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OT: New Music (Released January 2020 or Later)

He looks like the creepy guys I see in my nightmares that throw me in a van and I’m never seen again.
Fred has had issues with his weight, and it looks like he may be trying to hide weight gain in that jumpsuit. Maybe he should do a song called Dad Bod? It can really suck getting older and trying to maintain weight/fitness. Trying to stay out of having to wear a jumpsuit myself.
 
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Fred has had issues with his weight, and it looks like he may be trying to hide weight gain in that jumpsuit. Maybe he should do a song called Dad Bod? It can really suck getting older and trying to maintain weight/fitness. Trying to stay out of having to wear a jumpsuit myself.
I thought maybe with the mustache and jumpsuit he was going for the just released from Rikers vibe.
Lol
Is that a wig?
 
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Limp Bizkit came up in my feed on my home page. Maybe we missed this gem?



Fred Durst has a new look again:



**** you mtv for making killing music in the late 90s with this garbage and the boybands

they are absolutely terrible and a parody of themselves

the thing is a good Limp cover band would be a better watch to go and see
 
**** you mtv for making killing music in the late 90s with this garbage and the boybands

they are absolutely terrible and a parody of themselves

the thing is a good Limp cover band would be a better watch to go and see

Producers realized they didn't have wait and "discover" talent - they could just package performers. Rap really lit that bonfire because its just chanting to a drum track.

I confess though that I liked some boy bands like Boyz 2 Men. They were very talented singers who made some epic songs (End of the Road). I liked Backstreet Boys too but they made nothing epic like Boyz.

Now the American boy bands are gone, and the Korean bands like BTS are all over the place. They are just fluffy cupcakes. Young girls like that "kuwaii' (cute) Yaoi Manga anime twink stuff
 
Producers realized they didn't have wait and "discover" talent - they could just package performers. Rap really lit that bonfire because its just chanting to a drum track.

I confess though that I liked some boy bands like Boyz 2 Men. They were very talented singers who made some epic songs (End of the Road). I liked Backstreet Boys too but they made nothing epic like Boyz.

Now the American boy bands are gone, and the Korean bands like BTS are all over the place. They are just fluffy cupcakes. Young girls like that "kuwaii' (cute) Yaoi Manga anime twink stuff
At the risk of beating a dead horse, there is nothing new to bad, commercialized pop music. You can go back at least to the 1950s and find plenty of it. Today , record labels and big music industry insiders have less influence on what kind of music reaches the masses than ever. . The technological revolution during the past 25 years has enabled artists, musicians of all types to get their music out to the public in more ways than ever. I’m 64 and can find significant amounts of young artists, bands that are creating very good, quality music that I enjoy. Music that I buy and performers that I pay to hear live. You have to dig for it. Will these artists, bands have the kind of broad popularity that existed back in the 1960s, 70s,80s? No. However, they are creating good music which is the point of it all. Additionally, the ongoing drumbeat and heavy criticism of rap/hip hop music by folks north of 50 years old is tiresome and a bit ironic. Rap/Hip Hop does not appeal to me personally on any emotional or spiritual level but it is now what rock music was from the 1950s - 1990s. Much of the criticism is very similar to that which was aimed at rock music in the 1950s and 1960s by the older, established society that grew up listening to Big Bands and crooners. It is the music of the ”street” and the outsider, which is what rock and roll was when it emerged. Culture, society constantly changes and evolves. Either evolve somewhat and accept it or just grow old and bitter.
 
