OT: 2024 NY Mets Season Thread
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Seve- 72 pitches- 7 innings- let him finish the f-ing game...just saying
I believe that if the Mets do become sellers, Severino is the guy who brings back the biggest return. Even more than Alonso.
Answer to first question is no.
Second question is interesting. I think Stearns will be working the phones to see if either Nido or Torrens might bring back a mid-level prospect. If so, he makes the move.
I gotta believe that Nido is an upgrade over somebody's backup C.
EDIT: Nido will be a free agent next year. But Torrens still has two arbitration years left. For that reason I think the Mets will DFA and eventually trade Nido, and keep Torrens.
But on the other hand... The fact that Torrens has two controllable years may make him the more attractive trade target, who would bring back a better prospect.
Which is a long-winded way to say I have no idea.
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June 5 Mets Farm Report (Top 30 Prospects per MLB Pipeline)
AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)
AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)
- Jett Williams SS/CF (AA Binghamton) - Injured
- Drew Gilbert OF (AAA Syracuse) - Injured
- Christian Scott RHP (AAA Syracuse) - 5.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 7 K, 1 HR, 2.97
- Ryan Clifford OF/1B (AA Binghamton) - 1/2, HR(3), 2 R, RBI, 2 BB, K, .158/.710
- Luisangel Acuna SS/2B (AAA Syracuse) - 0/3, BB, .246/.646
- Ronny Mauricio 2B/SS/OF (NY Mets) - Injured; Out for Season
- Colin Houck SS (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/4, .212/.641
- Marco Vargas INF (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
- Kevin Parada C (AA Binghamton) - 1/3, 2 R, K, .202/.641
- Blade Tidwell RHP (AAA Syracuse) - 0.2 IP, 2 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, 1 HR, 4.38, L(0-1)
- Mike Vasil RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
- Jeremy Rodriguez SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/4, R, K, .333/.896
- Brandon Sproat RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
- Dominic Hamel RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
- Jacob Reimer 3B/1B (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
- Alex Ramirez OF (AA Binghamton) - 0/5, R, K, .240/.648
- Yovanny Rodriguez C (DSL Mets Orange) - DNP
- Tyler Stuart RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
- Nolan McLean RHP/DH (AA Binghamton) - DNP
- Jonah Tong RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
- Ronald Hernandez C/1B (Low A St. Lucie) - 0/2, 2 BB, .280/.753
- Jesus Baez SS/2B (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/4, RBI, .267/.767
- Calvin Ziegler RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured; TJS Out for Season
- Wilfredo Lara OF/3B (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
- Boston Baro SS/3B (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/5, RBI, K, .275/.781
- Nick Morabito OF (High A Brooklyn) - 2/5, K, .308/.824
- Raimon Gomez RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
- Joander Suarez RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
- Saul Garcia RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
- Rhylan Thomas OF (AAA Syracuse) - 0/4, 2 K, .240/.609
- Douglas Orellana (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
- Kade Morris RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
- Jeffry Rosa OF (Low A St. Lucie) - 0/3, BB, .175/.605
- Jack Wenninger RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
- Joel Diaz RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - 4.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 K, 0 HR, 1.80
- Willy Fanas OF (Low A St. Lucie) - 2/4, 3B(2), K, .243/.796
- A.J. Ewing 2B/CF (Low A St. Lucie) - 0/3, BB, .000/.375
- Jake Zitella 1B (Rookie FCL Mets) - 2/3, R, RBI, BB, .324/.819
- Branny De Oleo SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - 0/4, RBI, 3 K, .212/.547
- Simon Juan OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 0/4, 2 K, .256/.803
- Daiverson Guttierez C (DSL Mets Blue) - DNP
I dont think we get a prospect for either of them but I've been surprised before. We just traded cash to Yanks for Torrens.
I'm seeing Clifford with a .146 BA, but a .700 OPS.
It's everything I hate about baseball today(I'll just assume he strikes out a ton) but I'll guess there is some good going on below that awful BA.
The numbers you cite on Clifford are just his AA stats, not his composite High A + AA.
At AA, he is 9 for 57 which is .158. However, he has 14 walks - almost 20% of his plate appearances have been walks! This boosts his OBP. Of his nine hits, seven have been for extra bases - four doubles and three homers, which ups his slug, resulting in a decent OPS of .710.
He does strike out a ton - 26 times in 71 PA.
150 is 150 at A and AA .
I will say it is amazing every time he steps up to the plate the wind starts blowing in !!!
He’s still very young but it would be nice to see him hit well against fellow youngsters
It’s the analytics nerds who like him and see potential
His BABIP
Batting average on balls in play
Is around 320-330
They feel if he stops striking out he will start to light it up.
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I will say it is amazing every time he steps up to the plate the wind starts blowing in !!!
He’s still very young but it would be nice to see him hit well against fellow youngsters
It’s the analytics nerds who like him and see potential
His BABIP
Batting average on balls in play
Is around 320-330
They feel if he stops striking out he will start to light it up.
Ryan Clifford Stats, Age, Position, Height, Weight, Fantasy & News
Ryan Clifford Stats, Age, Position, Height, Weight, Fantasy & News
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His BABIP is low at AA which means his AVG might go up if that gets corrected. His power is up at AA which we thought when he left Brooklyn. He walks a lot and K's a lot. He's a 3 outcome player right now with a lot of projection in his bat based on scouting not analytics. He's also 20 at AA which is young for the league and he's only been there for less than 20 games. Not everyone masters a level in 20 games geez.
Edwin Diaz just threw a rehab inning in Brooklyn. 14 pitches, 11 strikes, 2 K's, 1 hit. Touched 98 on the gun.
