OT: Just to catch up on what is going on in CFB NIL world. Portnoy offers $3mil for a QB for Michigan

[BROTHERSKINNY]

Dave Portnoy makes $3 million offer to Michigan to land top quarterback: ‘I will sign them’​

t’s “Blue Chips” coming to life.

Barstool Sports founder Dave Portnoy said he will spend up to $3 million annually to help the Michigan football team land a premier quarterback now that players can be paid under NIL rules.

The No. 12 Wolverines (3-1) have received shaky play from their quarterbacks this year in their attempt to repeat as national champions.

“Michigan — I will be the quarterback guy,” Portnoy said Thursday. “You just say, ‘Dave, you go,’ — I’ll talk to (coach) Sherrone (Moore). ‘Who do you guys want? Who’s in there? Give me a group, I’ll go get them. I will sign them, million, $2 million, whatever it is.'”
https://nypost.com/2024/09/27/sports/dave-portnoy-makes-3-million-offer-to-fix-michigans-qb-problem/

 

[WhiteBus]

I'll give him a 3.7 for idea.

 

[ScarletKid2008]

I saw that. It’s a crazy world out here.

I’m trying to wrap my head around two thought processes

1. Do people like this just have so much money that this is like their way of owning a part of a sports team , without being a billionaire . So it’s just money towards their own ego, pride, entertainment and “power”?
I mean my tiny donations towards RU are essentially the same thing. I hope it helps the team win. My hundreds or thousands in donations I guess is the equivalent of his net worth to mine ??? Except I get a little gift from RU while he probably gets full access and treated like part of the team.

2. It’s crazy college players are essentially bribed in public now. None of this feels like it’s going to end well. It’s gotta be temporary.. right ?

 

[tico brown]

The NCAA will declare this illegal AF when that Rutgers Billionaire Alum offers the same thing to play for Rutgers.

 

[JayDogSmooth]

We have the ability, and the potential, to do the exact same thing

 

[Rutgers Chris]

I saw that. It’s a crazy world out here.

I’m trying to wrap my head around two thought processes

1. Do people like this just have so much money that this is like their way of owning a part of a sports team , without being a billionaire . So it’s just money towards their own ego, pride, entertainment and “power”?
I mean my tiny donations towards RU are essentially the same thing. I hope it helps the team win. My hundreds or thousands in donations I guess is the equivalent of his net worth to mine ??? Except I get a little gift from RU while he probably gets full access and treated like part of the team.

2. It’s crazy college players are essentially bribed in public now. None of this feels like it’s going to end well. It’s gotta be temporary.. right ?

I heard the original show he mentioned it on. They talked it through and in the end the idea was for the player to make this out of Barstool sponsorships. This money wouldn’t be coming directly out of his pockets.

 

[beaced]

I saw that. It’s a crazy world out here.

I’m trying to wrap my head around two thought processes

1. Do people like this just have so much money that this is like their way of owning a part of a sports team , without being a billionaire . So it’s just money towards their own ego, pride, entertainment and “power”?
I mean my tiny donations towards RU are essentially the same thing. I hope it helps the team win. My hundreds or thousands in donations I guess is the equivalent of his net worth to mine ??? Except I get a little gift from RU while he probably gets full access and treated like part of the team.

2. It’s crazy college players are essentially bribed in public now. None of this feels like it’s going to end well. It’s gotta be temporary.. right ?

Wrong'!!! Colleges. are now ,actually farm teams for the pros.No pride in rooting for your school anymore.Good FB,worth seeing and you don't have r wait until Sunday to see great players.But you can!t take pride in your school for winning FB games anymore

 

[JayDogSmooth]

Wrong'!!! Colleges. are now ,actually farm teams for the pros.No pride in rooting for your school anymore.Good FB,worth seeing and you don't have r wait until Sunday to see great players.But you can!t take pride in your school for winning FB games anymore

We pay guys
See Wimstatt, Gavin
Harper, Dylan
Bailey, Ace

 

[Rutgers Chris]

I noticed on Sunday night football last week, several players naming both colleges they played for during introductions. A sign of the times for sure.

 

[BROTHERSKINNY]

I heard the original show he mentioned it on. They talked it through and in the end the idea was for the player to make this out of Barstool sponsorships. This money wouldn’t be coming directly out of his pockets.

Of course Portnoy is no dummy, he will run it through a corporation or LLC and probably get a tax benefit. BTW this has been going on for a long time. The Blue Bloods have been paying players for decades and the NCAA has known about it. Bags of cash, cars, valuables, etc. have been used by the best programs to lure talent since the 1950's and 1960's. Back then it was illegal or against NCAA rules but I am certain the league knew that this was going on and turned a blind eye.

