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OT: New ACC Deal To Reward Clemson and FSU?

FUS's not at the top at most years. Have have you looked at the actual ratings? I mean the actual numbers year by year?
I never said we're at the top, I said we're near the top
Hell, we were 2-10 and still had the most watched league game in the ACC this year

When we're good, we're generally top 10 nationally
When we're pedestrian, top 15 is generally where we land
ACC wise, we're usually in the top spot

Are we ND, Texas, Ohio State, Bama, or Michigan?
Absolutely not
But we're generally right in that second tier

Thanks to Bobby playing anyone, anywhere, anytime, it put us on the map
And because of that, and the success that came along with it, the brand holds weight
 
I never said we're at the top, I said we're near the top
Hell, we were 2-10 and still had the most watched league game in the ACC this year

When we're good, we're generally top 10 nationally
When we're pedestrian, top 15 is generally where we land
ACC wise, we're usually in the top spot

Are we ND, Texas, Ohio State, Bama, or Michigan?
Absolutely not
But we're generally right in that second tier

Thanks to Bobby playing anyone, anywhere, anytime, it put us on the map
And because of that, and the success that came along with it, the brand holds weight
They're not near the top either. I posted a link to a site that has the ratings for all college football games going back to 2012. I'm not saying this to knock Florida state. Th3 dp have good ratings. I'm just saying when you look at the ratings that the SEC in the Big Ten are getting, it's significantly larger than the ratings that Florida State's getting. If you look at the massive amount of money that the SEC and Big Ten are getting now, just good ratings aren't going to be enough to increase the payout enough to make it worth it to add extra teams.


 
SMU’s booster support is next level, they’re not making any money from the ACC contract for like seven years, and one of their boosters quoted to saying he’s not gonna lose sleep over dropping $100 million into the booster or NIL bucket

I would assume the Big Ten tell Notre Dame that they need to join for all sports, football included

Per 95 and a couple of the other knowledge posters indicated, Clemson would be SEC bound, weather Carolina like it or not (similar to but on a smaller level than Texas getting admitted whether A&M liked it or not)
" I would assume the Big Ten tell Notre Dame that they need to join for all sports, football included"
I'd bet on that and feel the imitation Irish will say no to that and place their other sports in the Big East and stay independent in football.
Not being in a conference ( in my opinion) has a lot of unaffiliated college football fans rooting for them instead of their state U.
Notre Dame joining a conference and those fans might not feel the same way as they did supporting an independent ND football team and turn their support to State U.
I feel a lot of the excitement fans all over the country feel when they root for the imitation Irish is they are rooting for a program that is bucking the ( conference) system and winning.

Personally, even though I don't like the imitation Irish very much I like them being independent in football
and having enough support to stay that way , even if they make less than the B1G and SEC
I read Notre Dame is currently receiving 50 million a year from NBC and 17 million from the ACC conference in TV revenue and that might be enough to stay independent if football and I'm sure if the ACC starts an unannounced revenue sharing the games ND is contractually obliged to play against ACC programs will see them get some extra compensation in some way if not $$$ per game.

Also ( from a google search):
>In addition to not having to share the financial fruits of its CFP labor with other conference members, Notre Dame is expected to get a base payout of approximately $12 million annually in the new six-year CFP agreement beginning in 2026, which nearly matches ACC and Big 12 schools ($13 million and $12 million, ..<
 
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They're not near the top either. I posted a link to a site that has the ratings for all college football games going back to 2012. I'm not saying this to knock Florida state. Th3 dp have good ratings. I'm just saying when you look at the ratings that the SEC in the Big Ten are getting, it's significantly larger than the ratings that Florida State's getting. If you look at the massive amount of money that the SEC and Big Ten are getting now, just good ratings aren't going to be enough to increase the payout enough to make it worth it to add extra teams.


The list you provided does not have yearly ratings for the teams, it just has weekly ratings dating back to 2012.
Also, it doesn't include ESPN properties (ACC network, SEC network and Longhorn network) ratings as ESPN doesn't subscribe to the Neilsen measurement.

