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OT: New York Mets 2022-2023 Off Season Thread

I don't see Conforto signing with the Mets. He needs to rebuild his value on a one year deal. He can't do that as a part time player and DH, which is all the Mets can offer.

Brantley is the better fit IMO.
 
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This article has to scare the $hit out of baseball in general. Fork them, the Mets have operated on a Walmart budget far too long. It's been a long time coming but finally we're playing in the deep end of the pool.
Though, as much as we have spent…on 7 FA’s, we had to do it. We had almost our entire pitching staff leaving as well as Nimmo.
But, no one seems to mention how much other teams have spent as well with less that half that many FA’s.
We are not number 1 on total spend. Another team has us by about 100 mil
 
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I don't see Conforto signing with the Mets. He needs to rebuild his value on a one year deal. He can't do that as a part time player and DH, which is all the Mets can offer.

Brantley is the better fit IMO.
A healthy MC most likely displaces Canha in the outfield.
 
Though, as much as we have spent…on 7 FA’s, we had to do it. We had almost our entire pitching staff leaving as well as Nimmo.
But, no one seems to mention how much other teams have spent as well with less that half that many FA’s.
We are not number 1 on total spend. Another team has us by about 100 mil
Facts will never get you anywhere with the haters,lol.
 
That suggests to me that Mauricio remains in the Mets' plans. When he was playing shortshop (the premium position) exclusively, my read was that he was being showcased for trade purposes. We shall see.
If he were to prove out- Alonso, Mauricio, Lindor, McNeil would be a hell of an infield.
 
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Senga signing officially announced. Five years, $75MM. Full no-trade. Player opt-out after three years. Presser scheduled Monday 11:00 AM. Verlander presser Tuesday 10:00 AM.

What I don't know is how the payments are staggered over the five years. If heavily front-loaded, Senga would clearly be incented to exercise the opt-out. Regardless of the actual payment schedule, for Luxury Tax purposes the payments are straight-lined, $15MM per year over the next five.
Some more detail on the Senga contract. He gets a $5MM signing bonus, and then $14MM per year over the life of the five year contract. His opt-out after three years only kicks in if he pitches 400 innings in those three years. He should have no problem reaching that threshold, unless he is injured or demoted to the bullpen.
 
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For what is an average minor league system, the Mets are getting a nice group of home grown players on the major league roster if Alverez,Mauricio and Baty pan out. I've seen all 3 play when they came into Lakewood several times. Mauricio isn't a SS in my opinion even if Lindor wasn't blocking him. He is a very talented ballplayer without a set position. He hits with explosive power,has great speed and a powerful throwing arm. His major league position will end up in a corner outfield position. No way they should include him in a trade,no way. I think of the 3,he's a full year away, the other 2 maybe after May. Imagine if they all stick? That could have a starting lineup of 6 home grown out of 8 position players, not likely, but you never know. 3B, 2B, 1B, CF, LF & C.
 
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Andy Martino says the Mets are looking to move both McCann and Carrasco. It will cost them to move McCann. I would hope Carrasco would bring a better prospect than it will cost to dump McCann otherwise I would just hold both for now.
 
Andy Martino says the Mets are looking to move both McCann and Carrasco. It will cost them to move McCann. I would hope Carrasco would bring a better prospect than it will cost to dump McCann otherwise I would just hold both for now.
Watch for the Rays here. Rumors of discussions. But return will be nothing significant. Possible Mets eat some of McCann’s salary. But trading these two might get the Mets under a tax level saving even more money.
 
Watch for the Rays here. Rumors of discussions. But return will be nothing significant. Possible Mets eat some of McCann’s salary. But trading these two might get the Mets under a tax level saving even more money.
I don’t like moving Carasco unless we do get something significant or not have to eat any of McCan’s salary.
The reason is the lack of good starting pitching that was available this year. And I really don’t want to have to rely on either McGill or Peterson as our 5 and backup.
Just one major injury to our starters and all of a sudden, we have to start looking for a starter who most likely isn’t as good as Cookie and we have to pay out the nose.
 
I don’t like moving Carasco unless we do get something significant or not have to eat any of McCan’s salary.
The reason is the lack of good starting pitching that was available this year. And I really don’t want to have to rely on either McGill or Peterson as our 5 and backup.
Just one major injury to our starters and all of a sudden, we have to start looking for a starter who most likely isn’t as good as Cookie and we have to pay out the nose.
Agree 100%. What's the old saying about you never have enough pitching.
 