At the risk of beating a dead horse, there is nothing new to bad, commercialized pop music. You can go back at least to the 1950s and find plenty of it. Today , record labels and big music industry insiders have less influence on what kind of music reaches the masses than ever. . The technological revolution during the past 25 years has enabled artists, musicians of all types to get their music out to the public in more ways than ever. I’m 64 and can find significant amounts of young artists, bands that are creating very good, quality music that I enjoy. Music that I buy and performers that I pay to hear live. You have to dig for it. Will these artists, bands have the kind of broad popularity that existed back in the 1960s, 70s,80s? No. However, they are creating good music which is the point of it all. Additionally, the ongoing drumbeat and heavy criticism of rap/hip hop music by folks north of 50 years old is tiresome and a bit ironic. Rap/Hip Hop does not appeal to me personally on any emotional or spiritual level but it is now what rock music was from the 1950s - 1990s. Much of the criticism is very similar to that which was aimed at rock music in the 1950s and 1960s by the older, established society that grew up listening to Big Bands and crooners. It is the music of the ”street” and the outsider, which is what rock and roll was when it emerged. Culture, society constantly changes and evolves. Either evolve somewhat and accept it or just grow old and bitter.
Amen!

You may need to keep :DeadHorse: :BeatDeadHorse:

it's the same folks who keep complaining in these types of threads about the current state of music
 
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At the risk of beating a dead horse, there is nothing new to bad, commercialized pop music. You can go back at least to the 1950s and find plenty of it. Today , record labels and big music industry insiders have less influence on what kind of music reaches the masses than ever. . The technological revolution during the past 25 years has enabled artists, musicians of all types to get their music out to the public in more ways than ever. I’m 64 and can find significant amounts of young artists, bands that are creating very good, quality music that I enjoy. Music that I buy and performers that I pay to hear live. You have to dig for it. Will these artists, bands have the kind of broad popularity that existed back in the 1960s, 70s,80s? No. However, they are creating good music which is the point of it all. Additionally, the ongoing drumbeat and heavy criticism of rap/hip hop music by folks north of 50 years old is tiresome and a bit ironic. Rap/Hip Hop does not appeal to me personally on any emotional or spiritual level but it is now what rock music was from the 1950s - 1990s. Much of the criticism is very similar to that which was aimed at rock music in the 1950s and 1960s by the older, established society that grew up listening to Big Bands and crooners. It is the music of the ”street” and the outsider, which is what rock and roll was when it emerged. Culture, society constantly changes and evolves. Either evolve somewhat and accept it or just grow old and bitter.

Lots of cliches and formulaic excuse making in there
There are some truths too since it is possible to "hunt down" decent music.
Tech does allow people to create stuff and stream it but that doesn't mean its mostly good.

I find age is used an excuse for a lot of garbage
2 Live Crew came out when I was in college and I knew it was garbage
When I was in high school I saw most rockers were drug addicted dirtbags dropping dead all over
I liked some rock but not most
I was more into R&B - they had some issues but not like the rockers
Now we have hits like Cardi B WAP song which is 100% certifiable garbage (look-up the lyrics)
Of course a lot the "music" glorifies criminality, debauchery and degradation
No surprise the murder rate is high among that crowd.

People who think they know music often dont when it comes to the way it affects people
Rhythm has hypnotic aspects that can have strong psychological effects
Bass slides music over from something people listen to to something they feel
Soldiers going into battle, athletes going into a game etc arent listening to Vivaldi's mandolins before a game.
No they are going to play tunes they "feel" and that fixates their minds (hypnosis)
They feel strong and superior - that pounding bass makes them feel like a tribal warrior.

That's the effect kids feel from rap chanting
The base lyrics are usually massively egocentric (rap traces back to WWF nonsense)
"I am the all - I am the richest - I am the baddest - I boff all the biznatches including yours" etc.
Its all hypnotic rubbish that can make many failing kids feel like they are strong when they aren't
They can also feel justified in degrading and abusing others - in being antisocial warriors.

Aristotle said spectacle is the lowest form of theater
Heavy rhythmic chanting is the lowest form of music - a reason most primitive tribes have only that form
The fact contemporary culture engages in it more and more does not mean progress is taking place
Actually it just the opposite and low culture rises as high culture decays
The Renaissance wasn't a 'rediscovery" of classical art
It was always around after the fall of ancient societies
The barbarians just didn't know how to appreciate it
We are going back to being barbarians and the evidence is everywhere in the news each day
I cant pick-up a guitar and play like Gilmour today but I could whip-up a rap chant easy



 
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Lots of cliches and formulaic excuse making in there
There are some truths too since it is possible to "hunt down" decent music.
Tech does allow people to create stuff and stream it but that doesn't mean its mostly good.