For context, I've included the following:

ACC ratings from 2012 - 2023 (games with 4 million + viewers)


Most watched ACC games 2024


Top 15 nationally from 2017-2022, despite being largely pedestrian (Willy Taggert years included)

50 % of football ratings coming from 18 teams


2023 ratings


In summation, there's the kings (Buckeye, ND, Mich, Texas, etc.) and the second tier
FSU falls in the second tier
 
" I would assume the Big Ten tell Notre Dame that they need to join for all sports, football included"
I'd bet on that and feel the imitation Irish will say no to that and place their other sports in the Big East and stay independent in football.
Not being in a conference ( in my opinion) has a lot of unaffiliated college football fans rooting for them instead of their state U.
Notre Dame joining a conference and those fans might not feel the same way as they did supporting an independent ND football team and turn their support to State U.
I feel a lot of the excitement fans all over the country feel when they root for the imitation Irish is they are rooting for a program that is bucking the ( conference) system and winning.
ND might tell the B1G to pound sand, there's no debating that
They hold a lot of power

I think that eventually, sometime in our lifetimes, ND will join a conference
Where, when and at what cost (either to them, or the other schools already int eh conferences) is TBD
 
The list you provided does not have yearly ratings for the teams, it just has weekly ratings dating back to 2012.
Also, it doesn't include ESPN properties (ACC network, SEC network and Longhorn network) ratings as ESPN doesn't subscribe to the Neilsen measurement.

For context, I've included the following:

ACC ratings from 2012 - 2023 (games with 4 million + viewers)


Most watched ACC games 2024


Top 15 nationally from 2017-2022, despite being largely pedestrian (Willy Taggert years included)

50 % of football ratings coming from 18 teams


2023 ratings


In summation, there's the kings (Buckeye, ND, Mich, Texas, etc.) and the second tier
FSU falls in the second tier
The link I provided has the weekly rating since 2012. Where do you think the yearly averages are coming from? They come from an average of the weekly ratings.

You're proving my point for me. Florida state is in the second tier ratings-wise, which would not be near the top. That goes back to my initial point. With the amount of money that the SEC and the Big Ten are making now, it's going to be difficult for any team to bring in the ratings that would make it worth it for those conferences to add more teams.
 
Edit: I forgot to mention that the ratings from the conference networks aren't taking because most of them pull in low ratings. If you notice the Big Ten Network is the only one that appears in the ratings, and almost all of them are low rated games. That's because the conference networks don't make money off of advertising. They make it off of subscriptions.
 
The link I provided has the weekly rating since 2012. Where do you think the yearly averages are coming from? They come from an average of the weekly ratings.

You're proving my point for me. Florida state is in the second tier ratings-wise, which would not be near the top. That goes back to my initial point. With the amount of money that the SEC and the Big Ten are making now, it's going to be difficult for any team to bring in the ratings that would make it worth it for those conferences to add more teams.
It doesn't have the weekly ratings by team, it has them by game

Check out some of the big-time games we've had the past few years (Bama, LSU x 2, Ole Miss, UGA, etc.)
Monster ratings, and prime time games
You don't get the prime-time slot, on a continual basis, by not generate big $$ ratings

Again, check out the link I posted on here, putting us at 14th during a fairly pedestrian stretch
https://chopchat.com/2022/07/02/fsu...ll-top-15-nationally-depsite-last-five-years/

Additionally, we're significantly weighed down, ratings wise, by playing in the ACC
Put us in the B1G or SEC, and we'd shoot a lot farther up the rankings by playing teams that actually have fans (Clemson, Miami, ND)
*** Texas should, and is, much higher than 14, but was also weighed down by playing in the Big 12

Right now, in the ACC, we're mid second tier ratings wise
Throw us in B1G or SEC, we'd likely be upper second tier, or lower first tier (still below OSU/UM, etc.)
 
Edit: I forgot to mention that the ratings from the conference networks aren't taking because most of them pull in low ratings. If you notice the Big Ten Network is the only one that appears in the ratings, and almost all of them are low rated games. That's because the conference networks don't make money off of advertising. They make it off of subscriptions.
Gotcha, was unaware why they were omitted
 
Spank is a mutual friend

Great guy - actually hung out with him and a few others from the board at his tailgate at the spring game last year

He cooked up some great food, we shared some beers and were able to talk ball - Was refreshing actually, a true breath of fresh air from the long winter.

I could be mistaken, but I don’t recall seeing you there - not sure if you weren’t invited, were trying to get your sanity back, or what the deal was

You seem angry today.
Are you going insane again?
Are you gonna wish death upon me one more time?

