OT: 2023 NY Giants Season Thread
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What an embarrassing performance. Cardinals win with Murray back. Big for the Giants draft position.
Cards v Bears
Giants v Pats
2 monster draft order games
Having a hard time finding another panthers win
Giants huge cards comeback may cost them Harrison jr or Caleb Williams
Giants v Pats
2 monster draft order games
Having a hard time finding another panthers win
Giants huge cards comeback may cost them Harrison jr or Caleb Williams
This isn’t Pop Warner.
His back up QB is allowed to make plays
No sh*t it's not Pop Warner, but why take unnecessary risks with your WR core throwing deep balls or your QB running it? Giants couldn't score 22 pts. in three games let alone half a quarter. The name of the game in the NFL is just win to make the playoffs and get out injury free. Not score as many as you can to impress voters and the Playoff Committee. It's taking risks for no reward.
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2024 NFL Draft order tracker updated after every game. View traded picks in all seven rounds and a live updating Mock Draft after each game.
A lot of stuff I’m reading is putting Maye even with Williams. Williams doesn’t face tough defense in his conference and when he does he underperforms. Him crying after one loss some people are criticizing him for that. They said he was sulking after the ND loss too. Not sure how he would handle NY
Giants are tied for fourth worse team in NFL and two, Cardinals and Panthers, aren't going to draft a QB. I don’t know if New England going to draft another QB over Mac Jones. They will be able to draft either the first or second best QB in the draft and I hear they’re 5 good QB. Just continue losing. Jets will probably be able to get one of the 5 QB also.
They might be stupid again and not draft a QB.
They might be stupid again and not draft a QB.
The Panthers don't have a 1st rounder. It is the Bears who have the #1 overall right now from their trade with Carolina.
I really wonder what the Bears are going to do.
Suppose they get #1 overall and #6 or similar.
Do they give up on Fields? This is his 3rd year. need to make a decision on his 5th year option after this year.
Trade #1 overall to a QB needy team?
Take MHJ for Fields?
NE is definitely looking at a QB.
Mac Jones got benched for Bailey Zappy to lead a game winning drive yesterday (who promptly threw an INT).
Zero chance they pick up his 5th year option and just let him play out his contract next year.
2021 QB draft class turned out to be pretty terrible.
Trevor Lawrence - good but hasn't really turned the corner and become an elite QB it seems
Zach Wilson - enough said.
Trey Lance - replaced by a 7th round pick QB and traded
Justin Fields - shows just enough promise to string along the team for another couple years (see Daniel Jones situation all over again).
Mac Jones - benched for Bailey Zappy
Yeah Chicago is going to the biggest wild card in all of this. If they decide to keep Fields it will help the Giants obviously. Patriots are 100% going QB and if you believe the rumors Belichick might be done there at the end of the year. If it is a new HC they will be taking QB no questions asked. Arizona is interesting. They have Kyler on big money but they can also make the decision to move on. Hopefully he wins some game for them and the get bumped into the back half of the top 10.
I guess benching Jones meant lose as many games as possible for the rest of the season. Same with DeVito with the Giants.
Going to guess that the Bears will go for another QB. QB's in the draft seem to be pretty much a crap-shoot these days. Since 2000 - the ratio of Highly Successful QB's drafted at or near the top of the NFL Draft is not great when compared to the guys who ended up not working out or being busts......
QB's who seem to have been worth the high Pick:
Burrow - #1 Overall
Tua - #5 Overall
Herbert - #6 Overall
Eli Manning - #1
Rivers - #4
Matt Ryan - #3
QB's near the top who never came close (or have not to date) fulfilled their high pick promise:
JaMarcus Russell - #1 Overall
Mitch Trubisky - #2
David Carr - #1
Sam Bradford - #1
Vince Young - #3
Jameis Winston - #1
Mariota - #2
Mark Sanches - #5
Kyler Murray - #1
Daniel Jones - #6
Blake Borles - #3
Zach Wilson - #2
Trey Lance #3
Carson Wentz - #2
Baker Mayfield - #1
Sam Darnold - #2
RG3 - #2
Meanwhile some solid (and even great!) NFL Starters have come from pick #10 and in further rounds:
Mahomes - #10 Overall
Rothlesberger - #11
Hurts - 3rd Round
Dak Prescott - 4th Round
Purdy - 7th Round
Derek Carr - 2nd Round
Jimmy Garappolo - 2nd Round
Drew Brees - 2nd Round
Russell Wilson - 3rd Round
Cousins - 4th Round
Tannehill - 8th Pick (3rd QB Picked in that draft)
Rodgers - #24 Overall
Josh Allen - #7 (3rd QB Picked behind Mayfield & Darnold)
Lamar Jackson - #32 Overall
Geno Smith - 2nd Round
Sam Howell - 5th Round
Finally - some QB's picked at or near the top who had good/very good NFL Careers but questionable if they were worth the top pick status
Lawrence - #1 Overall - still a TBD to get to the list above.
Goff - #1 Overall
Cam Newton #1
Carson Palmer - #1
Vick - #1
Andrew Luck - #1
Alex Smith - #1
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Time for the 1st mock draft simulator. I'm not giving up on Jones but I'm hedging my bets. And #2 gives you huge trade potential. And you can keep trading down. Here's what I came up with, starting with a trade with Houston for #2 that gets a massive haul.
24. Amarius Mims OT Georgia
36. Cooper Beebe OG Kansas St.
54 Maason Smith DT LSU
64. Jayden Daniels QB LSU
85. Ja'Lynn Pok WR Washington
96 T'Vondre Sweat DT Texas
98. Ben Sinnott TE Kansas ST.
132. Smael Mondon LB Georgia
'25 Hou 1st
'25 Phil 3rd
'25 Ind 3rd
'25 Pit 4th
'25 Phil 4th
'25 NYJ 6th
24. Amarius Mims OT Georgia
36. Cooper Beebe OG Kansas St.
54 Maason Smith DT LSU
64. Jayden Daniels QB LSU
85. Ja'Lynn Pok WR Washington
96 T'Vondre Sweat DT Texas
98. Ben Sinnott TE Kansas ST.
132. Smael Mondon LB Georgia
'25 Hou 1st
'25 Phil 3rd
'25 Ind 3rd
'25 Pit 4th
'25 Phil 4th
'25 NYJ 6th
Divito sacked 5 times in the 1st qtr. He might hold the ball than Tom Brady but there's still no excuse. Anyone who thinks OL isn't top priority for free agency or the draft is kidding themselves.
D turned Wash twice in the 1st so Giants are up 7-3.
D turned Wash twice in the 1st so Giants are up 7-3.
DeVito actually outplayed Sam Howell. He might develop into a decent #2. Would be nice from a cap perspective.
Odd game in that he was sacked 9 times, yet had a ton of time on most passing plays.
Should be noted Wash did just trade away 2 of their best pass rushers.
why would players tank? They’re playing for their careers.
Devito has more 2+ TD games (2) than Kenny Pickett on the Steelers
Is drafting a new QB preventing the team from fixing the OL?
I don't understand the correlation
Houston had a terrible OL last year.
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-2023-offseason
They definitely shouldn't have drafted
C.J. Stroud this year.
Should have waited and only addressed one item at a time each year.
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-2023-offseason
They definitely shouldn't have drafted
C.J. Stroud this year.
Should have waited and only addressed one item at a time each year.
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