The end of the year when you can tell that missing the NCAA tournament was a collosal failure? Yea..it matters. I don't understand your question at all. It's moronic
What team does well the whole year and doesn't make the NCAA tournament?
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What team does well the whole year and doesn't make the NCAA tournament?
One year of losing when we missed the NCAA tournament 3 years in a row. Please get your facts right
Perennial losing despite two winning seasons in a row. Again, please try to make an effort to get any facts right. You sound delusional. If it wasn't for schiano we would have literally nothing to watch. Unless you are actually watching this garbage basketball team..in which case your time is not valuable.
bac is right, that's not the point.
The point is that the article is reflecting the sentiment of 95% of the people out there and it's: Pickell and Rutgers couldn't make the NCAA tournament with the projected #2 and #3 Lottery picks playing on their team. This year is going to leave a big question mark in every recruit's head as to if Pickell can deliver. Nobody wants to play on a losing team. Harper and Baily's one year in college was embarrassing. Recruiting is going to be a harder sell for Pickell in the future, both HS and transfers.
Not insane. Contacts exist for a reason.
For some, there are no freebies in this world, and they are not going to go above what’s in their contract.
Hobbs argument would be if he’s going to be responsible for NIL, which is an additional scope of work, he should be compensated for it.
Everybody and their grandmother saw what NIL was going to be from day one. All other major programs went full speed ahead. It seems as if only Hobbs and Rutgers decided to "go slow".
Banging the gymnastics coach was also not in his contract but he seemed to find time in his busy day to do it.
Al, I'm sorry but this statement is not reflective of the real world for highly compensated executive.
so ****ing the gymnastics coach wasnt in his contract...or was it
stop defending him and you will have some credibility on this issue besides blaming the fans
Again, insane. Sure, Hobbs could’ve tried to negotiate more for this “additional scope of work.” But every other AD was out there trying to figure out how to make NIL work for them, and Hobbs wasn’t. Executives are free to negotiate, but not free to ignore the changing world around them and using a contract as an excuse.
And as has been said already, good luck trying to negotiate when you’re banging the gymnastics coach.
WAKE UP!!!!!!
Kids do not care about losing. They care about money. Thats it. Pikiell needs $6-$7M annually just to put a 500 team on the court. This is the reality of it.
It starts at $6M-$7M. We hold the power now. The days of just posting and complaining about a coach are over. It is on us.
President Holloway made it very clear that The “wild west” nature of NIL concerned him.
Shelby asks again....how much is Marquette raking in ? Or better, Kennesaw St. ?
NIL poverty might prevent us from being a regular top 20 team, but the squad sucks far beyond any NIL excuse. How much NIL do the Purdue reserves make ? Those garbage time players scored at will against our regulars.
The RU team has no heart and scant talent overall. Everyone's out there only looking to get shots off. That's been the MO for as long as Pike has been here.
NIL poverty might prevent us from being a regular top 20 team, but the squad sucks far beyond any NIL excuse. How much NIL do the Purdue reserves make ? Those garbage time players scored at will against our regulars.
The RU team has no heart and scant talent overall. Everyone's out there only looking to get shots off. That's been the MO for as long as Pike has been here.
And who is to say the next president...God hope not a DEI hire will think any different
The terms of compensation for highly compensated executives, responsibilities and expected performance, are governed by a contract.
Hobbs could have done a lot of things. But the President came out and said NIL wasn’t a priority for us. Hobbs might have approached the President about this and got his response.
Ultimately, it wasn’t a priority for Hobbs as well.
No, Robert. The point is you posted an article from an unqualified hack to make some point. Bad job.
Bac:
You’ve openly stated you wouldn’t give to NIL. So any effort that Hobbs might have spent appealing to fans like you would have been in vain. Holloway likely sensed the same thing. Now people might be more motivated to support, thx to the disappointing results.
Fans have had an opportunity to support NIL through Knights of the Raritan. Anyone who wanted to support is supporting.
First you tell me that Hobbs didn’t want to focus on NIL because it would be an “additional scope of work.” Now you tell me that Holloway hamstrung him.
It really is difficult to have a conversation with you. You are the king of moving the goalposts. All so you can continue to blame fans for everything.
I’m actually willing to concede that RU fans as a whole need to step up. But it’s not binary. There’s plenty within the RU athletic department that can also be done better.
