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OT: New ACC Deal To Reward Clemson and FSU?

The issue with that though, is that when the Raycom deal happened, the contract wasn't for 20 years.
 
Sorry AL

Pitt new AD Allen Greene comments.

Right now the best way to acquire talent is through money (NIL). It used to be about scholarships and facilities and some of the shiny stuff. It went from Glitz and Glam to Green. LOL

Court case on cap resolution coming soon.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
I haven't read the lawsuit, but I'd assume it did cost the ACC money as they could have sold it to someone else, and / or for a higher amount, yet it went to Raycom (otherwise, why would FSU put it in the lawsuit, and why was Swofford shitting his pants when the info became public)?

Furthermore, it's nepotism at its finest and wreaks of corruption, which, coming from that institution, is not the least bit surprising

This kind of dialogue - the constant carping at the ACC - explains why the Big Ten and SEC do not want FSU.
 
It did not cost the ACC money. As I explained before in my previous post, back at that time ESPN was syndicating some of it's college football programming. They did that with other conferences, even including the SEC. It was a common practice back at that time.

With the syndication deals, ESPN had already paid the conferences for those rights. ESPN just resold them to a syndication outlet. Again, they did the exact same thing with the SEC at that time as well. Nobody lost any money on that. They were paid for those rights by ESPN. All ESPN did was just syndicate them.

If you're trying to claim that the ACC could have sold those rights that were syndicated to Raycom to someone else, no they cannot have. They already sold them to ESPN.

Simply adding that ESPN recently sold off two CFB playoff games to Warner Brothers. Common practice - as you said.
 
This kind of dialogue - the constant carping at the ACC - explains why the Big Ten and SEC do not want FSU.
LOL
That literally as zero do with it
It's about dollars and cents

As big of a pain in the ass as Texas and ND are, both the SEC (which already jumped at them) and the B1G (which would jump on them in a heartbeat) have had / would have zero issues taking them

It's about who can make the conferences the most money
Not whose feelings get hurt or what school was mean to another (hell, the SEC screwed over Aggie a few years after admitting them by taking Bevo)
 
JDog,

Love the FSU banter you provide on this board but the exit fee could be lowered to a $1 and FSU would not be a take for BIG because it’s not an AAU member, does not bring enough market share to sweeten tv contracts, not top 3 desired from ACC (ND, UNC and UVA) and not top one desired in the state of FL (I.e. Miami) and was a big turn off with school leadership that throws its member league under the bus in public. The overarching factor for the SEC not wanting FSU is because it already owns the market.

Unless FSU would be attracted to join the B12 which they would no doubt want FSU, FSU has no choice but to smooth things over with the ACC for years to come.

GO RU
I would agree with this too.
 
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I would agree with this too.
As stated previously, the AAU angle, though definitely preferred (you can't be WVU or Louisville and try getting into the B1G), is not a deal breaker, especially if you're en route to admission

Also, UVA, though a fantastic school, isn't in the Top 3 (it's ND, UNC, and FSU, presumedly in that order)
Miami, though great history, also isn't ranked above FSU in terms of desirability

GOR has been reportedly shortened to 2031, so, if all things being reported are accurate, I'd assume they'd be looking to make noise / leave around ~2028/2029
 
As stated previously, the AAU angle, though definitely preferred (you can't be WVU or Louisville and try getting into the B1G), is not a deal breaker, especially if you're en route to admission

Also, UVA, though a fantastic school, isn't in the Top 3 (it's ND, UNC, and FSU, presumedly in that order)
Miami, though great history, also isn't ranked above FSU in terms of desirability

GOR has been reportedly shortened to 2031, so, if all things being reported are accurate, I'd assume they'd be looking to make noise / leave around ~2028/2029
I have not seen anyone say that the GOR has been shortened to 2031. Otherwise the contract would only be extended through 2031, not 2036.

What i have heard is that the ACC and FSU/Clemson are chatting about reducing the GOR payouts as of 2031. so if they had to pay 500M Today.... 250M in 2031, that 250M would maybe be 125M in 2031. but in 2030, it would still be 300M plus the exit fee.

so they might start making noise in 2028-29, but it would be to leave 2031 anyway unless they want to fork over the money. but hey they would get out for 250M today so maybe they would pay that in 2030 if the B10 wants to include them in their new contract.
 
I have not seen anyone say that the GOR has been shortened to 2031. Otherwise the contract would only be extended through 2031, not 2036.

