Derek was a horrible fit with Dylan because he always wanted the ball and Dylan should always have it. He was a better defender than JMike, but Derek would not have accepted or been happy in JMike’s role. JMike is averaging less than 2 shots per game over the past 6 games. Pike has gotten JMike to accept his role. That’s not Derek — if he had not shot in a few trips you knew a midrange miss was going up soon
OT: Another nice game by Simpson
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I agree if he played D and hit his FT's we would be a much better team with him. He seems to have accepted that role at St Joe's and when J Will came back he ahot much less here too. I was hoping his D would continue to improve because it was good to very good last year depending on matchups.
The problem with many (hint hint) is they build up players after great games and then trash them when they fail to meet that level every game. This goes back to Geo and RHJ too. A lot of regulars are guilt of this.
It's no different than JWill, who needs the ball to be of any use offensively. You do need multiple guys that can handle though. Derek has taken a supporting role on at St. Joe's, so we have no idea what he would have done here.
He's taken more of a supporting role at 31 mpg in 11/11 starts (so says college-reference), and still has almost 11 FTA/40 min.
He's increased his threes and cut down on his twos (hopefully those bad mid-range attempts)... which we'd hoped he would do more last season, but never did. Hopefully he can keep that up through the rest of the year.
Jwill just dropped 20 off of all hustle plays basically. He doesn't need the ball he's adjusting to his new role, some good some bad. I don't understand the premise of these Simpson posts? We already established that jMike is here and is friends with Ace. I think we all can agree that jwill is better than Simpson. So I think the whole point you guys are making is that people aren't being as hard on jMike as they were on Simpson?
As someone stated above jMike is avg 2 shots a game...he doesn't have the ball nearly as much as Simpson had it last year. So he isn't seen enough for people to criticize him although you guys manage to bring up any of his mistakes in multiple threads on this board in an attempt to compare to simpson.
Also who says Simpson would want jmikes role? 15 minutes and 2 shots a game? At this point if you guys are t Simpsons family, this has to be a new kind of troll lol I don't understand it .
St. Joes 82. Va Tech 62
Simpson. 18 points. 6 Rebounds 6 Assists, 2 Steals. 4-8 from 3. 2-2 from the line.
No trolling. Think Pike made a mistake. Think Simpson got a raw deal from RU fans.
Puzzled by love some players get and hate others get. Fair commentary in my opinion.
Just because you don’t like an opinion, that doesnt mean it’s trolling. Simpson until recently wasn’t starting. Think could have found a use for his foul shooting and D.
JMike got 26 minutes today. Gotta think Simpson would have fine with 26 minutes.
When opposing coaches call Simpson and St. Joes guards elite, I for one wonder about Pikes thought process.
Simpson. 18 points. 6 Rebounds 6 Assists, 2 Steals. 4-8 from 3. 2-2 from the line.
No trolling. Think Pike made a mistake. Think Simpson got a raw deal from RU fans.
Puzzled by love some players get and hate others get. Fair commentary in my opinion.
Just because you don’t like an opinion, that doesnt mean it’s trolling. Simpson until recently wasn’t starting. Think could have found a use for his foul shooting and D.
JMike got 26 minutes today. Gotta think Simpson would have fine with 26 minutes.
When opposing coaches call Simpson and St. Joes guards elite, I for one wonder about Pikes thought process.
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jMike is friends with Ace bailey and he didn't play bad today either. Good game by Simpson not sure what you think pike should have done? Force jMike out and tell ace no thanks? You really don't understand why Simpson received the heat he did last year? He was the no. 1 option, jMike is like the 4th or 5th..I say it's trolling because you act as if you don't understand that simple concept..
You seem fully committed to the idea that Pike ran Simpson out. I don't think anyone's buying that.
"Simpson until recently wasn't starting" - per college-reference.com, he's started every game this year for St. Joseph's.
I'm one who thinks we could have used Simpson here this year - but Simpson wanted to be elsewhere, so he's elsewhere.
Davis has seen 26 min in just 2 of 12 games so far this year, and >20 just 4 times out of 12. First off, I doubt Simpson would have been happy with that. Second, Simpson being on the roster would not have reduced Davis' minutes to zero, either - it'd just be one more guard mouth to feed.
