC/QB Coach) recruited Alabama QB Eli Holstein who will be transferring to Pitt.
Eli Holstein Rival 4-Star Alabama QB (ESPN #29 overall ranked recruit and Louisana Player of the Year in the class of 2023).
On paper looks like a good get.
In HS ELI was a 3 year starter and threw for 7014 yds/62TD/13 int and rushed for 1233 yds/30 TD.
Was at Alabama for 1 year and will have 4 years remaining at Pitt.
Pitt OC Kade Bell has completed the O staff with 3 new coaching additions (RB,TE and OL) and retaining Rutgers WR player/now coach Underwood as the WR coach.
Will be an interesting next year for Pitt to see how they perform in Bell's up tempo O.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
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They got 4 of the top 12 NJ recruits in their latest class; this while Brown was only on the job for 2 weeks.
This momentum will certainly pick up for their next class if they start winning more games/bigger Bowls. Will this impact our NJ recruiting..absolutely. Hopefully Brown moves onto bigger opportunities (or busts) in the near future.
Saw that but when I made my post the Alabama transfer wasn’t even an option
Realize that.
He accepted the Pitt offer Jan. 7.
Was surprised Narduzzi went with young assistant coaches for the O revamp.
Will have to see how it all works out next year.
Have to be able to put points on the board if you expect to win.
Steelers faced the same problem and they let go OC Matt Canada mid season.
Waiting to see how this works out for the Steelers.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
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I cited facts:
1 NJ Transfer Quarterback
#1 NJ Running Back
#1 and #2 NJ WRs
Other NJ players
Do you think these kids are going to Syracuse for the glorious weather?
You have zero idea how much NIL was involved. How much if it had to do with prior relationships. How much with lack of options. You also have no idea how much NIL schools have. Did BC outbid Miami or not? I know the real answer. Do you?
We don’t need to know how much is involved. It’s involved and Richie has corroborated this. Sure, other factors play a role as well, and lack of options wasn’t an issue with the kids I cited.
In Zay Flowers, I have no idea, because I wasn’t paying attention. Miami did pay between $1M to $2M for Kam Ward, and got their guy.
....and Schiano remarkably retained virtually all his returning starters who have already proven they have the ability to play power 5 football. In addition, signing the #1 player in NY State (a WR) and the # 1 QB in New Jersey isn't too shabby.
We also need to clarify that while they did get the top NJ RB...the kid visited Rutgers 10 times without getting an offer. If we offered, he was coming here.
They did a nice pull with WR, I have to say and getting their QB. But that was 100% NIL.
Almost all the rest that they pulled in out of NJ- I do not believe we went hard after any of them.
They did a nice pull with WR, I have to say and getting their QB. But that was 100% NIL.
Almost all the rest that they pulled in out of NJ- I do not believe we went hard after any of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Brown_(quarterback) They had another good QB who sadly got paralyzed. They've had some very good teams over the years, you're clueless.
The article mentions the possibility of becoming a national powerhouse.
I would agree with @Kbee3, good luck with that.
Al, I actually think many of your takes are much more informed and realistic then you get credit for, I can tell you watch a ton of college football.
That said, I have to disagree with a few things here.
Former #1 QB Kyle McCord is nowhere near as good as folks on these boards think he is. He plays scared and gets happy feet. He is absolutely better than anyone we have, but is he special? Hard no from me. I realize that’s an unpopular opinion.
The rumors surrounding their #1 NJ WR are that he may be dropped by TAMU for better options ala Art Sitkowski at Miamiand their fans didn’t cry about him going. His Uncle is the new Cuse DC. I just don’t chalk this up to a genuine loss on our scorecard.
The #NJ RB was to me the biggest W for Brown. I don’t know if I 100% buy we didn’t offer. But with Monangai, SB III, Aaron Young still on the roster at that time and Benjamin logging considerable playing time I could see why a lot of solid Rb recruits would think twice before committing to us.
My opinion is Fran Brown has built a beauty pageant of hyped up leftovers and sloppy seconds. Like at a strip club, they look great in the dark but flip on the lights and those 10s turn into 4s and 5s real quick, belly scars, wrinkles and all.
My bigger concern is their schedule next year. A schedule that weak will make bad teams look decent and average teams look good. I don’t at all doubt Brown’s ability to recruit and with a decent year I think he may do some damage. That said Greg is a hell of a recruiter too, and no matter what their fans say they’ve been calling him Shady for 20 years because of his recruiting prowess.
If we can beat a UCLA, a Wisconsin or a very depleted Washington next year I think we can sell that we play a higher level of football, which is hard to argue when looking at their schedule. I have no problem letting their fans believe they ‘raided’ NJ this year and that college game day might show up to the Carrier dome next year, (yes, I did read that on their boards), but thus far I don’t feel Fran Brown is worth a fraction of the freak out that has happened on both Rutgers sites.
That said, I have to disagree with a few things here.
Former #1 QB Kyle McCord is nowhere near as good as folks on these boards think he is. He plays scared and gets happy feet. He is absolutely better than anyone we have, but is he special? Hard no from me. I realize that’s an unpopular opinion.