I find age is used an excuse for a lot of garbage
2 Live Crew came out when I was in college and I knew it was garbage
When I was in high school I saw most rockers were drug addicted dirtbags dropping dead all over
I liked some rock but not most
I was more into R&B - they had some issues but not like the rockers
Now we have hits like Cardi B WAP song which is 100% certifiable garbage (look-up the lyrics)
Of course a lot the "music" glorifies criminality, debauchery and degradation
No surprise the murder rate is high among that crowd.

People who think they know music often dont when it comes to the way it affects people
Rhythm has hypnotic aspects that can have strong psychological effects
Bass slides music over from something people listen to to something they feel
Soldiers going into battle, athletes going into a game etc arent listening to Vivaldi's mandolins before a game.
No they are going to play tunes they "feel" and that fixates their minds (hypnosis)
They feel strong and superior - that pounding bass makes them feel like a tribal warrior.

That's the effect kids feel from rap chanting
The base lyrics are usually massively egocentric (rap traces back to WWF nonsense)
"I am the all - I am the richest - I am the baddest - I boff all the biznatches including yours" etc.
Its all hypnotic rubbish that can make many failing kids feel like they are strong when they aren't
They can also feel justified in degrading and abusing others - in being antisocial warriors.

Aristotle said spectacle is the lowest form of theater
Heavy rhythmic chanting is the lowest form of music - a reason most primitive tribes have only that form
The fact contemporary culture engages in it more and more does not mean progress is taking place
Actually it just the opposite and low culture rises as high culture decays
The Renaissance wasn't a 'rediscovery" of classical art
It was always around after the fall of ancient societies
The barbarians just didn't know how to appreciate it
We are going back to being barbarians and the evidence is everywhere in the news each day
I cant pick-up a guitar and play like Gilmour today but I could whip-up a rap chant easy



could you really? i'd like to see you try. here's a benchmark for you to reach, if you think you can do it so easily.

 
The criticism and backlash against rock and roll when it became mainstream in the mid 1950s is not a cliche, it’s factual. It was derided as dangerous, immoral, base, animalistic, mysogynistic, simplistic. A type of music that promoted violence, sex, indecency among many other horrors. There was a concerted effort to limit or curb the music of the “jungle” and the “devil” that early rock and roll represented to many in the established, mainstream society. So by the late 1950s and early 1960s we had the likes of Pat Boone covering Little Richard songs. Popular music became very bland and sanitized. It was emergence of The Beatles and other more “acceptable” bands that changed the trajectory of rock, along with the many millions of young kids born after WWll.
 
could you really? i'd like to see you try. here's a benchmark for you to reach, if you think you can do it so easily.


That's low IQ stuff to me

The unwashed masses find rhyming, double entendres, word play etc to be signs of high intelligence and to me its just the opposite

Going back to hypnosis, a hypnotist will tell you his greatest tool in an authoritarian attitude and manner. Rappers can be good at sounding like avatars descended form a higher planes and "dropping bombs."

Objectively its drivel. I grew-up on black music from talented musicians who polished their skills in churches. Modern rappers are con artists and lots of smart black people know that. Rap has done a lot of damage. Not only is classical music dead but people miss the talented R&B artists that were more popular than cons who cant play a whistle or sing

Jazz musician Wynton Marsalis says rap and hip-hop are ‘more damaging than a statue of Robert E. Lee​


 
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The criticism and backlash against rock and roll when it became mainstream in the mid 1950s is not a cliche, it’s factual. It was derided as dangerous, immoral, base, animalistic, mysogynistic, simplistic. A type of music that promoted violence, sex, indecency among many other horrors. There was a concerted effort to limit or curb the music of the “jungle” and the “devil” that early rock and roll represented to many in the established, mainstream society. So by the late 1950s and early 1960s we had the likes of Pat Boone covering Little Richard songs. Popular music became very bland and sanitized. It was emergence of The Beatles and other more “acceptable” bands that changed the trajectory of rock, along with the many millions of young kids born after WWll.

