OT: Electric vehicles
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No they can't since battery cells are the limiting factor. People clamoring for Tesla to have more models don't get this. Tesla could have 10 different models, but it would not increase the total # of vehicles they are able to produce.
CT has been delayed because of the slow ramp of 4680 cells. I'm sure the pandemic played a role as well.
Simplify is the name of the game in EVs. We just heard Farley of Ford state the same. Ford wants to reduce their vehicle models in an effort to simplify manufacturing and supply chain. Smart. Contrast that with Barra of GM boasting about 30 different EV models by 2025. Stupid.
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So, maybe the stone throwers at Ford can calm the F down and stop being so smug and childish about short term losses. Two can play that game and laugh at Tesla's very long CT rollout and the nonending list of excuses. This post is not really directed at you, but to to others. But one guy in this thread has a tendency to be douchey on these boards about a lot of topics. Some sort of overcompensation for a personality defect or something like that.
I just can't fathom why GM would hire Barra and not you. Surely you'd have GM purring like a well lubricated EV motor right now. 😉
Ooh, I hope you're talking about me, seeing as how I claimed the board douchebag spot for myself years ago and guard its use jealously.
But I'm troubled by something you said. You said "a personality defect". And I want to know why you didn't say a bundle of personality defects? A multitude even. Just saying one personality defect is problematic.
Because now all my personality defects are now engaged in a vicious inner debate to determine which was the one you noticed. Such megalomaniacal personality defects they are, each trying to dominate the others. My personality defects are so bad that they each have personality defects of their own.
It's tough being me. 🙂
It's not a pleasant sound to my ears, that's true. However, if the goal is to alert people, it probably shouldn't be a very pleasant sound, no?
You and I probably share a love of well tuned exhausts and mechanical engine sounds and so forth. But I'm sure lots of people find those unpleasant too. Although in that case, it's probably more a decibel-level thing than the pitch and timbre.
Using PlugShare App, it appears that NJ is way ahead of Staten Island in the installation of Charging Stations. A 12 station bank of Tesla chargers, which appear to be installed by the city, is sitting waiting to get final approval to open up. Not too many non-Tesla chargers around.
There are a few sets of free chargers at the SI Mall. I've yet to see any chargers of any kind at a gas station or convenience store.
I think parking decks, parking lots, and anywhere there's a parking meter along the street, should be a focus for charger installation. Or rather, I think if they were a focus, it would lead to even more rapid EV adoption because it empowers (pun intended) people whose living situations preclude at home charging to buy an EV.
There are tons of people in this country living in cities and many of those people have no way to charge an EV at home. Focusing on making parking decks/lots and street parking public charging locations would help, if not solve, that problem.
Once I installed a level 2 at home, have not use a charging station since.
Like most of us. Only time I use a public charging station is when I go to the free chargers at the Mall. That's only when I need to go to the Mall and if I actually need a charge.
I now have Time-of-use rates from ConEd which costs me 2.5 cent/kWh when I charge midnight to 8am using L1 charging. I have no need for L2 charging for the limited daily driving I do in my PHEV.
Edited to change 8pm to 8am. ooops !
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I was using a regular 110v outlet for the first month before having my level 2 installed. Certainly not ideal, but doable. 110v adds ~5 mi range/hour. Did a weekend out of state at an air bnb, brought my level 1 charger, charged at the house we were staying, and never had to stop for charging.
I did that when I only had the ID4. It does give you range anxiety when it charges that slowly.
A Rivian customer waited 3 years for his dream car. It died within days.
Two days after it arrived, Chase Merrill's electric R1S SUV was bricked in the snow. The company said it would cost $2,100 to transport for repairs.
I laughed reading this. Can’t believe the stupid truck can’t go through 4+ feet of snow and allowed itself to be bricked by the owner’s mistake. I’m also shocked there is a waitlist for EV trucks. Stupid Rivian.
That may have been Brother Skinny. I saw a Rivian pickup last weekend parked , nice looking vehicle except for headlights
A Rivian customer waited 3 years for his dream car. It died within days.
Two days after it arrived, Chase Merrill's electric R1S SUV was bricked in the snow. The company said it would cost $2,100 to transport for repairs.www.yahoo.com
I laughed reading this. Can’t believe the stupid truck can’t go through 4+ feet of snow and allowed itself to be bricked by the owner’s mistake. I’m also shocked there is a waitlist for EV trucks. Stupid Rivian.
They outnumber the Lighting 3 to 1 in my town. The R1S (SUV) model will sell well here.
A Rivian customer waited 3 years for his dream car. It died within days.
Two days after it arrived, Chase Merrill's electric R1S SUV was bricked in the snow. The company said it would cost $2,100 to transport for repairs.
