I have a 220 hook up in my garage and can get to a full charge in 3 hours. It’s great for around town. I did consider an EV but I was hung up on range. Many dealers like Audi are basically giving EVs away. They can’t move them without massive incentives.
OT: Electric vehicles
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getting worse too and all the cold weather does is highlight the negatives.
I'm sure at some time in the future we'll have something that is efficient and practical but EV isn't it, not yet.
Estrogen Vehicles also cost more to insure in addition to being more expensive for the class of car.
www.businessinsider.com
That shiny new electric car you bought will cost more to insure — here's why
Insuring your brand-new electric vehicle might cost more, but there are a few reasons why that's okay.
www.businessinsider.com
Imagine caring so hard about a type of car people like.
Are you this butthurt over people who use electric landscaping tools?
Such whiny beta behavior. PMSing hard.
Are you this butthurt over people who use electric landscaping tools?
Such whiny beta behavior. PMSing hard.
I make fun of people who are crying over gas powered tools too. Let me guess. You are one of those guys?
Estrogen Vehicle really got you eh?
Estrogen Vehicle really got you eh?
People liking cars types isn't a problem - its Chinese and Russian backed "faux-green" groups forcing US off its energy sources. Hillary even admitted:
" [the State Department and the U.S. government] were up against Russia pushing oligarchs and others to buy media. We were even up against phony environmental groups, and I'm a big environmentalist, but these were funded by the Russians to stand up against any effort, 'Oh that pipeline, that fracking, that whatever will be a problem for you,' and a lot of that money supporting that effort was coming from Russia."
Putin Is Funding Green Groups to Discredit Fracking
Russia's Gazprom stands to benefit from reduced natural gas production in the U.S.
www.newsweek.com
China has no energy resources and they get BlackRock (desperate to do business in China) to cripple US by forcing ESG into corporate boardrooms. CCP knows Americans aren't very smart anymore so they get them to abandon their energy AND get them to buy CCP electric stuff. Spectacular.
1000s of acres of trees, grass etc are cut to put in solar panels that are full of plastic and toxic to make - and to dispose of. Then the green turkeys come at you with programs to cut plastic - its stunning.
NY shutdown Indian Point without a replacement. Oh they promised 100 green energy things were on the way. But they aren't because the same people pushing the green wrecked the economy.
Electric cars are fine if the markets create them. The top-down jamming of energy disability to float half-baked green boondoggles is one of the dumbest things in history. The pols push all for the money and power in it - dint give a rat's tootie about environment. America being clubbed like a baby seal.
Wind shore farm of over 100 turbines CANCELLED for New York
MSN
www.msn.com
Always a con at the end of the rainbow..,,
The Electric-Vehicle Cheating Scandal
A government rule makes them look nearly seven times as efficient as they are.
EV owners rejoice--nobody going to try to steal our batteries! Catalytic converter theft is rampant. Relies on mined precious metals. Where's the outrage?
starnewsgroup.com
Wall police target catalytic converter thefts following 2023 uptick
WALL TOWNSHIP — Wall Township police are deploying a stepped-up effort to combat thefts of catalytic converters from vehicles, a nationwide criminal trend dri
starnewsgroup.com
Battery recycling is already happening and only going to grow. EVs will win out in the long run.
spectrum.ieee.org
Battery Resourcers:This Worcester, Mass., startup, a spin-off of Worcester Polytechnic Institute, is focused on making new cathode powders for lithium-ion batteries from postindustrial scrap.
Brunp Recycling Technology Co.:A subsidiary of the leading Li-ion battery maker CATL, Brunp is the largest recycler of those batteries in Asia (and therefore the world). Its new plant in China’s Hunan province reportedly can recycle 100,000 metric tons of lithium-ion battery scrap per year.
Ganfeng Lithium:The Chinese Li-ion battery maker plans to build a battery-recycling plant in Mexico, to sell minerals to electric-vehicle makers and suppliers, including Tesla and South Korea’s LG Chem.
Green Li-ion:The Singapore startup will open its second recycling plant in early 2021, which focuses on recycling Li-ion battery cathodes that are “99.9 percent pure.”