Do you need a hug?
Maybe just a friend to lean on?
Or merely a support system to help you through your insane times?

Don’t fret, I’ve got just the guy for you
It’s the guy you’re taking up your cross for

One who roams around the Scarlet lot with his trusty canine - and 1, who like you, has officially gone insane.

So cheer up, Mr. Grumpy pants
Put a smile on your face

And always remember… Life is too short to wish death upon others.

Even on your boy JayDog - who, even through your difficult times, has nothing but love for you, buddy.

JayDog Storyteller seems pretty defensive in this post. Perhaps JayDog needs to learn to read because as they say...."Reading is Fundamental" - but maybe poor Jaydog was of too low intelligence to pick up a book or interpret anything in writing beyond a 180 Character tweet?

Insanity did not wish death upon JayDog.....rather what Insanity actually said was that if JayDog dropped dead, Insanity would not care. If JayDog was versed in any type of reading comprehension, he might be able to understand the difference between what he thought was posted versus what was actually posted. Sadly though, JayDog appears to be so full of himself to worry about such frivolous things such as being able to read.

Insanity did not go to the previous spring game as Insanity was in Nashville for his birthday with family and friends. Of particular interest here is that Insanity has his own friends and tailgates with them at RU Games.......he is not so insecure that he needs to pretend to be friends with other posters that he does not know or because he happened to stop by a tailgate.

Insanity has been to many Spring Games often coupled with Rutgers Spring Fests, Rutgers Parents Days & Cook Ag. Field Days. Insanity was a fan of Rutgers basketball and football before he even attended Rutgers. Insanity attended Rutgers (as did his brother), Insanity's best friends attended Rutgers, many of whom were also Fraternity Brothers of Insanity. Some of those friends/brothers in fact post on these boards. Insanity even lived in New Brunswick and then surrounding towns after he graduated and before he started a family. Insanity's son now attends Rutgers, Insanity works in the area and is in New Brunswick at least 2-3 times per week. Insanity also goes to Rutgers basketball games - he donates to Rutgers Academics and Sports, once he even had a business that advertised with Rutgers.

Just for clarity - Whitebus is not a friend of Insanity. In fact we have had a few disagreements on this very board. However no one here except for the Storyteller Jaydog questions WhiteBus dedication, commitment and ties to Rutgers. If JayDog was truly the 20-year season ticket holder and Rutgers forum devotee he claims to be......JayDog would surely know about Whitebus and his dog.....who had since passed.....but of course as the long time Rutgers fan that JayDog claims to be he certainly would know that......😂

What links many of us all together here is our love for Rutgers sports. However "many of us" does not include the posers and trolls who also frequent this place. Insanity is neither angry nor grumpy.....however Insanity does have a fatal flaw.....that being an inpulsive need to call out self aggrandizing insecure little braggert a-hole dbag posing liars such as JayDog Storyteller.
 
JayDog Storyteller seems pretty defensive in this post. Perhaps JayDog needs to learn to read because as they say...."Reading is Fundamental" - but maybe poor Jaydog was of too low intelligence to pick up a book or interpret anything in writing beyond a 180 Character tweet?

Insanity did not wish death upon JayDog.....rather what Insanity actually said was that if JayDog dropped dead, Insanity would not care. If JayDog was versed in any type of reading comprehension, he might be able to understand the difference between what he thought was posted versus what was actually posted. Sadly though, JayDog appears to be so full of himself to worry about such frivolous things such as being able to read.

Insanity did not go to the previous spring game as Insanity was in Nashville for his birthday with family and friends. Of particular interest here is that Insanity has his own friends and tailgates with them at RU Games.......he is not so insecure that he needs to pretend to be friends with other posters that he does not know or because he happened to stop by a tailgate.

Insanity has been to many Spring Games often coupled with Rutgers Spring Fests, Rutgers Parents Days & Cook Ag. Field Days. Insanity was a fan of Rutgers basketball and football before he even attended Rutgers. Insanity attended Rutgers (as did his brother), Insanity's best friends attended Rutgers, many of whom were also Fraternity Brothers of Insanity. Some of those friends/brothers in fact post on these boards. Insanity even lived in New Brunswick and then surrounding towns after he graduated and before he started a family. Insanity's son now attends Rutgers, Insanity works in the area and is in New Brunswick at least 2-3 times per week. Insanity also goes to Rutgers basketball games - he donates to Rutgers Academics and Sports, once he even had a business that advertised with Rutgers.