Critics of rock weren't all wrong - a lot of it is debauchery
A lot of it was decent too but the seeds of musical devolution were in rock
Electric music marked the point where feeling music was becoming more the focus than listening to it
I'll never forget the Honor Society guys getting wasted and banging their heads on their cars with Robin Trower playing lol.
Sure lots of music was/is bland
Lots of food is bland and junk food is most popular
But its still junk food
Lots of music - like chanting to drum track is just junk food
I do like some rap but I like some earlier stuff more
I find even a lot of rap fans complain about contemporary rap
MM sounds like Daffy Duck most times but "Lose Yourself" was good
I like Coolio more than the Jay-Z talentless drug dealer
Tupac's "Dear Moma" is kind of iconic
Blondies' rap song was good
I like some Cage too because he's as "out-there" as anybody I've ever heard while still making sense


 
Critics of rock weren't all wrong - a lot of it is debauchery
A lot of it was decent too but the seeds of musical devolution were in rock
Electric music marked the point where feeling music was becoming more the focus than listening to it
I'll never forget the Honor Society guys getting wasted and banging their heads on their cars with Robin Trower playing lol.
Sure lots of music was/is bland
Lots of food is bland and junk food is most popular
But its still junk food
Lots of music - like chanting to drum track is just junk food
I do like some rap but I like some earlier stuff more
I find even a lot of rap fans complain about contemporary rap
MM sounds like Daffy Duck most times but "Lose Yourself" was good
I like Coolio more than the Jay-Z talentless drug dealer
Tupac's "Dear Moma" is kind of iconic
Blondies' rap song was good
I like some Cage too because he's as "out-there" as anybody I've ever heard while still making sense


fwiw, music has always been about feeling. whether it's from melancholic melody, the drive of bass and drums, the imagery of lyrics, or dissonance in sounds. each one of those components can evoke certain emotions, memories, or thoughts. each person connects with music in their own way, and to say that they're not "listening" to music is dismissive of that individual experience. whether it's the melancholy of a Chopin piece, a technical piece like one of Paganini's caprices, a Beatles pop rock song, BB King's blues guitar, Tool's dissonance and progressions, the syrupy pop music of BTS, a J. Cole verse over a cleverly sampled beat, you feel something when you hear it. whether it's admiration, disgust, indifference...you're feeling it.
 
fwiw, music has always been about feeling. whether it's from melancholic melody, the drive of bass and drums, the imagery of lyrics, or dissonance in sounds. each one of those components can evoke certain emotions, memories, or thoughts. each person connects with music in their own way, and to say that they're not "listening" to music is dismissive of that individual experience. whether it's the melancholy of a Chopin piece, a technical piece like one of Paganini's caprices, a Beatles pop rock song, BB King's blues guitar, Tool's dissonance and progressions, the syrupy pop music of BTS, a J. Cole verse over a cleverly sampled beat, you feel something when you hear it. whether it's admiration, disgust, indifference...you're feeling it.

By "feeling" I mean physical feeling and not emotional
Taylor Swift made some nice music in her early years
As she got older and became a cash cow more of hjer songs had to have the Boom Boom Boom bass track
The masses want to feel the boom boom
Same thing with Billie Eilish
She made some smooth/soft songs with her bro
And then after fame the bad drum get shoe horned in to sell more to the boom booms

A lot of speakers today are geared for bass
People shopping for bluetooth speakers usually fall into two markets
One groups of speakers and can do mids, melody etc. but be bad at bass
The you have the dancers/rappers who want the boom boom
I don't care what people like what but I know when
When people recommend a speaker to you, ask them what they listen to so you get right speakers


 
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