OT: Four year extension for Stringer in the works.

[kupuna133]

they most likely were forced out in a cost cutting measure by Julie the prior season

I have a hard time believing that one. This started prior to the cost cutting by Julie. You are telling me a young up and comer with "loyalty" to the program is more expensive then what is on the staff now? If this is true I blame Stringer for not doing what is necessary to maintain continuity in the program.

I have heard similar things as TMCB regarding the power programs at the shore not giving RU a look. Friendly with someone who has two daughters at elite WBB schools and another in the pipeline that stated "with Stringer there they will not get the NJ shore talent." Just doesn't speak to the style of basketball that these girls are playing.

 

[eceres]

When looking at programs that passed us keep in mind for every one there's 5-10 that the coaching change didn't go well for. Change is far from guaranteed success.

 

[Scarlet16E]

Many people in this thread are demonstrating why they should not be taken seriously.
Yeah. Rutgers is supposed to fire a HOF coach! What BS! With thinking like this it's no wonder most of our athletic programs have sucked for so long. Thankfully we have smart people running the show now.

Give her the tools she needs to succeed (re. facilities) and keep her on an heavily incentive-based contract until the day she wants to retire.

 

[knightfan7]

Both hoops programs have been buried with not one cent spent on facilities for decades..so comical when football fans cry because money in because spent on another sport..scrutiny? Mens and womens hoops have been pissed and dumped on for years..so fairness is out the window here

And many including me in my small way have recognized the inequity and reached in their pockets or adjusted where our donations go in an effort to effect change as shown by the $ raised for the new facility.

I don't agree you can blame facilities for the financial losses incurred by WBB, the downward trend in attendance, or the lack of success vs money spent. The question is whether or not CVS is still the person to lead WBB. What happened years ago should not be a reason to say yes. You have to look at where the team is now and ask yourself if what you see is acceptable. If the Admin and majority of Rutgers supporters can say it meets their expectations then there's no question. I just happen to think it's not all that crystal clear. Believe me Bac, I'll be happy to be proven wrong.

 

[imbazza2]

Some facts need to be looked at, CVS is 67 years old, making the end of her next contract to be 71 years old.
At some time she will want to retire.
Hobbs is a good AD who will not kick a HOF coach to the curb but we can assume Hobbs is structuring this contract to provide a graceful transformation, if CVS continues to fall or fails to improve, by having a final transmission clause where she can retire and maybe establish a successor for a smooth transmission in the final year of new contract.
Just a view that is humane and best for image and transmission to new coach and staff

 

[bac2therac]

And many including me in my small way have recognized the inequity and reached in their pockets or adjusted where our donations go in an effort to effect change as shown by the $ raised for the new facility.

I don't agree you can blame facilities for the financial losses incurred by WBB, the downward trend in attendance, or the lack of success vs money spent. The question is whether or not CVS is still the person to lead WBB. What happened years ago should not be a reason to say yes. You have to look at where the team is now and ask yourself if what you see is acceptable. If the Admin and majority of Rutgers supporters can say it meets their expectations then there's no question. I just happen to think it's not all that crystal clear. Believe me Bac, I'll be happy to be proven wrong.

WNIT title and NCAA appearance and another NIT isnt cause for firing..what lofty standards we have

And if you dont think facilities matter....

 

[Knight Shift]

WNIT title and NCAA appearance and another NIT isnt cause for firing..what lofty standards we have

And if you dont think facilities matter....

No, that excuse is the exclusive province of Men's BB. That dog doesn't hunt for women's BB. Women don't care about facilities.

 

[knightfan7]

WNIT title and NCAA appearance and another NIT isnt cause for firing..what lofty standards we have

And if you dont think facilities matter....

Being 1 of 64 yes. NIT....nah, it's for also rans. As with the Men's NIT it isn't 1965.

 

[17Q66]

He put the coach above the program. Which should not happen. Especially when she has been on a downward spiral for several years. When were we last a top 20 team for most of the season?

He did nothing of the kind.