Just for clarity - Whitebus is not a friend of Insanity. In fact we have had a few disagreements on this very board. However no one here except for the Storyteller Jaydog questions WhiteBus dedication, commitment and ties to Rutgers. If JayDog was truly the 20-year season ticket holder and Rutgers forum devotee he claims to be......JayDog would surely know about Whitebus and his dog.....who had since passed.....but of course as the long time Rutgers fan that JayDog claims to be he certainly would know that......😂

What links many of us all together here is our love for Rutgers sports. However "many of us" does not include the posers and trolls who also frequent this place. Insanity is neither angry nor grumpy.....however Insanity does have a fatal flaw.....that being an inpulsive need to call out self aggrandizing insecure little braggert a-hole dbag posing liars such as JayDog Storyteller.
JayDog has not heard the term poser since approximately 6th grade, when the skater crew was ranking on the jocks for wearing Airwalks
Impressive verbiage in the early 90's for a bunch of 12-year-olds, but rather childish, yet equally corny, for adults to repeat

JayDog likes how Insanity is now speaking in third person, as he's become confident enough in himself (and, by all accounts, doesn't seem to be a poser) to express freely to the masses

As JayDog previously stated, J has tailgated mostly in Purple throughout the years. Manning the grill whilst consuming cold beverages are of upmost importance for JD, so he wasn't looking for, nor can remember seeing, furry creatures, nor alleged posers, in Purple

Typically, J would swing by a few tailgates in the Blue and Yellow lots respectively on the way to RCBeta's tailgate in Scarlet (which, as far as J can tell, is poser-free), usually showing up there ~45 minutes before game time. However, although J likes the Boardwalk idea, the ear piercing music really isn't his thing, so he's since largely skipped the Blue/Yellow situation and gone straight to Beta's set up from purple (sans the opener last year, when J when Mrs. Smooth and the kiddo came, parked in Blue, saw my guy Nuts, talked some lax parents, then left for Scarlet, albeit a bit prematurely as the loud music from the Boardwalk was unappealing to Mrs. JD and JD's daughter)

JD is an FSU fan first, and has never shied away from that
JD loves Rutgers though, and like's Jay's stated multiple times, even after J moves to the great state of Florida, will continue to support our Scarlet Knights from the Sunshine State

J doesn't think he's a poser, or a braggart, nor an ahole, dbag, self aggrandizing, or any of Insanity's other hurtful insults
Moreover, J actually takes those names a badge of honor, and thanks Insanity for caring enough about J to label him with such ruthless verbiage

In summation, whether Insanity likes it or not (and deep down, I'm pretty sure he does), JayDog will continue attending games and being a vibrant, valuable and integral part of the Rutgers message board community. J really likes it here, likes most of the posters, and has no plans of leaving anytime soon, if ever

Now, if you'll excuse J, he's going to finish planning his spring training trip to see his father, Smooth Sr.
J has often times referred to him as the Baddest Man on the Planet (or, the BMOTP for short), but never, not even in J's rebellious teenage years, did J ever call Smooth Sr. anything less than Dad, let alone refer to him a poser
 
It doesn't have the weekly ratings by team, it has them by game

Check out some of the big-time games we've had the past few years (Bama, LSU x 2, Ole Miss, UGA, etc.)
Monster ratings, and prime time games
You don't get the prime-time slot, on a continual basis, by not generate big $$ ratings

Again, check out the link I posted on here, putting us at 14th during a fairly pedestrian stretch
https://chopchat.com/2022/07/02/fsu...ll-top-15-nationally-depsite-last-five-years/

Additionally, we're significantly weighed down, ratings wise, by playing in the ACC
Put us in the B1G or SEC, and we'd shoot a lot farther up the rankings by playing teams that actually have fans (Clemson, Miami, ND)
*** Texas should, and is, much higher than 14, but was also weighed down by playing in the Big 12

Right now, in the ACC, we're mid second tier ratings wise
Throw us in B1G or SEC, we'd likely be upper second tier, or lower first tier (still below OSU/UM, etc.)
They have the ratings for the games each week so all the figures are there. All you have to do is get a pencil and a piece of paper and do a little simple arithmetic and you can figure out the statistics that you were looking for.