What i have heard is that the ACC and FSU/Clemson are chatting about reducing the GOR payouts as of 2031. so if they had to pay 500M Today.... 250M in 2031, that 250M would maybe be 125M in 2031. but in 2030, it would still be 300M plus the exit fee.

so they might start making noise in 2028-29, but it would be to leave 2031 anyway unless they want to fork over the money. but hey they would get out for 250M today so maybe they would pay that in 2030 if the B10 wants to include them in their new contract.
That's what I meant, buyout $$ not actual GOR (GOR option was actually picked up as my understanding is they had until 2/1 to do so and extend it and cable contract from 2027 to 2036, another 9 years)
 
That's what I meant, buyout $$ not actual GOR (GOR option was actually picked up as my understanding is they had until 2/1 to do so and extend it and cable contract from 2027 to 2036, another 9 years)
The GOR wasn't picked. Meaning, it can't be picked up, given that it's an interal contract between the schools and the conference.
 
As stated previously, the AAU angle, though definitely preferred (you can't be WVU or Louisville and try getting into the B1G), is not a deal breaker, especially if you're en route to admission

Also, UVA, though a fantastic school, isn't in the Top 3 (it's ND, UNC, and FSU, presumedly in that order)
Miami, though great history, also isn't ranked above FSU in terms of desirability

GOR has been reportedly shortened to 2031, so, if all things being reported are accurate, I'd assume they'd be looking to make noise / leave around ~2028/2029

Moving goalposts. Again.
 
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Moving goalposts. Again.
What are the goal post being moved?

You may wanna find your religion and then give me the post answer, but chances are you won’t find either

Per the information I’ve been given, I’ve remain transparent, throughout this whole ordeal.. while you, through valiant attempts at continued flaming, are still searching deep inside your soul for the true meaning of life
 
That's what I meant, buyout $$ not actual GOR (GOR option was actually picked up as my understanding is they had until 2/1 to do so and extend it and cable contract from 2027 to 2036, another 9 years)
The gor has not been shortened. The ACC is going to talk with Clemson and Florida State about possibly reducing the buyout after 2031, but those negotiations have not even been completed yet.
 
As stated previously, the AAU angle, though definitely preferred (you can't be WVU or Louisville and try getting into the B1G), is not a deal breaker, especially if you're en route to admission

Also, UVA, though a fantastic school, isn't in the Top 3 (it's ND, UNC, and FSU, presumedly in that order)
Miami, though great history, also isn't ranked above FSU in terms of desirability

GOR has been reportedly shortened to 2031, so, if all things being reported are accurate, I'd assume they'd be looking to make noise / leave around ~2028/2029
Make what “noise” and move where?

GO RU
 
Which is what I just said
The payment has not been reduced though. The conference and Clemson/Florida St are going to discuss it, but that hasn't happened yet.

There also was not an option on the GOR. the only option was on the TV contract with ESPN.
 
The payment has not been reduced though. The conference and Clemson/Florida St are going to discuss it, but that hasn't happened yet.

There also was not an option on the GOR. the only option was on the TV contract with ESPN.
I was under the impression it was already (or soon to be) agreed upon
 
It's like a turtle on its back. The legs are moving at a furious pace but still not going anywhere!
This is your MO Bus
You talk shit, then cry to the mods like a bitch, then cop pleas like nothing's happening

If I'm your age, and flame the way you flame, and spend as much time on the board as you do, and overall, are just a negative, blabbering, old ass, grouchy always looking for issues no good prick, please just put me out of my misery

I'm honestly attempting to play nice in the sandbox, but my God, in case you haven't realized it yet... you are seriously one miserable piece of shit
 
Seriously Bus, when is the last time you contributed anything positive to this board? Or. at a minimum, to this thread?
We're here talking ball - big kid, big boy, big time football

We're having solid conversations, and all you do, just like always, is act like a complete jerkoff, contributing nothing positive, noteworthy, or at a minimum, remotely factual

For the love of God, please stay the **** out of these threads
Talk about bike riding, Revolutionay war action scenes, birthday parties for kids that aren't even yours, or anything not related to college athletics

But leave the big kid college football talk to the big kids, and stay in the sandbox with the bullshit OT nonsense like you're comfortable with
 