Li-Cycle: Later this year, the Canadian firm will begin constructing a US $175 million recycling plant in Rochester, N.Y. When finished it will be North America’s largest Li-ion–battery resource-recovery facility.
Northvolt:This Swedish battery startup, founded by former Tesla executives in 2016, already has an experimental recycling plant up and running and, with aluminum company Hydro, plans to open an 8,000-metric-ton-per-year recycling plant in Norway this year.
Primobius:This joint venture of Australia’s Neometals and Germany’s SMS Group will demonstrate Neometal’s proprietary recycling method with plans to scale up commercially in Europe.
ReCell Center:Funded through a 3-year, $15 million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy’s Vehicle Technologies Office, this research center is focused on longer-term methods such as direct cathode recycling.
Redwood Materials:Cofounded in 2017 by former Tesla CTO J.B. Straubel, the Carson, Nev., startup has positioned itself as a raw-materials supplier and will recycle electronic waste generally. It’s among five initial recipients from Amazon’s $2 billion Climate Pledge Fund.
ReLIB:Comparable to the U.S. ReCell Center, this R&D collaboration based at the Faraday Institution in Birmingham, England, is focused on improving the efficiency of EV battery recycling in the United Kingdom.
SMCC Recycling:A joint venture of South Korea’s SungEel HiTech Co., a battery recycler, and Metallica Commodities Corp., the company plans to open an “environmentally friendly” 5,000-metric-ton Li-ion recycling plant in Endicott, N.Y.
Tesla:For the past couple of years, Elon Musk has hinted that the EV maker will recycle its own batteries. Now it has reportedly begun doing so in China, where phase 2 of its Shanghai Gigafactory is wrapping up.
Umicore: A leading materials recycler with 11,000 employees worldwide, Umicore has since 2017 focused on “clean mobility,” including the recycling of all components of electric vehicles. Its Hoboken, Belgium, plant can handle 7,000 metric tons of Li-ion batteries a year.
Lithium-Ion Battery Recycling Finally Takes Off in North America and Europe
Li-Cycle, Northvolt, and Ganfeng Lithium are among those building recycling plants, spurred by environmental and supply-chain concerns
spectrum.ieee.org
4 Li-ion Battery-Recycling Projects to Watch
American Battery Technology:As part of this company’s focus on mining, extracting, and recycling lithium and other battery materials, it plans to open a battery-metals recycling plant in Incline Village, Nev., with an eventual capacity of 20,000 metric tons of scrap materials and end-of-life batteries per year.Battery Resourcers:This Worcester, Mass., startup, a spin-off of Worcester Polytechnic Institute, is focused on making new cathode powders for lithium-ion batteries from postindustrial scrap.
Brunp Recycling Technology Co.:A subsidiary of the leading Li-ion battery maker CATL, Brunp is the largest recycler of those batteries in Asia (and therefore the world). Its new plant in China’s Hunan province reportedly can recycle 100,000 metric tons of lithium-ion battery scrap per year.
Ganfeng Lithium:The Chinese Li-ion battery maker plans to build a battery-recycling plant in Mexico, to sell minerals to electric-vehicle makers and suppliers, including Tesla and South Korea’s LG Chem.
Green Li-ion:The Singapore startup will open its second recycling plant in early 2021, which focuses on recycling Li-ion battery cathodes that are “99.9 percent pure.”
Li-Cycle: Later this year, the Canadian firm will begin constructing a US $175 million recycling plant in Rochester, N.Y. When finished it will be North America’s largest Li-ion–battery resource-recovery facility.
Northvolt:This Swedish battery startup, founded by former Tesla executives in 2016, already has an experimental recycling plant up and running and, with aluminum company Hydro, plans to open an 8,000-metric-ton-per-year recycling plant in Norway this year.
Primobius:This joint venture of Australia’s Neometals and Germany’s SMS Group will demonstrate Neometal’s proprietary recycling method with plans to scale up commercially in Europe.