All good ball players.
How about Brad Penny?
Though not baseball related - how about Eddie Money or the Fabulous Moolah?
If touching 98 means topping out at 98, that’s about where he’s been all year.
P.s., just saw highlights of his outing, and one of those fastballs was hammered the other way off the top of the fence by some A baller. I'm not yet convinced (but willing to be) that Diaz's problems are in his head. Sometimes the lack of confidence comes after the stuff drops off.
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Sub .500 by 8 games and only 3 out of the last WC spot. If this collection of misfits can get to 80+ wins who knows what can happen. Again, Cohen isn't punting on the 2024 season as I said from day one. With that said,bringing up a couple of rookies to see how they fit in or energize the team wouldn't be the worst thing!
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June 6 Mets Farm Report (Top 30 Prospects per MLB Pipeline)
AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)
AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)
- Jett Williams SS/CF (AA Binghamton) - Injured
- Drew Gilbert OF (AAA Syracuse) - Injured
- Christian Scott RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
- Ryan Clifford OF/1B (AA Binghamton) - 1/3, HR(4), R, 3 RBI, BB, .167/.766
- Luisangel Acuna SS/2B (AAA Syracuse) - G1 0/3, BB, 2 K G2 1/5, R, K, .242/.636
- Ronny Mauricio 2B/SS/OF (NY Mets) - Injured; Out for Season
- Colin Houck SS (Low A St. Lucie) - 0/2, RBI, 2 BB, K, .210/.640
- Marco Vargas INF (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
- Kevin Parada C (AA Binghamton) - 0/3, K, .199/.631
- Blade Tidwell RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
- Mike Vasil RHP (AAA Syracuse) - G2 4.1 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 3 BB, 4 K, 1 HR, 7.46
- Jeremy Rodriguez SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - Off
- Brandon Sproat RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
- Dominic Hamel RHP (AAA Syracuse) - G1 4.0 IP, 5 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 3 BB, 3 K, 3 HR, 7.29, L(1-3)
- Jacob Reimer 3B/1B (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
- Alex Ramirez OF (AA Binghamton) - 1/4, R, K, .240/.644
- Yovanny Rodriguez C (DSL Mets Orange) - 0/2, R, 2 BB, .000/.250
- Tyler Stuart RHP (AA Binghamton) - 2.2 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, 1 HR, 4.32, L(1-4)
- Nolan McLean RHP/DH (AA Binghamton) - 0/3, BB, 3 K, .235/.679
- Jonah Tong RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
- Ronald Hernandez C/1B (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
- Jesus Baez SS/2B (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/3, HR(8), 2 R, RBI, BB, .268/.783
- Calvin Ziegler RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured; TJS Out for Season
- Wilfredo Lara OF/3B (High A Brooklyn) - 2/2, 3 R, BB, .217/.626
- Boston Baro SS/3B (Low A St. Lucie) - 0/4, .264/.753
- Nick Morabito OF (High A Brooklyn) - 1/5, 2 R, BB, K, SB(15), .302/.808
- Raimon Gomez RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
- Joander Suarez RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
- Saul Garcia RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
- Rhylan Thomas OF (AAA Syracuse) - G1 0/3 G2 2/5, R, 2 K, .241/.595
- Douglas Orellana (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
- Kade Morris RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
- Jeffry Rosa OF (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/4, 2 RBI, 2 K, .179/.601
- Jack Wenninger RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - 6.0 IP, 8 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 2 HR, 5.01, L(1-3)
- Joel Diaz RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
- Willy Fanas OF (Low A St. Lucie) - 0/4, K, .220/.723
- A.J. Ewing 2B/CF (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/3, R, BB, 2 K, .125/.542
- Jake Zitella 1B (Rookie FCL Mets) - Off
- Branny De Oleo SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - Off
- Simon Juan OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - Off
- Daiverson Gutierrez C (DSL Mets Blue) - 0/2, BB, .200/.733
Which rookies would you bring up that you honestly believe would improve the team at this point? And who would you drop?
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Acuna, since after his slow start has been on the upswing. Hamel, who has some impressive K/ip stats but his era is not good this early season.I'd also consider Sproat and if the injury bug stops then either Jett Williams, the most Major league ready or Gilbert should get a look in August. As far as who gets traded or sent down that would depend on injuries or performance at that point. Most teams don't bring up more than 2 or 3 players in any one season but that doesn't mean they'd be throwing in the towel if they did. Over the years making the jump from AA to the majors has happened for many teams, why not the Mets.
They should try Hamel or Vasil in the pen soon. Stuff might play up better in short stints.
No way I call up Jett who barely has a few games at AA. Sproat at some point next year most likely. Gilbert hopefully we see in July/August but this injury was a killer in wasted time.
No way I call up Jett who barely has a few games at AA. Sproat at some point next year most likely. Gilbert hopefully we see in July/August but this injury was a killer in wasted time.
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Acuna needs to hit better in the minor leagues. His 1700 at bats in the minors have been OK but not great, save for a good 200 at bats in rookie league. Even his stolen base rate this year is below the average in the majors.
Looking at Zak s farm system report:
All the “top” prospects are either hurt and / or under performing.
Unfortunately a recurring issue with this organization
All the “top” prospects are either hurt and / or under performing.
Unfortunately a recurring issue with this organization
I’m really trying not to be captain negativo all the time
Form your own opinion. Just pay attention to paper Mâché marte …
Treats warning track like it’s a moat and apparently
Every wall in right is made of barbed wire
Was on third hit to SS ran home after throw to first, slide under the tag. Seems to be playing with more confidences batting lead off. Now if the other 9,hitters could start to feel more confident
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