Simpson made a good choice for Simpson - he's doing well where he's at. I'd have loved to have him as an option in our deeper rotation, but that just wasn't in the cards. You gotta let this one go, man.
Simpson is hands down better than Davis it’s not even close.
He was asked to do wayyy too much last year because Fernandes was a complete dud.
If Simpson was open to a reduced role this year with the ball in his hands much less than he would have done pretty well in this lineup imo.
He’s a slasher with great speed and could have open up holes for Ace / Dylan or gotten easy buckets. His defense is also much better than Davis.
Davis needs the talk this year after Ace is gone.
He was asked to do wayyy too much last year because Fernandes was a complete dud.
If Simpson was open to a reduced role this year with the ball in his hands much less than he would have done pretty well in this lineup imo.
He’s a slasher with great speed and could have open up holes for Ace / Dylan or gotten easy buckets. His defense is also much better than Davis.
Davis needs the talk this year after Ace is gone.
Derek always wanted the ball last year because we had nobody else who was capable. He was also put in this position by the staff.
We lost Paul, Fernandes sucked and Davis was a true frosh.
Agree if Simpson was open to a reduced role (15-20 min) with Rutgers this year, he'd have had a place within this lineup. He clearly didn't want that, and he's getting 32 min a game in his new spot. Good for him. But that's all water under the bridge at this point.
Just dropped 20? You mean when he did it in a loss 5 games ago? He's scored 21 combined since then. I agree, he's trying to find his role. My post, was more about how I don't think any of JWill, Derek, or JMike are perfect matches for what you want playing next to Dylan.
Mid major player. Good luck to him
Pike imported more of these players on the current roster
Granted Delaware State.
Nonetheless Simpson 12 points, 2 rebounds, 2 steals and 9 assists. That’s right nine!!!
Seems to have adjusted to his role as a playmaker at St. Joes!!
Just sayin’
Nonetheless Simpson 12 points, 2 rebounds, 2 steals and 9 assists. That’s right nine!!!
Seems to have adjusted to his role as a playmaker at St. Joes!!
Just sayin’
Glad to see Clang is playing well at a lower level school. News at 11.
9 assists nothing to shake a stick at it.
Nothing to see here. Lol
Amazing how you can get inside of Derek's head. Also amazing that with how bad we were last year and the influx of talent this year plus Ace and Dylan, that the results might end up the same.
Interesting that you never mention how many turnovers Simpson has each game
His assist to turnover ratio was quite good. I thought his handle was strong too.
The only issue was shooting and was only player who could create his own shot.
Griffiths just scores 8 points in like a minute of garbage time! Season point total up by almost 50%! Standing O from Nebraska bench!
Yep. Just think kid got a raw deal.
Mags mailed it in and this fan base turned on Simpson
Griffiths couldn’t get outta here fast enough and Simpson was the bad guy.
Davis does less and is a hero this year. Simpson sent out of town.
Think if fans had to do it over….
Mags mailed it in and this fan base turned on Simpson
Griffiths couldn’t get outta here fast enough and Simpson was the bad guy.
Davis does less and is a hero this year. Simpson sent out of town.
Think if fans had to do it over….
In an 81-72 win over UMass today, Simpson had a “subpar” game with 7 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal and 1 block shot. Dont think he has missed a foul shot in four games.
As one poster complained last week, I must note he had two turnovers.
As one poster complained last week, I must note he had two turnovers.
I don't see Simpson as a "bad guy" at all, least of all for leaving. Who thinks that?
Griffiths definitely got the "bad guy" label for leaving after saying he would never. Spencer got plenty of that, too. Mag got it for holding out for more NIL, then leaving
Simpson took flak for his poor shooting last year, but I don't remember anyone saying he was "the bad guy". His PT was immediately in doubt as soon as Harper committed, and it's not surprising he left for other opportunities.
If anything, I'm sure Pike and staff were much more direct and up front earlier in the off-season this year, making sure everyone knew what the expectations were around role and playing time with Harper/Bailey coming in
They didn't want to get burned again like they did the prior year with late decisions/departures from Spencer and Mulcahy.