ReCell Center:Funded through a 3-year, $15 million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy’s Vehicle Technologies Office, this research center is focused on longer-term methods such as direct cathode recycling.
Redwood Materials:Cofounded in 2017 by former Tesla CTO J.B. Straubel, the Carson, Nev., startup has positioned itself as a raw-materials supplier and will recycle electronic waste generally. It’s among five initial recipients from Amazon’s $2 billion Climate Pledge Fund.
ReLIB:Comparable to the U.S. ReCell Center, this R&D collaboration based at the Faraday Institution in Birmingham, England, is focused on improving the efficiency of EV battery recycling in the United Kingdom.
SMCC Recycling:A joint venture of South Korea’s SungEel HiTech Co., a battery recycler, and Metallica Commodities Corp., the company plans to open an “environmentally friendly” 5,000-metric-ton Li-ion recycling plant in Endicott, N.Y.
Tesla:For the past couple of years, Elon Musk has hinted that the EV maker will recycle its own batteries. Now it has reportedly begun doing so in China, where phase 2 of its Shanghai Gigafactory is wrapping up.
Umicore: A leading materials recycler with 11,000 employees worldwide, Umicore has since 2017 focused on “clean mobility,” including the recycling of all components of electric vehicles. Its Hoboken, Belgium, plant can handle 7,000 metric tons of Li-ion batteries a year.
I don’t do my own yardwork and don’t have an electric car you beta cuck
You’re overthinking this one.People liking cars types isn't a problem - its Chinese and Russian backed "faux-green" groups forcing US off its energy sources. Hillary even admitted:
" [the State Department and the U.S. government] were up against Russia pushing oligarchs and others to buy media. We were even up against phony environmental groups, and I'm a big environmentalist, but these were funded by the Russians to stand up against any effort, 'Oh that pipeline, that fracking, that whatever will be a problem for you,' and a lot of that money supporting that effort was coming from Russia."
Putin Is Funding Green Groups to Discredit Fracking
Russia's Gazprom stands to benefit from reduced natural gas production in the U.S.
China has no energy resources and they get BlackRock (desperate to do business in China) to cripple US by forcing ESG into corporate boardrooms. CCP knows Americans aren't very smart anymore so they get them to abandon their energy AND get them to buy CCP electric stuff. Spectacular.
1000s of acres of trees, grass etc are cut to put in solar panels that are full of plastic and toxic to make - and to dispose of. Then the green turkeys come at you with programs to cut plastic - its stunning.
NY shutdown Indian Point without a replacement. Oh they promised 100 green energy things were on the way. But they aren't because the same people pushing the green wrecked the economy.
Electric cars are fine if the markets create them. The top-down jamming of energy disability to float half-baked green boondoggles is one of the dumbest things in history. The pols push all for the money and power in it - dint give a rat's tootie about environment. America being clubbed like a baby seal.
Wind shore farm of over 100 turbines CANCELLED for New York
MSN
www.msn.com
And solar being bad for the environment 😂
Paywalled articles are useless. Link below details the story, and is readable. This is a big problem. Similar to other problems with this Administration pushing false narratives and showing an inability to admit they got caught, were wrong and to walk back their false narratives. Really poor by the progressives. Losers. The irony is they made the man many of them hate, Elon Musk, much richer with this scheme. That's kind of funny in a perverse way.
Biden Caught in Huge Rigging of EV Carbon Credits at Taxpayer Expense
Tesla is a huge beneficiary of an illegal Biden-administration subsidy. This is a massive scandal reminiscent of the diesel-emissions cheating that rocked Germany.
mishtalk.com
It's funny to see all these triggered people over someone's choice of a vehicle. So emotional. It's always best to separate emotions from analysis of facts. Have stated it numerous times above---there are issues to work through with EVs. Lots of them. Government mandates always such and are wrong. Always disfavor them. What this administration did is take an exciting and viable new technology and turned it into a political football. That was stupid, but not surprising.
That’s nice that your husband does it for you.
I own stock in the first company on that list. I made really good money on it in 2020(under a different company name and ticker), sold it, got back in it and it's been an absolute dog.Battery recycling is already happening and only going to grow. EVs will win out in the long run.
