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@Knight Shift

Interesting post on the Lighting forum about an owner using the adapter for long trip. Good reminder that not all Tesla superchargers will work with the adapter. Need to check on the app.
 
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@Knight Shift

Interesting post on the Lighting forum about an owner using the adapter for long trip. Good reminder that not all Tesla superchargers will work with the adapter. Need to check on the app.
Saw that, and if you read to bottom, he went to the the wrong Supercharger stations. There are two in that local. If you go to Ford's website, they give you guidance on how to locate the correct Supercharger stations--they have to be 250 and above, not the 150 variety.
 
Is there any way to ask the school to build more EV chargers? Its crazy that Stockton U has more chargers than Rutgers. The chargers in Busch/Livi are always full if not broken.
 
This thread is dying.

In the interests of reviving it, here's a nice Jalopnik Teslerati trolling article. I mean, they kinda make a compelling case. Offering existing customers a free motor replacement does sound like a covert recall action. I mean, unless the motor in the CT is super cheaply made, in which case maybe it's just good customer service.

 
EV owners might be interested in this item from today's Axios newsletter about used car prices.

: Average wholesale prices declined 8.9% in June to $17,934, compared with a year earlier, according to Cox Automotive's Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index.

  • 🔌 The price declines are hitting EVs the hardest, as choices proliferate and some consumers balk at the chance to go electric.
Used EV prices are down 16.6% over the last year, and the average price of a 2023 Tesla Model 3 with two-wheel-drive has plunged 40% in a year, according to Manheim.
 
EV owners might be interested in this item from today's Axios newsletter about used car prices.

: Average wholesale prices declined 8.9% in June to $17,934, compared with a year earlier, according to Cox Automotive's Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index.

  • 🔌 The price declines are hitting EVs the hardest, as choices proliferate and some consumers balk at the chance to go electric.
Used EV prices are down 16.6% over the last year, and the average price of a 2023 Tesla Model 3 with two-wheel-drive has plunged 40% in a year, according to Manheim.
Do they factor the federal tax credit into depreciation?
 
Used EV prices are down 16.6% over the last year, and the average price of a 2023 Tesla Model 3 with two-wheel-drive has plunged 40% in a year, according to Manheim.
The underlined part is a bit hard to believe 'cause that's a pretty massive single-year loss in value. If it's actually true, I'd be super-reluctant to buy a new Model 3 w/2-wheel drive at this point.
 
EV owners might be interested in this item from today's Axios newsletter about used car prices.

: Average wholesale prices declined 8.9% in June to $17,934, compared with a year earlier, according to Cox Automotive's Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index.

  • 🔌 The price declines are hitting EVs the hardest, as choices proliferate and some consumers balk at the chance to go electric.
Used EV prices are down 16.6% over the last year, and the average price of a 2023 Tesla Model 3 with two-wheel-drive has plunged 40% in a year, according to Manheim.
I'm looking at it as an opportunity. Now is the time to get a great car at a huge discount.
 
The underlined part is a bit hard to believe 'cause that's a pretty massive single-year loss in value. If it's actually true, I'd be super-reluctant to buy a new Model 3 w/2-wheel drive at this point.
I have sent Manheim an e-mail asking where the 40% figure appears on their site. I'll let you know if I hear back.
 
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I have sent Manheim an e-mail asking where the 40% figure appears on their site. I'll let you know if I hear back.
A Manheim representative confirms the 40% decrease and says it can be found on slides 20 and 37 of this link:

https://www.coxautoinc.com/wp-conte...sed-Vehicle-Value-Index-Call-Presentation.pdf

I have asked the question that @jtung230 posed above, and I'll let everyone know if I get an answer. As the slides show, I can tell you that last June's value was $37,645 and this June's is $22,464 (both wholesale figures).
 
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Neighbor bought a Model Y on a big discount, now he has a Rivian order coming up with a 25% discount that he can’t pass up. Plenty of deals to be had
I keep getting offers from my dealer on my 2022 F150 Lightning for around $50-53K. Think I paid around $75K 2 years ago before $7500 tax credit (and no sales tax), putting my cash out of pocket at $67,500. Not terrible depreciation, but I have no plans to sell anytime soon. Just passed 10,000 miles. Hardly drove it during shutdowns, etc., and still don't drive it that much except around town.
 
Gene Munster calls the Cybertruck a dud.

At about the 5 min mark.

I like the CNBC dude who owns a CT arguing that "it's not a dud" and "I'm bigger than Disney" to the kids in his neighborhood. 🤣

I can definitely see the vehicle appealing to the Disney age kids. But older kids and everybody I know is laughing at the CT when they see it. The self-proclaimed idol to little kids did say it's mostly being purchased by existing Tesla owners, so the failure is it's not expanding the brand to new markets. Which makes sense.
 
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I like the CNBC dude who owns a CT arguing that "it's not a dud" and "I'm bigger than Disney" to the kids in his neighborhood. 🤣

I can definitely see the vehicle appealing to the Disney age kids. But older kids and everybody I know is laughing at the CT when they see it. The self-proclaimed idol to little kids did say it's mostly being purchased by existing Tesla owners, so the failure is it's not expanding the brand to new markets. Which makes sense.
I don't think the demand or sales are there either. My guess is that is what Munster was getting at.
 
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All facts. I live here: You don’t.

Yes, Newsom did make a statement about not charging EVs due to the heat wave and strain on the grid but left out was him specifically asking they not charge between the hours of 4 and 9PM, which is the period when strain on the grid is the highest.

So to say Newsom said don't charge your vehicles because of the grid is an overstatement. And it's not uncommon. Power companies, for example, will often provide guidance for energy usage during heat waves, etc.
 
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Yes, Newsom did make a statement about not charging EVs due to the heat wave and strain on the grid but left out was him specifically asking they not charge between the hours of 4 and 9PM, which is the period when strain on the grid is the highest.

So to say Newsom said don't charge your vehicles because of the grid is an overstatement. And it's not uncommon. Power companies, for example, will often provide guidance for energy usage during heat waves, etc.
Ca power is a major issue. Anyone saying otherwise either doesn’t live or here or has no understanding of what’s going on. It’s not a debate. It’s a fact.
 
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Ca power is a major issue. Anyone saying otherwise either doesn’t live or here or has no understanding of what’s going on. It’s not a debate. It’s a fact.

Great my only point is saying Newsom told people to not charge their EVs is being a bit disingenuous. He was way more detailed in the request and many power companies do the same things during high stress times on their grid.
 
Tesla brought back the RWD 3 Long range today … up to 363 miles which I know is aspirational on the highway but still a solid bump as compared to the other options out there.
 
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US EV sales up yoy, and qoq.



"Thanks in large part to improved availability, higher discounts, and elevated levels of leasing, EV sales exploded more than 11 percent in Q2 2024 to reach a new sales record.


According to a report from Cox Automotive, sales of all-electric vehicles jumped 11.3 percent on a year-over-year basis to 330,463 units during the second quarter of the 2024 calendar year. Interestingly, this comes as market leader Tesla posted a decline in sales volume by 6.3 percent from last year, which accounted for a 49.7 percent share of the EV market.


It’s worth noting that electric vehicle sales in Q2 2024 were 23 percent higher than those in Q1 2024."
 
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