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Devils GM can’t wait much longer to address team’s glaring weakness
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The problems are goaltending, goaltending and goaltending. And did we mention goaltending?
This is why you can't wait forever to make trades, especially when there is a legal cloud over you and a team is willing to trade. There are those in Canada that think these 5 will NEVER be allowed to play in the NHL again.
It's official this year goes from bad to worse. So much for Fitz's getting and keeping good people, if we have been cheering for rapists!
SAD @ DISGUSTING!!!
It's official this year goes from bad to worse. So much for Fitz's getting and keeping good people, if we have been cheering for rapists!
SAD @ DISGUSTING!!!
Good lord man, no one would have made a trade for McLoed without some sort of assurances or undo clause. GMs aren't that stupid.
Maybe, but you would get something, as stranger thing's have happened. Remember teams were asking about him.
Innocent until proven guilty, but it doesn't look good.
The Flyers are now catching a lot of heat for dangling Carter Hart out there last season, given the suspicions surrounding him. If I'm the GM who accepted that trade, I'm losing my mind today. Hard to believe Fitz had no idea this was coming someday. Bastian was signed for 2 years and McLeod was signed for 1 on the exact same day last summer. If McLeod and Foote were involved, not playing in the NHL again might be the least of their issues.
My guess is you would have gotten draft picks that would immediately revert in the case of an 'event' like today.
He traded for lazar and resigned Haula , signed tierney and nosek since last years trade deadline . That’s a good amount of bottom 6 centers
Could be. I just wish the Devils waived these players so us fans wouldn't have unknowingly cheered for them.
It's time to get a few defenseman and a goalie. If that doesn't work time to get a new coach.
Agree 100% with above, but forget Ruff. Tom Fitzgerald will NOT fire him. If Lindy had a fan club, Fitz would be the president!
Both now have extensions, they are entrenched. Blitzer and Harris have a track record, and it is not about winning. They would rather get good press, see the LGBT Jersey auction during the Christmas season, and acquire new teams than have any of them win championships.
So here we are, close to the cap, needing a NHL winning goalie, 1 or 2 defensive defensemen, and as Jersey Joe wrote for P@P, some legitimate beef for playoff hockey.
Both now have extensions, they are entrenched. Blitzer and Harris have a track record, and it is not about winning. They would rather get good press, see the LGBT Jersey auction during the Christmas season, and acquire new teams than have any of them win championships.
So here we are, close to the cap, needing a NHL winning goalie, 1 or 2 defensive defensemen, and as Jersey Joe wrote for P@P, some legitimate beef for playoff hockey.
Capfriendly allowed me to move Hamilton to LTIR and trade Miller and Holtz for Hanafin and Markstrom....
not that we want to trade Miller right now
not that we want to trade Miller right now
Yup - Fitz gave Ruff a vote of confidence yesterday. He's not going anywhere this year.
Markstrom is the goalie I'd want. Hanafin I could take or leave. I understand having to give to get, but moving Holtz scares me. Though Ruff would be happy as a clam.
At the press conference yesterday it was hinted that Hamilton has not yet been put on LTIR. I thought he was, but now I'm unsure. No reason to hold off, from the reports.
Even if he is, there is no guarantees the NHL will not penalize the Devils for what they have let Vegas and Tampa do to win Stanley Cup's. Just like Kovy, who we are still being penalized for, as of this year.
I have concerns long-term about the Cap. With so many young good players, I could see us losing somebody like Mercer to an offer sheet. We haven't moved on a trade because of our cap situation. We are less than 600K under the Cap. So I have concerns about our ability to fix our problems.
It is the rules...it appears...moving Hamilton to LTIR opens up a ton of $. The only question is how aggressive do the Devils go trading their future to win today. I don't see trading Nemec or Luke Hughes, but I think Mercer and Holtz are guys that would have to go if the value is there.
It was fine for everyone else to sign their own player, except the Devils. I will never trust them after that. So yes I could see the Devils being penalized for using that space.
I'm not saying mortgage the future, I'm saying, put your best foot forward as soon, and for as long a period of duration as you can.
I wish I could keep all the young studs, but between the Cap and our needs, strategic steps must be taken.
No Hughes, Hischier, or Nemec should be traded. I hope we can keep Bahl and Mercer. If we trade Holtz it must be for a goalie capable of win the Cup, or a top defenseman. Holtz as part of a package.
A Holtz or Mercer can be found as a FA...the salary differential might be a little more.
For the next 3+ months Toffoli is as valuable or more valuable than Mercer or Holtz.
For the next 3+ months Toffoli is as valuable or more valuable than Mercer or Holtz.
Dougie was eligible for LTIR after missing 10 games and 24 calendar days . In presser fitzy said he has another appointment in 2 weeks which will show his progress if I recall. But LTIR is tricky bc they can replace his salary but if he returns before playoffs they would have to be cap compliant . Trade deadline is March 8th so the dougie checkup in a few weeks will prob decide whether they use LTIR or not
But what happens next year whem Hamiltons deal comes back on?