Me cry to the mods?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Stop taking meth!
I'm not flaming, you are. So angry about FSU season and taking out on anyone that is enjoying your miserable season.
First off you never try to play nice. Can't take a joke about your BS not coming true. And I see a second post. Like a child stamping his feet not getting his way. This is hysterical! Beyond hysterical 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the comedy show!
I don't have to stay out of threads of the ACC dumpster fire. Let me remind you this is a Rutgers Board not a FSU board. Go to the FSU Board but they must have banned you! The Big College talk is the Big Ten. Go argue with the lowly ACC crowd. Funny I didn't even quote you but you go ape shit on a great joke. Thin skin idiot! With two posts about a turtle joke. Gold Jerry, solid gold!
Cause you’re a bitch when you talk shit, and then you act like you’re not talking shit

I was man enough to admit I took it too far last time, but the problem is is you just keep poking people, and then when they get really pissed off because you’re acting like a ****ing asshole, you sit there and act like you didn’t do anything wrong

I’m telling you for the last time, stay to **** off my nuts and stay the **** out of these threads

You don’t know a goddamn thing about anything related to realignment or college football, so worry about the revolutionary war stuff, the weather stuff and the biking and stay the hell out of things you clearly know nothing about
 
What on earth have you done to further the program?

Do you have season tickets? You pay for parking, a member the R fund, do you fund NIL?

Tell me the positive contributions that you give to the program, and I’ll lay off

All I see is an angry old bastard continue to flame away and provides literally nothing of value, that goes and cries like a bitch as soon as somebody calls them out on their bullshit
 
This is your MO Bus
You talk shit, then cry to the mods like a bitch, then cop pleas like nothing's happening

If I'm your age, and flame the way you flame, and spend as much time on the board as you do, and overall, are just a negative, blabbering, old ass, grouchy always looking for issues no good prick, please just put me out of my misery

I'm honestly attempting to play nice in the sandbox, but my God, in case you haven't realized it yet... you are seriously one miserable piece of shit
Me cry to the mods?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Stop taking meth!
I'm not flaming, you are. So angry about FSU season and taking out on anyone that is enjoying your miserable season.
First off you never try to play nice. Can't take a joke about BS not coming true. And I see a second post. Like a child stamping his feet not getting his way. This is hysterical! Beyond hysterical 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the comedy show!
I don't have to stay out of threads of the ACC dumpster fire. Let me remind you this is a Rutgers Board not a FSU board. Go to the FSU Board but they must have banned you! The Big College talk is the Big Ten. Go argue with the lowly ACC crowd. Funny I didn't even quote you but you go ape shit on a great joke. Thin skin idiot! With two posts about a turtle joke. Gold Jerry, solid gold
 
What on earth have you done to further the program?

Do you have season tickets? You pay for parking, a member the R fund, do you fund NIL?

Tell me the positive contributions that you give to the program, and I’ll lay off

All I see is an angry old bastard continue to flame away and provides literally nothing of value, that goes and cries like a bitch as soon as somebody calls them out on their bullshit
I've done way more than you have! It's amazing you go bonkers with stupid questions like that. It's absolutely awesome to live rent free in your head!
You bring nothing to this Rutgers board because you just cry and make crap up about FSU.
 
I've done way more than you have! It's amazing you go bonkers with stupid questions like that. It's absolutely awesome to live rent free in your head!
You bring nothing to this Rutgers board because you just cry and make crap up about FSU.
Lol rent free
That’s my line ya old fart

Do you have season tix? And, of equal to greater importance, do you donate to NIL ?
 
Lol rent free
That’s my line ya old fart

Do you have season tix? And, of equal to greater importance, do you donate to NIL ?
I know it was your former line but the tide has turned.
You show your payments and I'll show my payments since 1984. Clown!
Big mouth and big BS.
This is so fun that your are crumbling over a turtle joke. Rent free!
 
I know it was your former line but the tide has turned.
You show your payments and I'll show my payments since 1984. Clown!
Big mouth and big BS.
This is so fun that your are crumbling over a turtle joke. Rent free!
I’ll show you my payments when we meet in person

Remember, you were the one that was too Puss meet face to face at Yankee Stadium

Honestly, I was surprised

A former athlete, allegedly in great shape riding bikes, someone that’s in revolutionary war history… but alas, the keyboard warrior decided not to come

Shocking, I tell you…
Truly shocking
 
I’ll show you my payments when we meet in person

Remember, you were the one that was too Puss meet face to face at Yankee Stadium

Honestly, I was surprised

A former athlete, allegedly in great shape riding bikes, someone that’s in revolutionary war history… but alas, the keyboard warrior decided not to come

Shocking, I tell you…
Truly shocking
What's shocking is your history on the Florida State Rivals site. Looks like you used to make money on fellow FSU fan for away games. Looks like something went wrong in 2021 and you had to add a 1 to your name, "because you went to premium" 🤣🤣Gullible people believed you and looks like you are currently banned since April 2023. I see your ticket selling days are over on the Osceola site. Great job 🤣
 