I laughed reading this. Can’t believe the stupid truck can’t go through 4+ feet of snow and allowed itself to be bricked by the owner’s mistake. I’m also shocked there is a waitlist for EV trucks. Stupid Rivian.
Ya know, it's funny except that it's not. The annals of Top Gear are loaded with segments demonstrating that most popular AWD SUVs can not climb a hill of any size and easily get stuck in the snow - the BMW X3 and X5 are especially bad. The exception? Audi. There's one episode where they drive an Audi up a ski jump hill.
Lots of Rivians are popping up in my area. They look amazing. Bunch of Polestars as well.
The Polestar 2 is SWEET. Just a little short on range with the amped-up version. 270 stated, but practically more like 220-240. Just not enough.
No way an Audi can move in 2.5 feet of snow. Most 4x4s without proper equipment can’t do it. We are not talking about packed snow covered road.
“Chase Merrill”? Is his middle name “Fargo”?A Rivian customer waited 3 years for his dream car. It died within days.
Two days after it arrived, Chase Merrill's electric R1S SUV was bricked in the snow. The company said it would cost $2,100 to transport for repairs.
I laughed reading this. Can’t believe the stupid truck can’t go through 4+ feet of snow and allowed itself to be bricked by the owner’s mistake. I’m also shocked there is a waitlist for EV trucks. Stupid Rivian.
The name alone makes the article look like it was published 7 days early by accident.
Who said anything about 2.5 feet of snow? The point that I was making is that most mass-market luxury SUVs can't move in any amount of snow if the road isn't flat.
This was predictable. Since it’s a moderate measure, I think it’ll prove wise.
apnews.com
Germany, EU reach agreement in combustion engine row
Germany and the European Union say they have reached an agreement in their dispute over the future of cars with combustion engines, allowing the registration of new vehicles with such engines even after 2035 if they use climate-neutral fuel only.
apnews.com
This is no yoking matter.
According to this article, the steering wheel retrofit for the yoke has sold out due to its enormous popularity. Shocking news.
jalopnik.com
According to this article, the steering wheel retrofit for the yoke has sold out due to its enormous popularity. Shocking news.
Tesla Sells Out of Steering Wheels as Owners Rush to Replace the Yoke
After telling us all the yoke was the future of steering, Tesla backtracked and offered to retrofit a regular wheel to its Model S and X EVs.
jalopnik.com
"Electricity transmission" is going to save the country $1.2 Trillion that the so called Inflation Reduction Act costs as Goldman Sachs has confirmed?
Inflation Reduction Act to cost US $1.2 trillion, Goldman Sachs says
President Biden's Inflation Reduction Act will cost brought three times the estimated figure at about $1.2 trillion, according to an analysis.
Think it was the winter of 94, that I got my Grand Wagoneer stuck in a 2 foot snow storm.
Snow above the bumper, just couldn't push through it.
As I was trying to work my way out of it, I think moisture got up in the distributor and everything shut down. Started up fine the next day.
OK, newbie to this thread. I got a Lucid Air last yr and this year we're going to give up my wife's MB SUV and go full electric. She test drove the Tesla Y and liked it.
A few questions:
-how is the service experience with Tesla (there doesn't seem to be a service center near us in Morristown)?
-any other competitors to look at in the small EV SUV space to look at?
A few questions:
-how is the service experience with Tesla (there doesn't seem to be a service center near us in Morristown)?
-any other competitors to look at in the small EV SUV space to look at?
There are a lot of small SUV models out there. But not all models are available for immediate delivery. Model Y is a great choice and can be delivered in a month or so. My personal favorite in terms of styling is Kia EV 6.
A hybrid 4Runner is intriguing. But the styling shown in the article is not, IMO.
www.motortrend.com
Next-Gen 2025 Toyota 4Runner Will Have Hybrid Powertrain
The next-generation Toyota 4Runner will offer an electrified powertrain, along with a settled ride and better fuel economy.
This was predictable. Since it’s a moderate measure, I think it’ll prove wise.
Germany, EU reach agreement in combustion engine row
Germany and the European Union say they have reached an agreement in their dispute over the future of cars with combustion engines, allowing the registration of new vehicles with such engines even after 2035 if they use climate-neutral fuel only.
The EU decided to redefine what constitutes a zero-emission/carbon-neutral fuel.
A few thoughts. My wife and I have owned our Y for 2 1/2 years. The only maintenance was to replace a cabin air filter. A Tesla tech came to my house to replace the filter. (The filter is surprisingly hard to get to - IMO, more than a typical DYI work.
The car was hit by a tow hitch, so we took it to a local body shop. There are a lot of Teslas where I live, so it was no problem getting the front end fixed and the camera replaced by a reputable and knowledgeable body shop. Third-party repair shops can work on the Teslas, so I'd check around to see if there's a place you trust that specializes on Telsas. However, there are so few moving parts, there isn't much that can go wrong compared to an ICE vehicle. In any case, here's a link to show where you might take a Tesla to be repaired.