I think we will have too. Reading the tea leaves, it might be more advantageous for the Devils to be sellers this year. Stand pat, play the kids, and use teams like Chicago, San Jose, and Anaheim to get in a better long-term cap situation. As it stands now this team needs, goaltending, legitimate top pair 1 preferably 2 defensemen, and Center, the 3 most expensive positions to get. If all else fails, it wouldn't suck to get another high draft pick.
Boom 100%, Fitz let this team get too close to the Cap, while still having key spots to fix.
What a sad juxtaposition between Fitz's extension presser, and the news the Devils signed 2 of the 5 this past off season. He should have known enough to let McLeod walk and not sign Foote. If only on General Principal. I wish he had resigned Boquist, and had enough cap space to trade for Zadorov earlier this year.
Don't trust the NHL, the Devils still have 250K of dead cap space as penalty for signing Kovy. This is after they let Detroit and other's do the same thing, resign your own player.
This may finally be our last year. Not one other team that did this, or anything similar, got penalized!
This may finally be our last year. Not one other team that did this, or anything similar, got penalized!
Absolutely NOT. Hughes and Palat have been out. The forwards are very good if we get healthy.
Make the playoffs and I really like our chances.
While the Cap will increase, it will not increase by like 20 million.
Toffoli gone, it would be nice to trade him at the deadline. However Mercer needs a deal, while others like Luke Hughes will need new deals soon after.
Vanacek makes about 2 million or more less than most starting goalies. Columbus Merzlinkens even makes over 5 million a year.
Adding everything up and it's tough. It might be best for a player like Mercer to get an offer sheet, even though I'd like to keep him. The Devils need to trim the fat from the Cap IMO.
Toffoli gone, it would be nice to trade him at the deadline. However Mercer needs a deal, while others like Luke Hughes will need new deals soon after.
Vanacek makes about 2 million or more less than most starting goalies. Columbus Merzlinkens even makes over 5 million a year.
Adding everything up and it's tough. It might be best for a player like Mercer to get an offer sheet, even though I'd like to keep him. The Devils need to trim the fat from the Cap IMO.
I agree, however I would look to stand pat and see if this team can make it. I would much rather trade a Palat or Toffoli type to say Chicago, than mortgage the future on a pipedream. Although Palat might go to a young playoff team.
Between the injuries and yesterday, I don't see this as our year no matter what we do.
Countless examples in professional sports of talented teams going through issues and eventually things gets sorted out and they win.
We sre right there in the playoff race and we have talent (and ugly warts)
Dowling and Misyul called up for added forward and defensive depth. Miller and Palat jump right into Foote and McLeod's spots. Daws to start tonight.
This morning's line rushes:
Meier - Hischier - Bratt
Toffoli - Mercer - Palat
Lazar - Haula - Bastian
Willman/Dowling - Tierney - Holtz
Bahl - Nemec
Hughes - Marino
Hatakka - Miller
Misyul
Daws
Vanecek
This morning's line rushes:
Meier - Hischier - Bratt
Toffoli - Mercer - Palat
Lazar - Haula - Bastian
Willman/Dowling - Tierney - Holtz
Bahl - Nemec
Hughes - Marino
Hatakka - Miller
Misyul
Daws
Vanecek
This morning's line rushes: FICTION
Meier - Hischier - Bratt
Palat - Hughes - Toffoli
Haula - Lindholm - Bastian
Nosek- Tierney - Lazar
Hanafin - Tanev
Bahl - Nemec
Hughes - Marino
Markstrom
Daws
Meier - Hischier - Bratt
Palat - Hughes - Toffoli
Haula - Lindholm - Bastian
Nosek- Tierney - Lazar
Hanafin - Tanev
Bahl - Nemec
Hughes - Marino
Markstrom
Daws
Again they have 20 million in cap space next year with like 7 spots to fill . I don’t know where you are getting this they have to trim fat off the cap. There’s plenty of room to sign Mercer , depth pieces plus add another piece .
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LTIR would only affect this year . If they decide to put dougie on LTIR they can spend 9 million over the cap this season. His contract is on the books next season no matter what .
Is there any team that would want Hamilton? I'd think if we were sellers at the deadline a deal would include Hamilton so we can get rid of his contract
There’s zero reason the devils have to “win today”..they aren’t like other teams in a win now mide.
Devils are set up great for the future, and I don’t really want Fitz to ruin that. In years 3 and 4..if this is still where we are….then sure, let’s blow some of it up, but dumb to do this early
so you wouldn't trade Mercer and Holtz for a forward, 2 defenseman and a goalie. You would wait for the offseason to acquire a goalie and a few D.
I respect that opinion...I just don't know if I would give up this year PLUS are Mercer's future salaries going to come at that much of a discount that you can replace them with?
Nemec and Hughes are young and cheap.
Bratt and Hughes are stars that quite frankly are in limited supply.
Can't everything else be acquired via free agency?
I do think we are about to see inflation with the salary cap going up. FAs are going to get more though.
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