What's shocking is your history on the Florida State Rivals site. Looks like you used to make money on fellow FSU fan for away games. Looks like something went wrong in 2021 and you had to add a 1 to your name, "because you went to premium" 🤣🤣Gullible people believed you and looks like you are currently banned since April 2023. I see your ticket selling days are over on the Osceola site. Great job 🤣
Not banned anywhere
Jerry’s actually a good friend of mine - great guy and super funny

How about we meet at the spring game?
Maybe Spank’s tailgate?

Ill bring a bottle of wine and receipts
We can squash things - what say you?
 
Not banned anywhere
Jerry’s actually a good friend of mine - great guy and super funny

How about we meet at the spring game?
Maybe Spank’s tailgate?

Ill bring a bottle of wine and receipts
We can squash things - what say you?
🤣🤣🤣 Do I have to pay you for tickets to Rutgers games?? No need I have my own!!
"Jerry"?? No the posts are under Jaydogsmooth then Jaydogsmooth1. I'm guessing you are Jerry. Very entertaining looking at your past!
A failed football travel agent. 🤣🤣 Priceless
 
🤣🤣🤣 Do I have to pay you for tickets to Rutgers games?? No need I have my own!!
"Jerry"?? No the posts are under Jaydogsmooth then Jaydogsmooth1. I'm guessing you are Jerry. Very entertaining looking at your past!
A failed football travel agent. 🤣🤣 Priceless
You’d love Jerry
Great guy and super funny

Anyway, we meeting up at Spank’s tailgate on 4/26?
 
Seriously, lmk
My father in law makes some awesome home made wine - would love to formally meet you and break bread over some quality vino
Funny now that I outed your past you want to break bread. Also you said I cried to the mods. Ask @DJ Spanky if I ever complained about you or anyone except for the nut who makes 100s of fake names.
 
Funny now that I outed your past you want to break bread. Also you said I cried to the mods. Ask @DJ Spanky if I ever complained about you or anyone except for the nut who makes 100s of fake names.
You didn’t out anyone
I’m the same guy as I’ve always been
Nothing to hide on my end

How about you - anything to hide?
If not… Let’s chop it up at the spring game

I’m genuinely interested in meeting you - former athlete, bikes marathons, used to be a tailgating legend

No more keyboards, no more shit talk - just 2 dudes having a good time at a mutual friend’s tailgate, possibly putting our differences aside right there, where you used to play on the gridiron, on the banks…

You game?
 
You didn’t out anyone
I’m the same guy as I’ve always been
Nothing to hide on my end

How about you - anything to hide?
If not… Let’s chop it up at the spring game

I’m genuinely interested in meeting you - former athlete, bikes marathons, used to be a tailgating legend

No more keyboards, no more shit talk - just 2 dudes having a good time at a mutual friend’s tailgate, possibly putting our differences aside right there, where you used to play on the gridiron, on the banks…

You game?
You never mentioned you were a scalper and a fake travel agent. And never post anymore on the Osceola/FSU Board.
I have nothing to hide! I been an open book for since 1983 after I graduated. 2 sports Letterwinner. I was basically invisible from 2007 to 2019 as my Great Dane Scarlet was the four legged Queen of the Blue Lot (and later the Scarlet Lot) was the star at tailgates in every lot we visited earlier. Ask anyone about her and me and my famous Oktoberfest Oppo Suit. 🤣
You make me laugh that you think you're a great Rutgers fan without knowing the great former players that you never met. I'm not one of them but we meet up every game.
 
You never mentioned you were a scalper and a fake travel agent. And never post anymore on the Osceola/FSU Board.
I have nothing to hide! I been an open book for since 1983 after I graduated. 2 sports Letterwinner. I was basically invisible from 2007 to 2019 as my Great Dane Scarlet was the four legged Queen of the Blue Lot (and later the Scarlet Lot) was the star at tailgates in every lot we visited earlier. Ask anyone about her and me and my famous Oktoberfest Oppo Suit. 🤣
You make me laugh that you think you're a great Rutgers fan without knowing the great former players that you never met. I'm not one of them but we meet up every game.
Never been a scalper or fake travel agent, and my names not Jerry, but keep up the good fight

Maybe you can tell me some stories about when you played
Or your dog
Or both

At the spring game
Spanky’s tailgate
4/26

You in?
 
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