Because they are apples to elephants. Every time some form of cheating, drugs, domestic abuse ... Is in the news cycle the Pete Rose crap comes up like it's equal. It's not!! It's not even close. And to say it is, is just dumb. Gambling and fixing games can bring down a sport. Now more than ever. Pete got what he deserved. People defending him to this day are plain nuts.
Espn today reporting that in one “analysts” opinion, everyone is going to rat on everyone going forward.
You dismissed my statement without thinking about it. White-collar crimes have more of an impact on society than an individual murder, but yet we have conditioned ourselves to think murder is far worse. I think the punishment should be as severe as Pete Rose. Pete got what he deserved, but the Astros got off with a slap on the hand. This is a classic case of swallow elephants whole while choking on gnats. The Astros (& Red Sox) should vacate their WS championships. The ban on the GM and manager should be longer because it doesn't stop people from trying it again. Add another year to lost draft picks to make them really feel the pain for such actions.
I dismissed your statement because you don't get it. And now with this statement I see you still don't get it.
Is you middle name Stubborn by chance? [roll]
With any issue like this their are always degrees of culpability by those involved. I’m not disputing he was a ringleader but it doesn’t appear baseball will be suspending any players or determining levels of involvement.
This is a message board with opinions. There is no right or wrong. Let's agree to disagree.
They do. And many in baseball saying they do if they allow Beltran to manage club.
That is plain silly. Astros and Red Sox (if found guilty) as well as MLB own this scandal. Unless something comes out Mets were doing the same thing, they do not own this scandal. That's similar to the old Tarkanian line where the NCAA was so mad at Kentucky for their violations they punished Cleveland State. Yes, lets punish the Mets for Astros/Red Sox violations.
No one will punish the Mets. Just Beltran must go. He should be suspended and the Mets should do the right thing and not allow him to manage the club. He disgraced and damaged the game of baseball and the games integrity and cheated at the highest level. No other profession would allow you to lead their organization.
Not familiar with how the pitches were being tipped, but I think everything anybody has said has been consistent around using technology to do it in real time. If you study and analyze film? Fair game. Steal Signs with runners on? Fair Game. Its on you to protect your signs and change things up.
Then it wouldn't be first hand info. He said he had first hand info. He wasn't there so he had no first hand info. So he just has speculation or tales from someone else.
Has to be the stupidest comment of the year!! Did stealing signs allow players to hit 73 HR's? plenty with 60+ also. Stealing signs isn't a pimple on the ASS of a Steroid user. So dumb, I can't even put it into words much better.
I must really be a fool then, because if I'm traded to a new club, and one of the players "involved" tells him, " be ready for this shit show, because this is what their doing", that would be 1st hand knowledge, wouldn't it? Is it possible that's what he meant?
No, when someone says they have first hand knowledge means they saw it themselves. Being told by someone else is not first hand knowledge. He wasn't on any of those teams. He has zero first hand knowledge.
I would think that 1st hand knowledge means you were there. 2nd or 3rd hand knowledge depends upon how many degrees of Kevin Bacon you have to go beyond to confirm such info.
Nope, once he became a Yankee, he was washed over by Our Lady of Lourdes
The NY reporters will ask about this. He isn't free and clear. They should also ask him how Verlander and Morton suddenly became aces when they joined the Astros. Do you really think they only cheated at sign stealing??
we're not sweet and innocent. We just know your franchise sucks and you will forever be little brother or red headed step child. Which ever one makes you feel worse. :LaughingDon't hate us for it. We're both still linked by Rutgers- I've just tasted success through Yankees, Giants, Devils- fandoms. Hopefully you aren't stuck in Mets & Jets hell.