Of course kids care about winning along with NIL and other considerations.
Let's say a top recruit has two offers, all other thing being equal, the only difference is the coaches. One brings his team to the NCAAs each year and the other was unable or barley able to make the B1G tournament with 2 NBA draft picks.
Winning is better than losing.
If I didn't post the article it wouldn't be erased from the internet. And even a hack gets it right every so often.
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What the **** kind of headline is that? That is barely even English, why are you clicking on this crap much less reading the whole article?
Dylan Harper & Ace Bailey Become Laughing Stocks Despite Creating Rare Freshman Milestone in Purdue Loss
"What the **** kind of headline is that? That is barely even English, why are you clicking on this crap much less reading the whole article?
"Bailey has started all 27 games for Rutgers,"
NOPE
1. We've played 30 games
2. Bailey has not started them all
NOPE
1. We've played 30 games
2. Bailey has not started them all
"Funny enough, Rutgers actually had an 8-0 run early in the game and even held a five-point lead at one point. "
NOPE (we were up 8)
This ****ing person (? AI?) didn't watch the game, or even bother to look up what happened.
NOPE (we were up 8)
This ****ing person (? AI?) didn't watch the game, or even bother to look up what happened.
Well, as long as it was on the INTERNET it certainly must be worthy of reposting. She’s a hack with her 2 years in “journalism” and by validating her “journalism” qualifies you as a certifiable blockhead.
This sums up this fanbase in a nutshell. You guys never stop comparing Rutgers to Rutgers.
Best.15.wins.I.have.seen.
You are celebrating winning 40-45% of games as something great.
Be better.
I plan to sit down with whoever the AD is and try to get through their dense skull that your goal as AD, should be for the coach you hire to get hired by someone else. That means you did a good job. Your goal should not be to put us in an impossible contract to get out of if the winds shift in 720 days and the coach goes from great to terrible.
So many ADs across America make that mistake, its not just a Hobbs thing.
Don't be an ass nobody was attacking you, how about a little civility?
Again the point is that those headlines will show up in peoples feeds who have an interest in Rutgers, no matter the author. I didn't go looking for it, it showed up. And the other point is that many people are thinking the same thing as the author. My point in posting it was to show what is being said.
No we’re not 8, but recruits, in HS and in the portal, notice. They want money and they want to go to the ncaas. We just proved we can’t get there with five stars.
Also now, EVERYONE is a potential one and done.
I have a sizable interest in Rutgers and it didn’t show up in my feed, Bob. And if it had I would have recognized that Apoorva from Essentially Sports is a hack from a trash site and not reposted it. But maybe we should repost everything found on the internet because after all, it’s what’s being said.
This clown refers to himself in the third person and has an excuse for everything. Better to ignore.
Who besides Shelby uses third person here ? Shelby’s better half Marian does too, but she doesn’t post here.
Hobbs was not qualified to be an athletic director at a large athletic department. He never was. He was a bad steward of Rutgers Athletics and was not held in high regard by his peers across the country. As they say, this is known.
I’m telling you that those are two factors which explain why Rutgers hasn’t previously really pushed NIL. They can both be true simultaneously.
Greg is improving and building, retaining players while Pike peaked
Hobbs was a political appointment, who did a great job, nonetheless, whose tenure was cut short by scandal. Without the scandal, he would have chosen his retirement date. His greatest achievements were the APC on Livingston, the Outdoor Football Practice Facility on Busch, and the Rodkin Academic Success Center, facilities which were made possible via significant donations. These facilities propelled Rutgers Athletics forward significantly, though there is more work to be done, namely the football fieldhouse and RAC renovation or replacement.
The fieldhouse plans are done, and are waiting to be funded. He made a great basketball hire in Pikiell and swallowed his pride and brought Schiano back, after being coaxed by alumni.
All in all, I thought Hobbs did a great job, considering Rutgers athletics constraints, chiefly lack of financial support. Best AD since Big Bob.
This could be one of the stupidest things you’ve said on this board and there’s a lot to compare. He wasn’t an hourly employee working on an assembly line. Imagine any CEO saying that’s not my job.
So based on that does he owe RU money for all the free sex he had at work? I’m sure it wasn’t in his contract. What’s the value of banging a gymnast?
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