Lithium-Ion Battery Recycling Finally Takes Off in North America and Europe
Li-Cycle, Northvolt, and Ganfeng Lithium are among those building recycling plants, spurred by environmental and supply-chain concerns
4 Li-ion Battery-Recycling Projects to Watch
American Battery Technology:As part of this company’s focus on mining, extracting, and recycling lithium and other battery materials, it plans to open a battery-metals recycling plant in Incline Village, Nev., with an eventual capacity of 20,000 metric tons of scrap materials and end-of-life batteries per year.
Battery Resourcers:This Worcester, Mass., startup, a spin-off of Worcester Polytechnic Institute, is focused on making new cathode powders for lithium-ion batteries from postindustrial scrap.
Brunp Recycling Technology Co.:A subsidiary of the leading Li-ion battery maker CATL, Brunp is the largest recycler of those batteries in Asia (and therefore the world). Its new plant in China’s Hunan province reportedly can recycle 100,000 metric tons of lithium-ion battery scrap per year.
Ganfeng Lithium:The Chinese Li-ion battery maker plans to build a battery-recycling plant in Mexico, to sell minerals to electric-vehicle makers and suppliers, including Tesla and South Korea’s LG Chem.
Green Li-ion:The Singapore startup will open its second recycling plant in early 2021, which focuses on recycling Li-ion battery cathodes that are “99.9 percent pure.”
Li-Cycle: Later this year, the Canadian firm will begin constructing a US $175 million recycling plant in Rochester, N.Y. When finished it will be North America’s largest Li-ion–battery resource-recovery facility.
Northvolt:This Swedish battery startup, founded by former Tesla executives in 2016, already has an experimental recycling plant up and running and, with aluminum company Hydro, plans to open an 8,000-metric-ton-per-year recycling plant in Norway this year.
Primobius:This joint venture of Australia’s Neometals and Germany’s SMS Group will demonstrate Neometal’s proprietary recycling method with plans to scale up commercially in Europe.
ReCell Center:Funded through a 3-year, $15 million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy’s Vehicle Technologies Office, this research center is focused on longer-term methods such as direct cathode recycling.
Redwood Materials:Cofounded in 2017 by former Tesla CTO J.B. Straubel, the Carson, Nev., startup has positioned itself as a raw-materials supplier and will recycle electronic waste generally. It’s among five initial recipients from Amazon’s $2 billion Climate Pledge Fund.
ReLIB:Comparable to the U.S. ReCell Center, this R&D collaboration based at the Faraday Institution in Birmingham, England, is focused on improving the efficiency of EV battery recycling in the United Kingdom.
SMCC Recycling:A joint venture of South Korea’s SungEel HiTech Co., a battery recycler, and Metallica Commodities Corp., the company plans to open an “environmentally friendly” 5,000-metric-ton Li-ion recycling plant in Endicott, N.Y.
Tesla:For the past couple of years, Elon Musk has hinted that the EV maker will recycle its own batteries. Now it has reportedly begun doing so in China, where phase 2 of its Shanghai Gigafactory is wrapping up.
Umicore: A leading materials recycler with 11,000 employees worldwide, Umicore has since 2017 focused on “clean mobility,” including the recycling of all components of electric vehicles. Its Hoboken, Belgium, plant can handle 7,000 metric tons of Li-ion batteries a year.
As noted, still not actually recycling batteries, though I think the structure for the facility is complete.
Paywalled articles are useless. Link below details the story, and is readable. This is a big problem. Similar to other problems with this Administration pushing false narratives and showing an inability to admit they got caught, were wrong and to walk back their false narratives. Really poor by the progressives. Losers. The irony is they made the man many of them hate, Elon Musk, much richer with this scheme. That's kind of funny in a perverse way.
Biden Caught in Huge Rigging of EV Carbon Credits at Taxpayer Expense
Tesla is a huge beneficiary of an illegal Biden-administration subsidy. This is a massive scandal reminiscent of the diesel-emissions cheating that rocked Germany.