The rumors surrounding their #1 NJ WR are that he may be dropped by TAMU for better options ala Art Sitkowski at Miamiand their fans didn’t cry about him going. His Uncle is the new Cuse DC. I just don’t chalk this up to a genuine loss on our scorecard.
The #NJ RB was to me the biggest W for Brown. I don’t know if I 100% buy we didn’t offer. But with Monangai, SB III, Aaron Young still on the roster at that time and Benjamin logging considerable playing time I could see why a lot of solid Rb recruits would think twice before committing to us.
My opinion is Fran Brown has built a beauty pageant of hyped up leftovers and sloppy seconds. Like at a strip club, they look great in the dark but flip on the lights and those 10s turn into 4s and 5s real quick, belly scars, wrinkles and all.
My bigger concern is their schedule next year. A schedule that weak will make bad teams look decent and average teams look good. I don’t at all doubt Brown’s ability to recruit and with a decent year I think he may do some damage. That said Greg is a hell of a recruiter too, and no matter what their fans say they’ve been calling him Shady for 20 years because of his recruiting prowess.
If we can beat a UCLA, a Wisconsin or a very depleted Washington next year I think we can sell that we play a higher level of football, which is hard to argue when looking at their schedule. I have no problem letting their fans believe they ‘raided’ NJ this year and that college game day might show up to the Carrier dome next year, (yes, I did read that on their boards), but thus far I don’t feel Fran Brown is worth a fraction of the freak out that has happened on both Rutgers sites.
Nice summary and did not know that about the WR.
The RB- only going by a timeline- don’t remember if rivals or TOS- had him visit Rutgers 10 times without an offer. And they did show about 7-8 other P5 offers.
But no way to know if the kid will be good or not- he could end up very good but the point is, a kid doesn’t visit 10 times if that school is not their top destination
Totally agree with everything especially the leftovers and sloppy seconds. Nobody was concerned when the RB committed to Pittsburgh or the WR committed to Texas A&M before the changed to Syracuse. No one really cared about losing the RB on the Pittsburgh board Instead we have fans that act like he de-committed from Rutgers to go to Cuse. I heard the WR was the nephew to the Cuse DC. We already have 5 WR commits before they signed their 2 WR. In their best year of recruiting, they are now 7th best recruiting class in the ACC.
They might have one good season but many of the recruits will be sitting out their freshman year and many of the transfer didn’t play at their previous schools. The majority of the transfers are from Georgia and Texas A & M where they were exposed to their DC and Brown for over a year which made it easy to decide to go to Cuse due to their year long relationships. That won’t happen in any other year.
I guess they think getting us scared will get more people to give to the NIL. We got the QB that the OC wanted but most of us wanted a better QB but just like the transfers with Cuse, it’s all about the relationships. Schiano strategy was to use the NIL money for the current players to retain them instead of buying new players that might or might not fit our system. I don’t know if it’s the right strategy but we have to see how we preform this season.
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I'm also thinking anyone who brings up something as weirdly random as whacking off to Marcia Brady posters is probably speaking from personal experience. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I may be wrong but don’t Donovan Catholic, St Thomas, and RBC have that area in control.
1. Is this the Syracuse program that lost their bowl game 45-0? Steep hill to climb.
2. SU lost to VT by 28
3. ACC evolving into AAC while BIG picks up top teams from PAC
4. RU has strength at RB. And when Kyle moves on to NFL Next year. We will have POP, KYLE, The Bus flying the RU RB flag.
5. We should revisit this thread and evaluate at the end of 2024 season I believe we will be happier team.
2. SU lost to VT by 28
3. ACC evolving into AAC while BIG picks up top teams from PAC
4. RU has strength at RB. And when Kyle moves on to NFL Next year. We will have POP, KYLE, The Bus flying the RU RB flag.
5. We should revisit this thread and evaluate at the end of 2024 season I believe we will be happier team.
Some of their fans think they will be in the playoffs next year, they are crazier than RutgersAl.
Let them think that, even if it comes to pass;
The Scarlet Knights will be in the Championship game and win the Title.
15-0 "baby"
Agreed, if they don't win the conference 10 wins won't get them into the playoff. Their 2024 SOS is a joke as is the conference. In the new format, with the expanded B1G and SEC, the ACC is a one bid league. ND being considered an independent for playoff purposes.
St. John Vianney over the years:
2023 3-7, 2022 5-5, 2021 4-7, 2020 5-4, 2019 4-5, 2018 4-5, 2017 10-1, 2016 10-1, 2015 11-1, 2014 12-1, 2013 4-6, 2012 6-4, 2011 5-5, 2010 4-6, 2009 4-6, 2008 3-7, 2007 4-6, 2006 6-3, 2005 4-6, 2004 2-8.
Although they did have an impressive four-year stretch from 2014-2017, it's easy to see why someone would think they've been pretty mediocre over the last twenty years.
And that's not even factoring in the level of competition. How many times over those twenty years did they play Bergen Catholic, Don Bosco, Paramus Catholic, St. Joseph's(Montvale), St. Peter's Prep, or DePaul ?
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He probably would not have broken RU two-deep for a while, so went for a place where he can play right away.
Not true. Fran is bringing in the 36th best class. Greg brought in the 67th ranked class when he was hired.
