Heard that from several people who know personally know Cohen. didn’t want to be here. Even if he did want to be here, the Mets were going to give him a Kershaw type deal, maybe 2 years but not much more. however, some on th meets wondered if he would spend a longer time on the injured list than necessary.FWIW on Degrom per reports over past few years :
- Was not a good teammate
- Didn’t hang out with any Mets
- Did not participate in any Mets off the field activities
- Would leave locker room minutes after game ended
- Interviews were a chore. He would smile for them however brood off camera.
-Was a loner
- Told agent not to give Mets opportunity to match offer etc
Bottom line is that Mets knew he was leaving as he was not all in even with World Series hopes last year.
What I am reading is that if Verlander pitches 140 innings in 2024, then he receives a $35M player option for 2025, which he would be free to take or leave.The option vests for 2025 if he pitches 140 innings in 2024. $35 million option.
If Verlander was "committed to winning" why would he be leaving the defending World Series champions ?
I think he and Kate really want to be in NY. I’m betting they live in the city.If Verlander was "committed to winning" why would he be leaving the defending World Series champions ?
That's the only site that mentions it turns into a player option. Puma and Heyman saying it vests at 140 IP and that's it. We'll find out but I think trade rumors site is incorrect.What I am reading is that if Verlander pitches 140 innings in 2024, then he receives a $35M player option for 2025, which he would be free to take or leave.
If he does not pitch 140 innings in 2024, then there is no option and the contract ends.
Mets Sign Justin Verlander
The Mets have officially signed the defending AL Cy Young winner, announcing Wednesday evening they've inked Justin Verlander to a two-year …www.mlbtraderumors.com
Verlander’s deal, with the option included, is close to what the Mets offered deGrom (about $110 million over three years). The Post’s Jon Heyman reported that Verlander’s option will vest if he pitches 140 innings in 2024. The deal also includes a full no-trade clause.
Acting swiftly following Jacob deGrom’s departure to the Rangers last week, the Mets on Monday reached agreement on a two-year deal worth $86.6 million with Justin Verlander, according to industry sources. The contract includes a third-year vesting option that could bring the value of the deal to $121.6 million.
Odds of Texas being there are pretty slim, but it would be cool.This didn’t age well. 😂. Happy about signing and offsets my grieving over loss of degrom. Who is next? I’m going to guess Senga and remember we need another power bat and bullpen etc. Fun times ! How fun would it be for a Verlander / Degrom pitching matchup in late August at Cirifield?
Always did!! 👀👀
I seriously doubt that deGrom will be pitching that weekend, whether by his choice or not.This didn’t age well. 😂. Happy about signing and offsets my grieving over loss of degrom. Who is next? I’m going to guess Senga and remember we need another power bat and bullpen etc. Fun times ! How fun would it be for a Verlander / Degrom pitching matchup in late August at Cirifield?
Spotrac has the Mets estimated payroll at $263 million with the tax threshold at $233 million. This includes Verlander and the estimated arb awards for players eligible. It does not include any other FA signings so the number could go above $300 million.Where do the Mets stand on the "Cohen tax" since signing Diaz and Verlander?
If we re-sign Nimmo and some pitchers I don't see how we don't go above that.Isn't the highest tax $290 million? I don't think he'll want to go over that.
Competitive Balance Tax
Definition
Each year, clubs that exceed a predetermined payroll threshold are subject to a Competitive Balance Tax -- which is commonly referred to as a "luxury tax." Those who carry payrolls above that threshold are taxed on each dollar above the threshold, with the tax rate increasing based on the number of consecutive years a club has exceeded the threshold.
A team's Competitive Balance Tax figure is determined using the average annual value of each player's contract on the 40-man roster, plus any additional player benefits. Every team's final CBT figure is calculated at the end of each season. (Note: If a player signs a contract extension that doesn't kick in until a later season, his AAV for the purposes of the CBT doesn't change until the new deal begins.)