Collision Support | Tesla
Tesla Approved Body Shops have been factory trained and equipped to rebuild Tesla vehicles to the original vehicle specifications for structural integrity and quality of finish.
www.tesla.com
As for other EVs, the Ford Mustang Mach-E and VW ID.4 have gotten a number of good reviews.
If 4Runner does a Wrangler/Bronco variant (open top), it would kill it.A hybrid 4Runner is intriguing. But the styling shown in the article is not, IMO.
Next-Gen 2025 Toyota 4Runner Will Have Hybrid Powertrain
The next-generation Toyota 4Runner will offer an electrified powertrain, along with a settled ride and better fuel economy.
We charged a non-Tesla at a Supercharger. Here's how it went
We took our long-term 2022 Kia EV6 to a Tesla Supercharger in New York to see what it's like.
www.autoblog.com
The best service is no service.
Really not much that needs to be done with EVs, or at least my model 3 after 3 years. Tires can be done anywhere. Washer fluid and air cabin filter is a DIY. Air cabin filter is a little tricky to get to, but I was able to manage. My only trip to the service center was for a 12V battery replacement, but you won't have to worry about that since newer Teslas come with a Li-ion 12V which should last for the life of the vehicle. My 2019 M3 still had the lead-acid 12V. And, as stated above, mobile service is a big plus if you need it.
Scheduling service is done right through the phone app. Easy and responsive. My car gave a warning that the 12V needed replacement. I contacted roadside assistance through the app to find out if it was still safe to drive with the 12V warning and roughly how much life was left in the battery. Service rep got back to me immediately via text. Said i could go up to 3 weeks, but wouldn't push it past 1 week to be on the safe side, especially in winter.
It’s an early example of what I expect will be a series of short-term concessions to reality made by governments in Europe and the US, and perhaps some parts of Asia. Hopefully we’ll also see, within a handful of years, greatly increased commitment to funding massive forestation efforts, since that can have a massive measurable impact.
I’m happy with the progress being made on reducing human carbon production on a number of fronts. EVs are a big part of that. But it’s gonna be a very long time before humanity achieves a zero human emissions world. Maybe never. It might not be realistically achievable and probably isn’t necessary.
The goal is balance or carbon neutrality and there are likely going to be many different ways to get there. It seems very unwise to insist on ideological purity along the way as that always has a tendency to cause extreme pushback, which would be unhelpful.
How are you liking the Lucid? I've been seeing more and more of them on the road around central NJ. They look great from the outside.
Lots of small SUV EVs now. Kia has some that seem well-liked by the automotive press. The Audi e-Tron has been around for a while. The Ford EV SUV (I won’t refer to it as a mustang LOL). Porsche is putting out an electric Macan this year I think, at some point. Genesis has one, not sure if it's started selling yet.
I think the Genesis stuff looks really great, except for their wheel designs which I would replace immediately upon buying one. EV designers have a thing for butt-ugly wheels.
I think the Tesla forums are a much better resource from which to learn all about the Tesla service experience than this thread. Simply due to the vastly larger amount of owners. From what I’ve read from Tesla owners across several forums, their service experiences produce mixed reviews just like every other manufacturer.
The thing about researching service is that most cars these days don’t really need much service until they’re either aging some (6+ years) or get driven a ton (60K miles). Before that it’s mostly simple standard stuff like tires and air filters (or oil changes in ICEVs). All very formulaic and not much to go wrong.
It's mostly after that point where other stuff can start breaking or wearing out in the suspensions, depending on how one drives. And by then, a lot of folks who posted in forums after initially buying their car, with all that new car excitement, tend to have long stopped posting.
@Knight Shift
read that Rivian will activate their 2 way inverter so it can be used as a generator. I might have to trade in my lighting for a R1S. It’s just a more practical SUV for me. But will wait and see if they can pull it off 1st.
read that Rivian will activate their 2 way inverter so it can be used as a generator. I might have to trade in my lighting for a R1S. It’s just a more practical SUV for me. But will wait and see if they can pull it off 1st.
Styling looks more like an FJ Cruiser revival than a 4Runner. But guess that doesn't matter since it's just a MT rendering.A hybrid 4Runner is intriguing. But the styling shown in the article is not, IMO.
Next-Gen 2025 Toyota 4Runner Will Have Hybrid Powertrain
The next-generation Toyota 4Runner will offer an electrified powertrain, along with a settled ride and better fuel economy.
Article is about as useful as the rendering, but I'd be all over a 4Runner hybrid. Already thinking about the Sequoia, and a 4Runner would make a nice dealership comp.
Makes sense given what they've been doing with other trucks and SUVs.