I figured an elitist like you would have a WSJ subscription.
Nice try pivoting to Tesla. You and all the other EV owners are beneficiaries of the illegal subsidies as well.
Is there some sort of reward system in place for post's which contain the word "triggered" ?
Why don't you GFY in a circle jerk with the other aholes in this thread? Jeez, what a JO you are. Hating on people for the type of car they own. That's rich.
Always the emotional overreaction. Can't handle a few facts.
Did you have some kind of brain injury? Vaccine side effects?
290 pages of mostly fun convivial discussion with nothing more than the usual FB board bickering.
One CE jailbreak and now the thread is turned to total shit.
One CE jailbreak and now the thread is turned to total shit.
Lol Kerry and fellow ghouls triggered over misinformation..so great
Stop whining, do you think you free boarders own threads? #cePTSD
If the administration had a clue they would have realized that vehicle subsidies are putting the cart before the horse. Investment in battery technology and charging infrastructure should be the top priorities because without either of those you will never get meaningful EV adoption. It’s the equivalent of funding steam locomotives in the 1800s without a nationwide railway infrastructure. If anyone on this thread (outside of EV lovers) actually paid attention to the number of public charging stations you would be shocked. There are parking lots with thousands of spaces and yet you will be lucky to find anywhere from 2-10 charging stations. I’ve even seen some newer retail strip malls that didn’t bother to install any which was shocking to me because I would imagine it’s waaaaaaay cheaper to do it when they first break ground.
the only triggered person here is you. I'm rarely in this thread but the one drama queen that is a constant is you. your earlier post all but confirms how utterly ridiculous and at a loss to articulate a well reasoned position that you profane to understand. the only triggered fool in this entire thread is you, take solace in that
to the rest of the hive, some good points on both sides. I personally don't think EV is efficient enough....yet....
I went with electric leaf blower and some other yard tools. One, the gas powered blowers were a pain in the ass to maintain, sometimes you smelled like shit after from the exhaust, and the number of times I went out to blow leaves and realized my gas can was empty and I had to run to the gas station was annoying.
Conversely, I do have a gas powered Ariens snowblower. I see they now have electric ones but I don't trust them at this point.
Which reminds me, do I have gas in the gas can for the snowblower?
agree.
@Richard Schnyderite can you please block Caliknight and Proud NJ Sports Fan from this thread?
They completely derailed it.
The electric ones aren't going to be comparable to the Ariens in terms of power. I have a small Honda gas snowblower and it can handle more than the similarly sized typical electric Ego snowblowers that are around the neighborhood.
are you kidding? how many name calling assertions from the left wing mob did they have to endure as well? you don't want honest debate which is why it turns out like this. go back, it's both ways
@Richard Schnyderite shouldn't ban anyone and if he does, he ought to ban everyone cause you're all guilty!
I'll add that this thread turned political and CE by a left winger on page 4.
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would never consider an electric snowblower given the power and duration needed.
I agree on the electric leaf blower, thing is great and easy to use if not needed for major work
And YOU report to the Mods about how posters conduct themselves? Unreal.
Hahaha so soft. Go back and see who started the name calling. Which you too participated in. Sigma vibes
Looks like some former military leaders aren’t having it.
www.foxnews.com
17 retired military officials raise alarm on Biden's electric vehicle push
FIRST ON FOX: A group of retired military officials are warning that President Biden's electric vehicle push will benefit China and has serious national security implications.
he does but he's not alone. there is a gaggle of them like that
Only downside with the electric was I underestimated how much time it normally would take to do my typical leaf blowing. I thought swapping two batteries would work. I needed a third, so I found a used one on eBay, bought a third cheap charger and now can get through the yard by just rotating batteries.
Looks like some former military leaders aren’t having it.
17 retired military officials raise alarm on Biden's electric vehicle push
FIRST ON FOX: A group of retired military officials are warning that President Biden's electric vehicle push will benefit China and has serious national security implications.
Did Fox News change their website?
I don't recall ever having to enter an email address to get access to their site.
I’m talking about completely derailing a thread that has many pages of useful discussion and information.