 

[oldman87]

Football is on its own playing field, it is what got RU into the Big 10, and it is in another universe when it comes to revenue. So no, I would continue to put into football no matter what,

The rest of the sports including Men's Bball I look at Revenues/ subsidies and what future $$ can be made if there are investments in the program. It appears the Men make a slight profit while the women's Bball loses the most of any sport at RU. In my opinion RU should not have to subsidize 2.2 million for any sport not named football. If lacrosse lost 2.2 million I would be reviewing that program as well. The bottom line Is that not enough people support the women's Bball team to keep pouring $$ into a coach. If the women received support so that the subsidy was in line with other sports, I would be fine with Stringers large salary.

Also, this may be politically incorrect, but I don't believe football should be counted in the mix when it comes to title IX. I think that scholarships should be equal for men and women among the other sports.

This post is the perfect example why I think it's impossible to have an intelligent discussion on what is best for the WBB program on a football board, or any non-football programs for that matter especially women's sports.

Luckily we now have someone at the top who understands the importance and the value of supporting all programs across the board.

Lastly, no football didn't get us into Big10, neither did Pernetti, it was mostly about location location location....mostly.

 

[knightfan7]

This post is the perfect example why I think it's impossible to have an intelligent discussion on what is the best for the WBB program on a football board, or any non-football programs especially women's sports.

Luckily we now have someone at the top who understands the importance and the value of supporting all programs across the board.

Ahhh, everyone has an opinion good or bad. It's an interesting topic to discuss. We all realize she's here for the foreseeable future. We'll just have to see how it plays out. Hopefully it ends up well.

One thing I hope we all agree on is women's sports are just as important in the grand scheme as men's. I have a son who played basketball and ran track. My daughter played field hockey and dabbled in soccer and cheerleading (which is a sport these days). Both benefited greatly from their participation imo.

 

[oldman87]

One thing I hope we all agree on is women's sports are just as important in the grand scheme as men's. I have a son who played basketball and ran track. My daughter played field hockey and dabbled in soccer and cheerleading (which is a sport these days). Both benefited greatly from their participation imo.

Definitely in full agreement.

 

[RUchip]

Rick Pitino resigned as the Celtics coach. So should Stringer. She's not in to win. She's strictly in for the money and doesn't give a crap about winning anymore. You can't blame facilities on bad coaching!!!!

 

[MADHAT1]

Rick Pitino resigned as the Celtics coach. So should Stringer. She's not in to win. She's strictly in for the money and doesn't give a crap about winning anymore. You can't blame facilities on bad coaching!!!!

Rick Pitino
BOS 1997–98 82 36 46 .439 6th in Atlantic — — — — Missed Playoffs
BOS 1998–99 50 19 31 .371 5th in Atlantic — — — — Missed Playoffs
BOS 1999–00 82 35 47 .427 5th in Atlantic — — — — Missed Playoffs
BOS 2000–01 34 12 22 .371

C. Vivian Stringer
2011–12 Rutgers 20–13 10–6 6th NCAA First round
2012–13 Rutgers 16–14 7–9 T-9th
Rutgers Scarlet Knights (American Athletic Conference) (2013–2014)
2013–14 Rutgers 28–9 12–6 4th WNIT Champions
Rutgers Scarlet Knights (Big Ten Conference) (2014–present)
2014–15 Rutgers 23–10 12–6 5th
2015–16 Rutgers 19–15 7–9 8th WNIT Second Round

 

[AreYouNUTS]

BAC - there is no doubt in my mind you stated several times, this past season, that she should NOT receive a new contract. Now you have completely changed your tone again, which is fine, but you're bashing right now really is a tad hypocritical don't you think? You've always been a huge supporter of the program, no question, but I'd bet a Lo-Bro that I'm right.

 

[knightfan7]

BAC - there is no doubt in my mind you stated several times, this past season, that she should NOT have receive a new contract. Now you have completely changed your tone again, which is fine, but you're bashing right now really is a tad hypocritical don't you think? You've always been a huge supporter of the program, no question, but I'd bet a Lo-Bro that I'm right.