Regarding your argument about the ratings for Florida State going up if they play better teams, you can say that about anybody.

Here's the point I'm making. It's got nothing to do with trashing Florida State. You said yourself that Florida state is in the second tier of the ratings.

What I'm saying is, given the huge amount of money that the Big Ten and the SEC now make, only those top tier schools are going to generate enough money to make it worthwhile for those conferences to expand.

To make it worthwhile for a conference to expand, the new teams will have to do two things.

One, bring in at least enough revenue so that splitting the pie extra ways, the conference will still break even.

Two, the new schools have to bring additional revenue so that the the payout per school increases.

Given how much money that the SEC and the Big Ten are now making, the new schools are going to have to generate a TON of Revenue to meet those two criteria. What I'm saying is, the only schools that are going to be able to do that at this point are going to be the top tier ratings generators.
 
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They have the ratings for the games each week so all the figures are there. All you have to do is get a pencil and a piece of paper and do a little simple arithmetic and you can figure out the statistics that you were looking for.

Regarding your argument about the ratings for Florida State going up if they play better teams, you can say that about anybody.

Here's the point I'm making. It's got nothing to do with trashing Florida State. You said yourself that Florida state is in the second tier of the ratings.

What I'm saying is, given the huge amount of money that the Big Ten and the SEC now make, only those top tier schools are going to generate enough money to make it worthwhile for those conferences to expand.

To make it worthwhile for a conference to expand, the new teams will have to do two things.

One, bring in at least enough revenue so that splitting the pie extra ways, the conference will still break even.

Two, the new schools have to bring additional revenue so that the the payout per school increases.

Given how much money that the SEC and the Big Ten are now making, the new schools are going to have to generate a TON of Revenue to meet those two criteria. What I'm saying is, the only schools that are going to be able to do that at this point are going to be the top tier ratings generators.
Regarding your argument about the ratings for Florida State going up if they play better teams, you can say that about anybody.
Not really. There's a reason we consistently play in prime-time games, against prime-time teams. That' doesn't happen by mistake

Yes, we're second tier
There's the OSU level with a handful of schools, and everyone else
My point is, you throw us in the B1G or SEC, we're right on the precipitous of Tier 1 (not at OSU's level, but a tick below)

Re. your assertion for worthwhile to expand encompasses revenue (true) and payout increases (true), would the B1G take A & M? I think most people would say yes

A & M's ratings, sans the Manziel years, are solid Tier 2
They've been in the SEC for a decent amount of time, yet haven't cracked the UT echelon, nor ever will
Additionally, the cable box angle that helped Rutgers get into the B1G a decade ago is now out the window

There's a few schools these leagues are looking at. Mainly from the ACC are you guys, us, ND and UNC
Not saying the rest don't have a chance to get in (not BC/Cuse/Wake), but those are the big fish right now
 
Regarding your argument about the ratings for Florida State going up if they play better teams, you can say that about anybody.
Not really. There's a reason we consistently play in prime-time games, against prime-time teams. That' doesn't happen by mistake

Yes, we're second tier
There's the OSU level with a handful of schools, and everyone else
My point is, you throw us in the B1G or SEC, we're right on the precipitous of Tier 1 (not at OSU's level, but a tick below)

Re. your assertion for worthwhile to expand encompasses revenue (true) and payout increases (true), would the B1G take A & M? I think most people would say yes

A & M's ratings, sans the Manziel years, are solid Tier 2
They've been in the SEC for a decent amount of time, yet haven't cracked the UT echelon, nor ever will
Additionally, the cable box angle that helped Rutgers get into the B1G a decade ago is now out the window

There's a few schools these leagues are looking at. Mainly from the ACC are you guys, us, ND and UNC
Not saying the rest don't have a chance to get in (not BC/Cuse/Wake), but those are the big fish right now
Yes really. The big ratings game you're talking about or matched up against other teams and their responsible for a chunk of those ratings as well. That goes back to my point. Yeah anybody who's playing at Ohio State will get better Ravens than normally get. Anybody who's playing Michigan will get better ratings than they normally get.

