OT: 2024 NY Mets Season Thread
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So- let’s do we win the next game 6-1 or something like that…
Or, do you all feel it is already over?
Asking for a friend.
Or, do you all feel it is already over?
Asking for a friend.
Johnny Bench says he finds it very easy to believe.
Stating the obvious:
Really need to get the bats going. Letting too many fastballs pass and swinging at too much off speed junk.
Really need to cut down, or better yet eliminate the walks from the pitching staff. I know Ohtani and Betts are tough, but can't be walking the bottom of the order guys
Really need to get the bats going. Letting too many fastballs pass and swinging at too much off speed junk.
Really need to cut down, or better yet eliminate the walks from the pitching staff. I know Ohtani and Betts are tough, but can't be walking the bottom of the order guys
Johnny Bench once said of Jerry Grote, "If Grote and I were on the same team, I would be playing third base."
17 runs allowed and zero scored. Needless to say the offense and the pitching are equally at fault in the 2 losses.
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Agree totally on the bats. From today's story in The Athletic (paywalled).
"The Mets have scored seven runs in three games; the majority of which came home on one Mark Vientos swing."
"For the series, the Mets are hitting .179 with a .292 on-base percentage and .555 OPS. Those numbers would be a slump for Rey Ordoñez."
Ding, ding, ding.
The constant focus on Alvarez and Severino is completely misplaced, just like the player who the object of many fans' hatred last year--a very small part of the the problem with the team, but glossing over the bigger problem. Face it, the entire offense has sucked.
Did anyone hear why Mendoza played Martinez instead of Winker last night against a righty? Clearly, he couldn't have been any worse.
I would have also put lefty McNeil in over Iglesias. But Iglesias hit the ball hard so I can't second guess that one.
A lot of us also felt Alvarez was in a funk and needed an extra day to watch from the bench. Clearly, Torrenz could not have possibly done worse.
That said, in important games, I prefer being blown out to losing a heartbreaker. If they win today, the margins don't matter. All that will matter is two games a piece. If we get 6 quality innings from Quintana and some offense, you have Maton, the hippie, and Sugar all fresh to hold a lead.
I would have also put lefty McNeil in over Iglesias. But Iglesias hit the ball hard so I can't second guess that one.
A lot of us also felt Alvarez was in a funk and needed an extra day to watch from the bench. Clearly, Torrenz could not have possibly done worse.
That said, in important games, I prefer being blown out to losing a heartbreaker. If they win today, the margins don't matter. All that will matter is two games a piece. If we get 6 quality innings from Quintana and some offense, you have Maton, the hippie, and Sugar all fresh to hold a lead.
Yeah I had a problem with 1/3 of the lineup yesterday and made that clear multiple times and before the game started.
From tweets, "Martinez helped get us here" yadda yadda. Aint buying it. He was abysmal down the stretch and took one of the worst 0fers in Mets history. He had no business being in that lineup yesterday, and neither did Alvarez. Iffy McNeil instead of Iglesias was debatable.
Well, don’t expect much to change for Game 4. Yoshinobu Yamamoto, the Dodgers’ other splashy signing from the offseason, is set to start Thursday, and the right-hander has actually fared better against left-handed batters, holding them to a .526 OPS (.744 OPS against right-handed batters). So, Mendoza said, “I would anticipate our righties to be in the lineup tomorrow.”
Translation: That probably means more of J.D. Martinez at designated hitter (not Jesse Winker), more of Iglesias at second base (not McNeil) and more of Starling Marte in right field (not Winker or McNeil).
And don’t look for a change at catcher, either; Mendoza announced after the loss that Alvarez would start Thursday, despite continuing his slump and adding a defensive miscue with a throwing error during a two-run second inning.
And from Mendoza’s perspective, there wasn’t much of a decision to be made.
“Iglesias has been one of our best hitters with runners in scoring position all year,” Mendoza said. “He had an infield single, nice line drive right at Mookie (Betts). So I don’t think that was a conversation. For the guys behind him, maybe. The lefties were ready. But not for Iglesias, knowing they had the lefty ready there.”
Paywalled:
Winker May be hurt (back) and couldn’t go? Only reason I could see him not starting DH yesterday. He didn’t even pinch hit so maybe not available.
isnt this sort of only half the analytics? What are JD/OMG vs Winker/Jeff numbers against righties?
With LA having no lefties, my guess is he wanted to throw JD a bone and not sit him the whole series. Unfortunately, it's just not the time of year to divvy out bones.
Being outscored big in 2 loses means dick. First one to 4 victories is all that matters. Ask the 1960 Yankees how that mattered against the Pirates. They outscored the Pirates 56-27 and lost in 7 games on Bill Maz walk off HR
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we are down 2-1 games...the scores mean almost nothing.
One team had to be up 2-1 even if it is an equal matchup. Tonight is the big game. And like I said after game 1- doesn't matter in baseball if the score is 9-0 or 6-4 in a loss, it has nothing to do with the next game.
One team had to be up 2-1 even if it is an equal matchup. Tonight is the big game. And like I said after game 1- doesn't matter in baseball if the score is 9-0 or 6-4 in a loss, it has nothing to do with the next game.
I don't know. It's like Bader and Alvarez are guaranteed outs. Then throw in Martinez chasing balls that break a foot outside and I'm not seeing a lineup capable of having a rally. I'm stating the obvious but we need a big game from Pete tonight.
The Gold Glove has always tended toward those who could hit too. If you're close and the other guy can't hit nearly as well, you'll get it.
By far the biggest problem is that the Dodgers are more talented.
agree with this...There are some exceptions but usually when it isn't close- a Buddy Harrelson, Mark Belanger, Paul Blair and even Ozzie Smith come to mind. And speaking of Smith -if he is in the HOF- K Hernandez should be too. just saying lol
JD is done. Time has caught up to him. I hope he proves me wrong.
Watching the RU game and Yankee game and it’s hard to believe there was a time when the scores and game clock were not visible at all while watching a game on TV. You had to wait till the announcers told you or the end of an inning
