OT: New York Mets 2024-2025 Off Season Thread
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With Pete- He is not as good as Harper- and the Phillies now have the deal of the century with him at 27.5 So Pete isn't going to get that even though it is a dated contract but he was an OF at the time
He is currently paid 20.5 - so, he will get more than that.
He most likely gets 24- 25 per year somewhere. He may actually get his highest number here as we already know his value outside the numbers.
It is the number of years...
He is currently paid 20.5 - so, he will get more than that.
He most likely gets 24- 25 per year somewhere. He may actually get his highest number here as we already know his value outside the numbers.
It is the number of years...
Sorry, stats don't lie. Davis and Big Pete have very similar stats prior to CD's big collapse. He probably needs to take a 1-year prove it deal.
David Stearns says Mets have 'enormous opportunity' in free agency with lots of money coming off books
The Mets' willingness to spend at the top of the free agent market will be buoyed further by the fact that they have a ton of money coming off their books.
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Chris took 5 years before ever hitting 30 HR. He had a good 4 year run and then dropped off.
Pete has already had Davis's career numbers in just 5 full years. When Pete is at 13 years- he has 200+ more HR and 500 more rbi than Davis
Maybe, maybe not. We shall see. Seems like the cliff for Pete is coming sooner rather than later.
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As to why I think Pete is gone - I just don't think that Stearns has any emotional connection to him. I think Stearns views Alonso as one of many fish in the sea. Admittedly he is a big fish, but there are bigger ones, such as your proposed RF.
Is it possible that Alonso returns? Sure. But if you're asking me whether Alonso will re-up with the Mets, or will he sign with one of about six other suitors, I will put my money on the field.
IF Vientos does wind up at 1st, I think Baty and Mauricio will both get a shot at the job. Especially if they spend their money elsewhere as you suggest.
As to why I think Pete is gone - I just don't think that Stearns has any emotional connection to him. I think Stearns views Alonso as one of many fish in the sea. Admittedly he is a big fish, but there are bigger ones, such as your proposed RF.
Is it possible that Alonso returns? Sure. But if you're asking me whether Alonso will re-up with the Mets, or will he sign with one of about six other suitors, I will put my money on the field.
When I said that Alonso gives Chris Davis vibes, I meant that in terms of a drop off in production not comparing careers.
Get burnes. Pay the man
Kick the tires with soto.
Say goodbye to Pete just because as much as he is a great met someone will overpay. Offer him a little above the what you think he’s worth ….maybe he stays but probably not
Bullpen help …that’s always a crapshoot
I would sign severino. I think he’s at the point of his career he will eat innings
Kick the tires with soto.
Say goodbye to Pete just because as much as he is a great met someone will overpay. Offer him a little above the what you think he’s worth ….maybe he stays but probably not
Bullpen help …that’s always a crapshoot
I would sign severino. I think he’s at the point of his career he will eat innings
I am ok with that- it is the troll that I have to remind myself not to respond to. lol
Pete is most likely a .250 is hitter with 40-50 HR power. Some years in the 30's- but when you consider his worst production ever is 34/88 and then a post season where he would be at a 50 HR 120 RBI pace...against the best of the best
Agree- offer Pete a real number. Agree- kick tires with Soto- the weird thing is- let's say Soto signs with us-it may make Pete more valuable...
You don't sign Pete and you don't get a Soto -What is there? Vientos may give you Pete light numbers at the plate- And I think he may be a mult time all-star
Are we trusting Baty at 3rd?
It’s cohen …he’s got money .
I would overpay for Pete …but not by much. And I think someone overpays more
Vientos , Mauricio, Baty …all come a lot cheaper than Pete….if dude wants to really be here make him a good offer . And if he leaves hope it’s not a another Daniel Murphy
The first five days after the WS ends will be instructive. Mets will have exclusive negotiating rights to Alonso in that five day window. After that, the bazaar is open.
In 2022, during this window, Cohen contacted Diaz and his agent and said let's get this done - now. And they did.
Will Cohen place a similar call to Alonso? My guess is no. Although I think he would if Stearns nudged him in that direction. But I don't see that happening.
We'll know soon enough.
Sign Pete for 5 years at a 25-27 a year deal. This may sound crazy since Soto is only 26, but I don't want to pay him what he's looking for. Get in on the bidding to drive the price and years up to choke off the Yankees from going after similar players the Mets are interested in.
Well it seems that David Stearns has already answered my question! Here it is:
“He’s a great Met,” Stearns said. “I hope we have him back. I think we both understand this is a process and everyone’s got their own interests. And Pete deserves to go out into the free agent market and see what’s out there and ultimately make the best choice for him and his family.”
Translation: "Pete, I really like you, but I think maybe we should see other people. Y'know, just for a while."
If you really want to marry the girl, that is NOT how you go about it.
Could Alonso still re-sign? Sure. The Mets took the same approach with Nimmo. They let him define the parameters of the market, then swooped in with their offer.
But clearly Alonso is not on top of the Mets list. If he were, Stearns and Cohen would be doing all they could to make sure that Alonso does NOT see what's out there.