In regards to your question by A&M, I don't really care what most people would say. I care what the actual conference would do. At this point, no the Big Ten is not likely to take A&M even if they should be available. And it's for the reason I mentioned to you. The Big Ten makes so much money now, the new schools would have to bring in a ton of money to make it worthwhile to expand. If you actually look at these numbers, I don't see the numbers that A&M puts up being able to make enough money to increase the revenue that the Big Ten gets at this point.
 
Yes really. The big ratings game you're talking about or matched up against other teams and their responsible for a chunk of those ratings as well. That goes back to my point. Yeah anybody who's playing at Ohio State will get better Ravens than normally get. Anybody who's playing Michigan will get better ratings than they normally get.

In regards to your question by A&M, I don't really care what most people would say. I care what the actual conference would do. At this point, no the Big Ten is not likely to take A&M even if they should be available. And it's for the reason I mentioned to you. The Big Ten makes so much money now, the new schools would have to bring in a ton of money to make it worthwhile to expand. If you actually look at these numbers, I don't see the numbers that A&M puts up being able to make enough money to increase the revenue that the Big Ten gets at this point.
Then why don't they consistently put Clemson in those prime-time games?
B/c they wouldn't generate the ratings FSU does
Hence, proving my point

If you don't think the B1G would take A & M, I don't know what to tell you
Might not be now, but they'll take em, eventually (could be the 2031 timeline w/the renegiotion of contracts) if they become available

B1G is looking to be national
They've publicly stated it
They just took 4 west coast teams - 2 of which (UCLA and Washington) which aren't nearly half the brands FSU is

Where 2 big states is B1G missing?
Florida and Texas

You guys won't be left out
Too big of a brand
Neither will UNC or FSU
 


Interesting that TX and OK got partial shares considering they just joined this year. Might have been part of what ESPN would pay with them leaving the Big12 early - think they were destined to initially join in 2025.

The Big distributions will be 75-80ish with nothing for USC, UCLA, OR, or WA. At least i don't think any of the PAC get money.
 
Interesting that TX and OK got partial shares considering they just joined this year. Might have been part of what ESPN would pay with them leaving the Big12 early - think they were destined to initially join in 2025.

The Big distributions will be 75-80ish with nothing for USC, UCLA, OR, or WA. At least i don't think any of the PAC get money.
Has it been officially determined when we (Rutgers) get full B1G share? I've seen/heard so much conflicting information on this
 
Interesting that TX and OK got partial shares considering they just joined this year. Might have been part of what ESPN would pay with them leaving the Big12 early - think they were destined to initially join in 2025.

The Big distributions will be 75-80ish with nothing for USC, UCLA, OR, or WA. At least i don't think any of the PAC get money.
They didn't get a full share because the SEC did not have the TV rights to those schools last year.
 
They didn't get a full share because the SEC did not have the TV rights to those schools last year.
I know... why get any share is what i meant, unless ESPN decided to give them as part of them leaving the Big12. TX and OK joined for the fall 2024- spring 25 year and that payment was for FY ending in June of 2024.

For the B10, it could actually be close to 90M if the 7 year contract was significantly less on year 1 because of no USC/UCLA. Or due to CBS not being able to broadcast at a premium slot due to SEC game of the week. That is why my guess is 75-80M.
 
Has it been officially determined when we (Rutgers) get full B1G share? I've seen/heard so much conflicting information on this
I think we are still 1-3 years from a full share. but we might be paying some back still

As far as what the conference distributes, last year we received only 2M less(60.5M vs 58.9M)... so it won't be off what the B10 formally announces as payments
 
Interesting that TX and OK got partial shares considering they just joined this year. Might have been part of what ESPN would pay with them leaving the Big12 early - think they were destined to initially join in 2025.

The Big distributions will be 75-80ish with nothing for USC, UCLA, OR, or WA. At least i don't think any of the PAC get money.
Actually surprised to see that. I remember when it happened the reports were they were going to get a full share immediately. There was no bump in revenue in addition to what each school was already getting but Texas/OU were suppose to get the same share. Don’t know what changed.

I don’t know that the new SEC GOTW deal with ESPN is in those figures. I think that will show up next year.
 
I know... why get any share is what i meant, unless ESPN decided to give them as part of them leaving the Big12. TX and OK joined for the fall 2024- spring 25 year and that payment was for FY ending in June of 2024.