They didn't want to get burned again like they did the prior year with late decisions/departures from Spencer and Mulcahy.
thanks.....saved me the trouble.....what. colonel kurtz and rice have in common "the horror, the horror" lol
At this point you're either trolling or living in a different universe than the rest of us.
Mag and Griffiths were (and still are) denigrated/bashed in an unrelenting way on this board.
Many Posters have called for Davis to never shoot and/or to be benched this season.
Do you even read this board or just make up shit to create a false narrative to support your point?
As fluoxtine posted : LET IT GO.
Simpson was very likely NOT "sent out of town," and the fans certainly had NOTHING to do with it.
What almost certainly happened is that Simpson was told his LIKELY role would be off the bench, behind Harper and Williams. Certainly, at that time Pikiell anticipated getting a stretch 4, 3-point shooter to play the "4", Bailey to start and play the "3" (WF), and Williams and Harper to start. Plus, Simpson would have to compete with Davis for reserve minutes - AND a "3" and D" player - a wing/guard scorer to be brought in from the portal.
ALMOST CERTAINLY (and yes, I do not know what was in Simpson's mind, but even so, it seems obvious) Simpson determined he wished to play starter's minutes, 28-32 mpg, not be a reserve and even compete for reserve minutes behind Williams and Harper (60 mpg expected for those 2 out of 80 minutes at the PG/2G slots). And to do that he stepped DOWN a level, to St. Joes and the Atlantic 10. NO CONDEMNATION FROM ME.
Hat's off to him for having a better season than he did last year (and he was awful, for the most part - forgetting any comparison to Davis - not relevant).
NOW you might be able to say RU might be better off with Simpson starting than Davis - but Davis starting was NEVER the plan. Pikiell was forced to do so for at least 2 reasons, maybe more:
1) Martini, the expected PF starter, has not been able to perform well enough to hold the starting position - either in practice or in games (he did start 5 games - but has lost that role completely).
2) RU's defense has been so putrid (because Hayes, Martini, Acuff cannot defend at all, and Derkack has been spotty) Pikiell was forced to insert Davis into the starting line-up - and since PSU Davis has mostly fulfilled that role.
3) Acuff's injury set him back a LOT - this is more like a guess on my part. Reports in practice before Acuff broke his foot was that he was playing well, and was positioned to be the 6th or 7th man off the bench to provide scoring punch (not to start). But he just has not looked the part so far - is he still rounding into shape (would not be unheard of for a foot injury - to be healthy enough to play, but not yet be 100% of where you were before the injury)? Or is he just a "fail."
Simpson did what was best for him, going somewhere he would get more PT, which in turn affects his NIL value for the following season.
I think Simpson would certainly had stayed if he started and was getting the minutes JMike is now getting.
The idea that there is a huge drop to the A10 is silly and many of you paying way too much weight on that. Yes it’s a lesser league but year in and year out it’s still a pretty good hoops league. His versatility and foul shooting is missed.
If you don’t think Simpson was sent out of town, encouraged…. We are just arguing semantics.
Agree on Acuff. Hope he gets healthy again when school restarts. He may be the key to the season. The two threes the other night has to be good for confidence.
Griffith has become that walk on that fans cheer to get in the last minute of garbage time
But he wouldn't have started, just as Davis didn't start. And Davis is only starting right now because of struggles of portal players - and an overall lack of team defense. If you'd told Simpson "you won't start until game 10, and you'll average 16.5 min over the first 13 games" - I really doubt he'd have stayed.
And yes, the A10 is a big dropoff from the B1G. There are just 3 teams in bart's top 70 (44 Dayton, 49 VCU, 59 St. Bonaventure) and 5 ranked below 150 (3 ranked below 200). 13 B1G schools are ahead of the A10's top program. For some comparison, Rutgers is 80th and 16th out of 18 teams in the B1G. St. Joseph's is 87th and 5th out of 15.
Simpson saw the writing on the wall. He wasn't pushed, he jumped. And he landed in a good situation for himself - which means he made the right call.