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Boras is Pete’s agent. There’s no way that Boras will have waited all this time to get his client to free agency and then sign days before he hits the open market.
After last year, I wonder if the shine is off Boris.
I guess we just see this differently. I’m not sure what do “all that they could” to stop a player from entering free agency means. That strategy could often lead to overpaying. Rather, I think they’ll do much like Stearns suggested: learn what the market says and then decide whether to pay it or beat it. More than any other team, the Mets have the resources to do this if they think that an agent may be overvaluing a player (something that Boras has done with other players recently) or simply want to see the market value before acting.
IF Vientos does wind up at 1st, I think Baty and Mauricio will both get a shot at the job. Especially if they spend their money elsewhere as you suggest.
As to why I think Pete is gone - I just don't think that Stearns has any emotional connection to him. I think Stearns views Alonso as one of many fish in the sea. Admittedly he is a big fish, but there are bigger ones, such as your proposed RF.
Is it possible that Alonso returns? Sure. But if you're asking me whether Alonso will re-up with the Mets, or will he sign with one of about six other suitors, I will put my money on the field.
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I agree that Stearns doesn't have any emotional connection to Pete, but he's no fool. Unless the Mets can replace his production in the line up, I don't see them throwing Pete away that easily. If the Mets fail to land Soto, then Pete becomes very valuable. And I think Cohen will have a say in the matter just like he did with Lindor. As far as the rest of the roster, that's all Stearns decision.
As to why I think Pete is gone - I just don't think that Stearns has any emotional connection to him. I think Stearns views Alonso as one of many fish in the sea. Admittedly he is a big fish, but there are bigger ones, such as your proposed RF.
Is it possible that Alonso returns? Sure. But if you're asking me whether Alonso will re-up with the Mets, or will he sign with one of about six other suitors, I will put my money on the field.
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I agree that Stearns doesn't have any emotional connection to Pete, but he's no fool. Unless the Mets can replace his production in the line up, I don't see them throwing Pete away that easily. If the Mets fail to land Soto, then Pete becomes very valuable. And I think Cohen will have a say in the matter just like he did with Lindor. As far as the rest of the roster, that's all Stearns decision.
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Baty had his chance to show he belong. He fail twice. And yes, Mauricio has to recover from his injury, but in the short time he was given a chance, he put on a display showing he should be given a chance to earn 3B. Mauricio deserves a chance now that Baty had blown it twice.
Just remember that with some young players it doesn't show up right away. For us Vientos is a prime example.
about this time last year- Vientos was a lost cause. lol And now, he looks like a guy that is going to have a wonderful career. I would love to see Baty do the same thing. Acuna impressed me more up in the bigs then I was expecting. And just not sure what will become of Mauricio.
If all 4 of these guys and Alvarez can prove themselves- we are in very good shape
"The entirety of the player universe is potentially accessible to us. That's a tremendous opportunity." - David Stearns
Difference was Vientos always showed energy, some aggressiveness. Baty is just too passive.
I agree on Baty, I never liked his demeanor. He seemed more interested in how his uniform looked than in getting dirty. But I could be wrong about all that, and sometimes young players finally find their way.
Setting aside that your evaluation completely throws away a much bigger sample size in the minors for both players where Baty did better, even the 100 at bats for Mauricio in the big leagues produced a measly .643 OPS and only 2 HRs in 108 plate appearances. And you're batting him clean up for the Mets on opening day.
Now, I think Mauricio may have some talent and could ultimately develop, but he ain't batting cleanup on opening day, and he's certainly not playing third where he has almost no experience.
I am hoping that Acuna, Alvarez and Vientos can become high level starters and Baty/Mauricio become serviceable players. In that scenario, given Stearns ability to be the POBO and Cohen's deep pockets, this team could become a juggernaut.
Mets prospect Drew Gilbert hits two home runs in Arizona Fall League
Mets prospect Drew Gilbert had his best game in this year's Arizona Fall League on Wednesday, smashing two home runs in a three-hit day.
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24 years old , came into game 3-28
Batted 215 in 56 triple a games
Hope he proves me wrong
24 is only young in the Mets minor leagues
Hopefully the new Cohen-Stearns regime has a different view on age then the previous
Batted 215 in 56 triple a games
Hope he proves me wrong
24 is only young in the Mets minor leagues
Hopefully the new Cohen-Stearns regime has a different view on age then the previous
Is there a bigger more obnoxious player than Soto? After his HR, hardly anywhere near as dramatic as Lindor's, trotting around the bases head down or Pete's, simple giving a kiss toward the fans busting his balls after a fielding miscue. As a Mets fan, I want no part of this gun for hire douche bag who's horrible and lazy in the field. After getting out from under those contracts of Max & Justin, I don't want to see the Mets throw big money at that hot dog.
Yeah, hoping the Mets push the Soto price up to billions, and spend the money on top pitching, Pete, etc.
The baseball love fest is
1)Ohtani
1b) Soto
How the F is Soto up for a gold glove? I’m surprised they didn’t create a GG for DH too lol
What is strange- I don’t remember Freddie Freeman being such a showboat himself. And been seeing him do a lot of dancing on that bad ankle
The Lindor trot was pure class
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