You're right as far as I remember.

To be fair Bac has long and perhaps correctly stated that the seemingly single minded concentration on football has hurt any chance of success in basketball. Not to put words in his mouth but I think that's where it's coming from.

 

[Knight Shift]

One thing I hope we all agree on is women's sports are just as important in the grand scheme as men's. I have a son who played basketball and ran track. My daughter played field hockey and dabbled in soccer and cheerleading (which is a sport these days). Both benefited greatly from their participation imo.

I think I can answer the question, but what tangible benefits can you cite to a kid in 7th, 8th or 9th grade who does not see the value in continuing with participation in sports in high school? Obviously, some kids are not athletic and just will not participate. Teamwork, working with others, being part of something that is larger than yourself immediately come to mind. All of these skills translate into skills that are necessary later in life. Anything else?

 

[bac2therac]

I have a hard time believing that one. This started prior to the cost cutting by Julie. You are telling me a young up and comer with "loyalty" to the program is more expensive then what is on the staff now? If this is true I blame Stringer for not doing what is necessary to maintain continuity in the program.

I have heard similar things as TMCB regarding the power programs at the shore not giving RU a look. Friendly with someone who has two daughters at elite WBB schools and another in the pipeline that stated "with Stringer there they will not get the NJ shore talent." Just doesn't speak to the style of basketball that these girls are playing.

Newton and Pointer just left prior to the 2015-16 season

 

[kupuna133]

Newton and Pointer just left prior to the 2015-16 season

They were just the latest to jump ship. So you're telling me that Pointer going to St. John's lower to lateral move and Newton going to UGA lateral move is not alarming to you? They assumed the same roles at the new institution. Especially when they are not replaced by one of her "daughters"? Could be a cost cutting thing but these type of moves in the past left the door open for one of her past players to be next in line. There doesn't seem to be anyone wanting to step up to be next in line. That is what I find to be alarming. People seem to be distancing themselves from the program. Both fans in attendance, coaches and past players.

 

[knightfan7]

I think I can answer the question, but what tangible benefits can you cite to a kid in 7th, 8th or 9th grade who does not see the value in continuing with participation in sports in high school? Obviously, some kids are not athletic and just will not participate. Teamwork, working with others, being part of something that is larger than yourself immediately come to mind. All of these skills translate into skills that are necessary later in life. Anything else?

I think you hit on big positives. I believe it makes you more well rounded and emphasizes personal responsibility. It also teaches you how to deal with success or failure. The same could be said for kids who join school clubs, work, or volunteer after school instead of sitting around playing video game and texting.

 

[oldtimer67]

Rick Pitino resigned as the Celtics coach. So should Stringer. She's not in to win. She's strictly in for the money and doesn't give a crap about winning anymore. You can't blame facilities on bad coaching!!!!

How the f*** can you pretend to know these things. Anyone who has met her knows that just the opposite is true. I guess you are just a message board a**hole.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

nt

 

[rubaseball78]

Rick Pitino resigned as the Celtics coach. So should Stringer. She's not in to win. She's strictly in for the money and doesn't give a crap about winning anymore. You can't blame facilities on bad coaching!!!!

I don't get why Stringer needs to resign as Celtics coach?

 

[oldman87]

Rick Pitino resigned as the Celtics coach. So should Stringer. She's not in to win. She's strictly in for the money and doesn't give a crap about winning anymore. You can't blame facilities on bad coaching!!!!

That is one wild Stringer theory.

 

[ScarletteK80]

It's about time we have an AD that gets it when it comes to WBB.

What a breath of fresh air, an AD that knows how to run an athletic department.

 

[ScarletteK80]

Nuts,
While all our sports need to draw a lot better, the crowds at the womens basketball games are wayyyyyy to small. Do you think Coach Stringer could/should be doing more to reach out to the youth and high school players and coaches around the state to get them more involved in supporting the team ?

And how do you know that CVS, and her team don't reach out to HS teams, RWJ, and other charities? Do some damn research before you make an inacurate statement.