 

[Brisket and Bourbon]

I noticed on Sunday night football last week, several players naming both colleges they played for during introductions. A sign of the times for sure.

I can see it

Jamaal James…Florida state…Cincinnati…North Carolina, LSU…MICHIGAN…

 

[Plum Street]

One pass, everyone knows the rules

 

[rutgersguy1]

I heard the original show he mentioned it on. They talked it through and in the end the idea was for the player to make this out of Barstool sponsorships. This money wouldn’t be coming directly out of his pockets.

That’s often how it is. Even if the headline number is true, which many times it isn’t, it can be misleading.

Was listening to a Mandel/Feldman pod and Feldman was like a lot of times you see things sort of “in kind” as opposed to in cash.

Like being able to stay in a 750K house for 4 months or use of 100K car for 4 months but not the actual cash or possession of said thing. It’s not 750k or 100K in cash or even owning the things,l. It’s just allowed use of something.

 

[mdk01]

We have the ability, and the potential, to do the exact same thing

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[mdk01]

Of course Portnoy is no dummy, he will run it through a corporation or LLC and probably get a tax benefit. BTW this has been going on for a long time. The Blue Bloods have been paying players for decades and the NCAA has known about it. Bags of cash, cars, valuables, etc. have been used by the best programs to lure talent since the 1950's and 1960's. Back then it was illegal or against NCAA rules but I am certain the league knew that this was going on and turned a blind eye.

But there was a limit. See SMU

 

[JayDogSmooth]

I'll believe it when I see it.

As will I
But the fact remains, future success is in our hands if we choose to embrace it

 

[365Poster24Seven]

I saw that. It’s a crazy world out here.

I’m trying to wrap my head around two thought processes

1. Do people like this just have so much money that this is like their way of owning a part of a sports team , without being a billionaire . So it’s just money towards their own ego, pride, entertainment and “power”?
I mean my tiny donations towards RU are essentially the same thing. I hope it helps the team win. My hundreds or thousands in donations I guess is the equivalent of his net worth to mine ??? Except I get a little gift from RU while he probably gets full access and treated like part of the team.

2. It’s crazy college players are essentially bribed in public now. None of this feels like it’s going to end well. It’s gotta be temporary.. right ?

He Loves Michigan and he wants to win. Nothing more nothing less. We want to tailgate and pay next to nothing for tickets and parking.

 

[365Poster24Seven]

We pay guys
See Wimstatt, Gavin
Harper, Dylan
Bailey, Ace

We are not paying Dylan and Ace nothing. If that was the case they would be at other schools.

 

[mildone]

I'll give him a 3.7 for idea.

Out of what? What's the scale? 0 to 5, 0 to 10? 0 to 100?

 

[mildone]

We are not paying Dylan and Ace nothing.

So then how much are we paying them?

 

[mildone]

1. Do people like this just have so much money that this is like their way of owning a part of a sports team , without being a billionaire .

A quick web-search suggests he has a net worth around $100M. And who knows how reasonably liquid that net worth might be.

But as others have stated, it's unlikely to be coming out of his pocket.

 

[Eagleton96]

Dave Portnoy makes $3 million offer to Michigan to land top quarterback: ‘I will sign them’​

t’s “Blue Chips” coming to life.

Barstool Sports founder Dave Portnoy said he will spend up to $3 million annually to help the Michigan football team land a premier quarterback now that players can be paid under NIL rules.

The No. 12 Wolverines (3-1) have received shaky play from their quarterbacks this year in their attempt to repeat as national champions.

“Michigan — I will be the quarterback guy,” Portnoy said Thursday. “You just say, ‘Dave, you go,’ — I’ll talk to (coach) Sherrone (Moore). ‘Who do you guys want? Who’s in there? Give me a group, I’ll go get them. I will sign them, million, $2 million, whatever it is.'”
https://nypost.com/2024/09/27/sports/dave-portnoy-makes-3-million-offer-to-fix-michigans-qb-problem/

Gross

 

[JayDogSmooth]

We are not paying Dylan and Ace nothing. If that was the case they would be at other schools.

Fanatics is paying Dylan, we helped broker
Ace is getting paid 1 mil - via our NIL
Gavin got 1mil, I believe at least some, if not all, was via our NIL

 

[365Poster24Seven]

So then how much are we paying them?

Not our NIL it came from other avenues. When Cliff went t o Alabama that showed you are crappy NIL situation. It’s been discussed a lot that Pike wanted a Center but we had no money for one. Cliff here would have meant Final 4.