Yup I would keep Carrasco around. Keep as much depth as possible in the rotation.

McCann just get him out of here. They'll probably have to eat most of the contract but whatever. Addition by subtraction there. What an awful sign that was.
 
Easy for us to say Mets should keep Carrasco. It's not our money. Including the luxury tax hit, Carrasco will cost the Mets $26.6MM. He ain't worth that much.

Maybe Cohen truly doesn't care. If so, we raise our glasses to him. The other 29 owners would certainly care.
 
Easy for us to say Mets should keep Carrasco. It's not our money. Including the luxury tax hit, Carrasco will cost the Mets $26.6MM. He ain't worth that much.

Maybe Cohen truly doesn't care. If so, we raise our glasses to him. The other 29 owners would certainly care.
He ain't worth much? He was 1 of 14 pitchers to win at least 15 games last year.
 
He ain't worth much? He was 1 of 14 pitchers to win at least 15 games last year.
First of all, the WINS stat means little in today's era of the five/six inning starter.

Secondly, I said he ain't worth THAT much ($26.6MM). And he ain't.
 
First of all, the WINS stat means little in today's era of the five/six inning starter.

Secondly, I said he ain't worth THAT much ($26.6MM). And he ain't.
double anyone on the team then. Is Nimmo worth 40 mil per? Marte 35 mil? You can't play that game. Carasco is pretty much worth the 14 mil. And if we need an arm later, what will we have to trade to get one. If we want to move Cookie- then do it on his own and get something for him.
 
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Easy for us to say Mets should keep Carrasco. It's not our money. Including the luxury tax hit, Carrasco will cost the Mets $26.6MM. He ain't worth that much.

Maybe Cohen truly doesn't care. If so, we raise our glasses to him. The other 29 owners would certainly care.
Cohen offered $300 million to Correa. I don't think he cares about the money. It's a bad baseball move to get rid of Carrasco.
 
double anyone on the team then. Is Nimmo worth 40 mil per? Marte 35 mil? You can't play that game. Carasco is pretty much worth the 14 mil. And if we need an arm later, what will we have to trade to get one. If we want to move Cookie- then do it on his own and get something for him.
Marte is a sunk cost, so the question is irrelevant.

Fair question for Nimmo. Steve et al decided it was worth taking the big luxury tax hit for the best available CF at a position of need. Doesn't mean the same decision has to be made for a league-average fifth starter.

Please don't misunderstand my position. If Steve doesn't care how much luxury tax he pays, great. But if he does feel the need to cut back, I totally get it. And moving Carrasco is the most realistic way to do that.
 
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Marte is a sunk cost, so the question is irrelevant.

Fair question for Nimmo. Steve et al decided it was worth taking the big luxury tax hit for the best available CF at a position of need. Doesn't mean the same decision has to be made for a league-average fifth starter.

Please don't misunderstand my position. If Steve doesn't care how much luxury tax he pays, great. But if he does feel the need to cut back, I totally get it. And moving Carrasco is the most realistic way to do that.
In all seriousness- do you really see cookie as a league average 5th starter?
 
In all seriousness- do you really see cookie as a league average 5th starter?
he's probably a league average 3rd to 4th starter based on his stat breakdown last year (Baseball reference has him ranked #76 of 124 starters that qualify and #98 of 368 all-inclusive). That made him our lowest ranked starter, but still average to above average overall, so as a 5th starter he's upper tier.
 
Justin Turner to Red Sox. Two years, $22MM, with opt out after one.
Here's a good Met trivia question about Justin Turner.

Justin Turner got his first Met hit in 2010, as a pinch-hitter. For whom was he pinch-hitting?

I promise you that the answer is relevant. If it were not, it wouldn't be a good trivia question, and it is!
 
Here's a good Met trivia question about Justin Turner.

Justin Turner got his first Met hit in 2010, as a pinch-hitter. For whom was he pinch-hitting?

I promise you that the answer is relevant. If it were not, it wouldn't be a good trivia question, and it is!
Had to look it up. Can't see how anyone would get this without cheating!
 
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