The following thresholds were put in place per the 2022-26 collective bargaining agreement:
2022: $230 million
2023: $233 million
2024: $237 million
2025: $241 million
2026: $244 million
A club that exceeds the Competitive Balance Tax threshold is subject to an increasing tax rate depending on how many consecutive years it has done so.
First year: 20 percent tax on all overages
Second consecutive year: 30 percent
Third consecutive year or more: 50 percent
If a club dips below the luxury tax threshold for a season, the penalty level is reset. So, a club that exceeds the threshold for two straight seasons but then drops below that level would be back at 20 percent the next time it exceeds the threshold.
There’s also a surcharge threshold for clubs that exceed the base threshold by $20 million or more.
$20 million to $40 million: 12 percent surcharge
$40 million to $60 million: 42.5 percent surcharge for first year; 45 percent for each consecutive year after that
$60 million or more: 60 percent surcharge
Clubs that are $40 million or more above the threshold shall have their highest selection in the next Rule 4 Draft moved back 10 places unless the pick falls in the top six. In that case, the team will have its second-highest selection moved back 10 places instead.
If they go with Kiermaier, I would consider either of Conforto or Bellenger on a 1 year deal. as well.
Its a balance of committed to winning and money.If Verlander was "committed to winning" why would he be leaving the defending World Series champions ?
That takes up time, why bother?Verlander is going to rake in huge NIL deals.
Feel free to delete as well- with all respectDo me a favor Yes, my friend.
Can you delete ^^^^^^
Not comfortable with it.
It’s my issue, not yours.😊
check out my posts on Yankees- not a single troll- only responses to a moron called WB. I react to him but only have solid questions and convo with yankee fans. I have no idea why he thinks every post of mine is a troll- but it can be checked by anyone- I also post the same way on the Phillies thread and have never been called a troll.My apologies to the nice Mets fans on here. And there are many of you. But one of your brethren wants to have ridiculous conversations on the Yankees Thread. Yet he says he never posts on their. Also @yesrutgers01 just said he wasn't a troll but I'm sure he will back 2008 and prove he isn't a baseball fan but a troll. So it's not going to be fun on either thread. Thought their was a truce. Haven't been on this thread since the beginning but 2 Mets friends want to act like children.
Agree 2008 calls you out why you post on the Yankees thread but this past spring while I was in Europe you posted that I wasn't around because you would bitch slap me which is hysterical. So let's not pretend you aren't a Yankees fan hater.check out my posts on Yankees- not a single troll- only responses to a moron called WB. I react to him but only have solid questions and convo with yankee fans. I have no idea why he thinks every post of mine is a troll- but it can be checked by anyone- I also post the same way on the Phillies thread and have never been called a troll.
$72 million.Phils signed Taijuan Walker, 4 year deal. Waiting to hear money amounts
Edit: 71 million for 4 years
So, while I was waiting to have a drink with you and @Knight Shift - we were also talking bitch slapping.Agree 2008 calls you out why you post on the Yankees thread but this past spring while I was in Europe you posted that I wasn't around because you would bitch slap me which is hysterical. So let's not pretend you aren't a Yankees fan hater.
BTW you were responding to whitebus, the guy u called a moron. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I haven’t seen- what and where.Congrats Tijuan. Wish the Mets had kept you.
Clearly the Mets don't think he is worth that kind of money. Whether they are right or not remains to be seen.$72 million.
I knew we should have QO'd him.
it is really interesting- I thought Walker was a good starter and will most likely have a 10-15 year career- but...that is a really good contract for him.Clearly the Mets don't think he is worth that kind of money. Whether they are right or not remains to be seen.
From the Phillies standpoint - damn! That is an expensive fourth starter! They clearly ain't messing around.
And he'll be the 5th whenever Painter comes up!Clearly the Mets don't think he is worth that kind of money. Whether they are right or not remains to be seen.
From the Phillies standpoint - damn! That is an expensive fourth starter! They clearly ain't messing around.