 

[Brisket and Bourbon]

Good for Michigan…those that can, do…kids getting paid…isn’t that what people wanted? 😉 there is no world where a Vandy competes with Bama, or a Maryland competes with Ohio state…even in the power 2, there is stratification…haves and check collectors…

 

[NickRU714]

Despicable!

Now of he said "I'll pay $3m a year for a coach" - there aren't enough rose we should throw at his feet.

Or "I'll pay $3m to the Athletic Department to pay for travel and administrators and food and recruiting flight and gameday operators everyone hates".

Just about any other expense involved with college athletics - nothing but accolades and shows his true dedication as a fan.

But offer to have that money go directly to players on the field???
The horror!!

 

[MADHAT1]

Wrong'!!! Colleges. are now ,actually farm teams for the pros.No pride in rooting for your school anymore.Good FB,worth seeing and you don't have r wait until Sunday to see great players.But you can!t take pride in your school for winning FB games anymore

It's really getting this way.

 

[Plum Street]

Fanatics is paying Dylan, we helped broker
Ace is getting paid 1 mil - via our NIL
Gavin got 1mil, I believe at least some, if not all, was via our NIL

Which Gavin ?

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

Which Gavin ?

Wimstadtt

 

[MADHAT1]

We pay guys
See Wimstatt, Gavin
Harper, Dylan
Bailey, Ace

yes and now players having loyalty to where they commit has a price and that price might not be enough to keep the player for his whole college career.
The NIL has changed the face of college sports , pay to play is now part of it .
Once it was backroom deals that would bite a program in the butt if a program got caught paying a player to commit . Now it's part of the recruiting process and the highest bidder gets the prize .

 

[RUAldo]

Despicable!

Now of he said "I'll pay $3m a year for a coach" - there aren't enough rose we should throw at his feet.

Or "I'll pay $3m to the Athletic Department to pay for travel and administrators and food and recruiting flight and gameday operators everyone hates".

Just about any other expense involved with college athletics - nothing but accolades and shows his true dedication as a fan.

But offer to have that money go directly to players on the field???
The horror!!

——-

You do realize coaches, ADs, etc. are employees of the universities…it’s their job…these are supposed to be student athletes and most are also getting a free education, room/board, food. Way different my friend.

 

[gman500]

He should give that money to tunnels to towers

 

[mildone]

You do realize coaches, ADs, etc. are employees of the universities…it’s their job…these are supposed to be student athletes and most are also getting a free education, room/board, food. Way different my friend.

It’s not the school paying the player. It’s whoever signs the player to an NIL deal paying the player. So the free education, room and board, food, etc. are entirely irrelevant. Not sure why people keep bringing it up. Jealousy, I guess.

In both cases, schools paying coaches, or organizations paying players, the similarity is that there is a business relationship. Not way different at all.

 

[mildone]

Good for Michigan…those that can, do…kids getting paid…isn’t that what people wanted? 😉 there is no world where a Vandy competes with Bama, or a Maryland competes with Ohio state…even in the power 2, there is stratification…haves and check collectors…

I think what people wanted is a level playing field for all people seeking to profit off their talents and skills.

Prior to the NIL decision, players were unfairly prevented from earning any of revenue being generated from their efforts. Meanwhile, all other students, who aren’t student athletes, are free to earn as much money as they wish doing whatever they wish. Those students get a free education too. But they can also run a business or be a highly-paid influencer.

Why should non-athletes have the right to earn money, but not athletes?

 

[NickRU714]

He should give that money to tunnels to towers

Could say the same for all "donations" to college athletics departments.
Good thing your not advising Jeff Towers.

https://www.nj.com/education/2020/0...er-lands-powerful-role-at-the-university.html

 

[Extra Point]

Setting up major corruption. Maybe they will enroll Daniel Jones and pay him to play ball with the kids.

 

[RUAldo]

Setting up major corruption. Maybe they will enroll Daniel Jones and pay him to play ball with the kids.

Good point - why even have eligibility requirements at this point? Why have transfer rules? The NCAA is a joke. Eventually big money will step in, buy the team rights, lease the stadiums, and fund the programs, with universities simply licensing their trademarks back to the teams.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

We have the ability, and the potential, to do the exact same thing

We do not.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

Why should non-athletes have the right to earn money, but not athletes?

Because athletics rely on the illusion of competitive balance in order for the sport to prosper.

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

We do not.

Here are the rules (or lack thereof)

We can play by the rules
We choose not to, that's on us

We do, we become elite
Pretty simple