For the B10, it could actually be close to 90M if the 7 year contract was significantly less on year 1 because of no USC/UCLA. Or due to CBS not being able to broadcast at a premium slot due to SEC game of the week. That is why my guess is 75-80M.
Because it only affected their home games. Texas and OU were shown under the SEC contract when they played on the road.
 
Actually surprised to see that. I remember when it happened the reports were they were going to get a full share immediately. There was no bump in revenue in addition to what each school was lately getting but Texas/OU were suppose to get the same share. Don’t know what changed.

I don’t know that the new SEC GOTW deal with ESPN is in those figures. I think that will show up next year.
the 300M per year bump for SEC GOTW started this year and will figure into next years payouts. That should bump them 18M upfront to 25M on the tail end. It was a 21.5M average per team per year contract. What is unknown is the original contract. It is a 20 year contract. I know the SEC hasn't wanted to do a 9th game because ESPN didn't want to pay for it. They are probably happy with their existing deal.



Because it only affected their home games. Texas and OU were shown under the SEC contract when they played on the road.
I think i remember something like that.....
 
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the 300M per year bump for SEC GOTW started this year and will figure into next years payouts. That should bump them 18M upfront to 25M on the tail end. It was a 21.5M average per team per year contract. What is unknown is the original contract. It is a 20 year contract. I know the SEC hasn't wanted to do a 9th game because ESPN didn't want to pay for it. They are probably happy with their existing deal.
Yea the main contract was a 20 year deal and the SEC GOTW is a 10 year deal and they’re lined up to expire at the same time in 2034.
 
SEC is so lucky CBS had the GOTW.

ESPN would have had the SEC by the balls as well. TX and OK easily would have begged to join the B10.
Unfortunately for the ACC, their contract was for all the games.
 
Then why don't they consistently put Clemson in those prime-time games?
B/c they wouldn't generate the ratings FSU does
Hence, proving my point

If you don't think the B1G would take A & M, I don't know what to tell you
Might not be now, but they'll take em, eventually (could be the 2031 timeline w/the renegiotion of contracts) if they become available

B1G is looking to be national
They've publicly stated it
They just took 4 west coast teams - 2 of which (UCLA and Washington) which aren't nearly half the brands FSU is

Where 2 big states is B1G missing?
Florida and Texas

You guys won't be left out
Too big of a brand
Neither will UNC or FSU
Have you ever actually counted up the number of Primetime games that either School is playing? To be honest with you most of the Prime Time games are SEC or Big Ten schools.

Dismissing the A&M thing out of hand is dodging it. You got to show the A&M is going to bring in more than the Big Ten is making now. That's a huge amount of Revenue that's going to have to be generated by them. You're just tossing this out there without anything to back up the point
 
Have you ever actually counted up the number of Primetime games that either School is playing? To be honest with you most of the Prime Time games are SEC or Big Ten schools.

Dismissing the A&M thing out of hand is dodging it. You got to show the A&M is going to bring in more than the Big Ten is making now. That's a huge amount of Revenue that's going to have to be generated by them. You're just tossing this out there without anything to back up the point
Of course Prime Time games are going to involve teams from the SEC & B1G
What's not a given is who's going to play them - and, judging by the # we've gotten over the years, plus the game ratings in those time slots, there's a reason why FSU keeps getting selected

You're dismissing A & M b/c it doesn't fit your narrative
Why would the SEC have admitted them if they didn't bring in additional revenue to the conference?

As much as I clown on them for being a cult, they have a massive fan base and are one if, if not the, wealthiest programs in the nation

Again, I'm not saying they'd bring them in now - but eventually, if they're available (and you'd have to think they would be as one of one of the primary reasons they joined the SEC was to get out of Bevo's shadow, only to get screwed by the league, behind their back no less, when they added them), I can absolutely see where the B1G would grab them

It checks off every metric they're looking for and makes entirely too much sense for them not to
 
Has it been officially determined when we (Rutgers) get full B1G share? I've seen/heard so much conflicting information on this

I think we are still 1-3 years from a full share. but we might be paying some back still

Well Spanky knows that.........ah, shit, I'm not speaking in this third person style. We are currently past the point where we get a full share, however, we took a loan for, I believe, for 2018-2020, so for the 5-6 years after that, we are getting the full share minus a chunk of the loan amount. I have graphics at home which I'll post later: unfortunately my new employer bans a lot of sites at the firewall, including imgur where I host my graphics.
 
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