On April 30, 2021, Leipold was hired at Kansas. He is on his fourth recruiting class. Never said is a bad coach, but is success at lower levels is not translating to the P5 so far.
OT: No Bowl Leipold Has Gone Cold
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Maybe it's a one ( big) step backwards before moving forward again.
Lance has had success at the lower level and was great at Wisconsin–Whitewater (109-6)
His time at Buffalo made some feel he was great because he made a fairly bad Bull team into a winner
( but it wasn't terrible having went 8-5 two years before Lance was hired)
I feel Leipold is a better HC than this year's Jayhawk team makes look to be, but he's not the world beater that many thought he was when he was hired .
So.. you're saying.. Less Miles last class.. with Covid years are super Seniors and RS Seniors? For all we know.. the core of LL's winning Kansas teams were chock full of Les miles recruits while LL's recruits played supporting roles.
Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't. Kansas at least seems to be competitive. There are a lot of schools where there isn't much margin for error. Kansas is one of them. So is Rutgers.
All 6 of their losses are by 1 score. Odds are you’d get a couple of those but nope it hasn’t fallen their way this year. Key mistakes still being made too, Daniels had a fumble at midfield leading to KSU’s game winning FG. This year is down the drain so next year we’ll see as every year is different. Daniels might be addition by subtraction as he’s not the same this year and maybe they change OC again.
Just look at Deion. He’s got Colorado bowl eligible in year 2. 6-2/4-1 and in B12 title contention but I’ll be surprised if they win it. Improved over last year but still some flaws. B12 is a wide open conference. BYU was picked for near last and they’re at the top and vice versa Ok St and Utah. So there’s opportunity for Kansas and Leipold to turn things and we’ll see.
Just look at Deion. He’s got Colorado bowl eligible in year 2. 6-2/4-1 and in B12 title contention but I’ll be surprised if they win it. Improved over last year but still some flaws. B12 is a wide open conference. BYU was picked for near last and they’re at the top and vice versa Ok St and Utah. So there’s opportunity for Kansas and Leipold to turn things and we’ll see.
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Iowa State, now BYU. If Kanas finds a way to beat Colorado next Saturday, we can all finally agree that Lance Leipold can coach. We are lucky that Nebraska and Michigan and Michigan State did not hire him.
Wow, knocks off 9-0 #6 BYU in Provo at night. Kansas now 4-6 with 6 games lost by 1 score, could easily be talking about playoffs with them but for some bounces the other way.
He’s an excellent coach.
Any one who can win at Buffalo and Kansas can coach.
Any one who can win at Buffalo and Kansas can coach.
The B12 isn’t that good this year - including the top. Look at their top 4. Their signature non-conference win was a 20-19 win over Iowa. Colorado lost to Nebraska. By a lot more than we did. Our road win at VTech is probably as good as any B12 non-conference win - for perspective. Being 4-6 in that conference is not impressive.
Not necessarily you, but a segment of people on this board have a strange fetish in propping up questionable performances by other coaches and ready to deep six the coach of their own team during a skid. The song called Love the One You're With comes to mind.
Record this year is 4-6 and 3-4 in a questionable conference having a weird year where Oklahoma State is at the bottom of the conference. BYU's ranking was way too inflated when their only decent wins were K-State and SMU.
Beating Iowa State is not that big of a deal. They lost to a mediocre Texas Tech.
Just don't get the fascination with this guy.
He has had one winning season in 4 seasons at Kansas. Pump the brakes.
BYU has the record but anyone who has watched them more than once knows they are terribly overrated.
I am citing Leipold as a good coach — he’s done a good to great job at all his stops on the career ladder. I have not taken shots at Coach Schiano.
No brake pumping.
Kansas was one of the worst if not the worst team in college football.
A team that produced Gale Sayers and John Riggins. Enigma if there ever was one.
He’s a great coach.
I’m not taking shots at Schiano either.
One who campaigned strongly on this board for his return. With all the injuries this might be his best coaching job ever. Great coach. Perfect for RU!
Yes, I acknowledged that. Greg is a good coach too. He coaches in a much stronger league with much stronger competition. Leipold coaching in the B12 is an apples and oranges comparison.
And if you took this record and assigned it to Greg, people would be screaming for Greg to be fired:
21–27 (0.439) Overall
12–22 (0.352) Conference
Actually, Greg is:
25-52 (0.439) Overall
12-31 (0.280) Conference
Taking into consideration he played the year end ranked (not mid or early Season) #2, #3, #6, #9, #3, #4, #7, #1 and #10 teams over the stretch of 4 years, while Leipold only faced #10, #7, #5, #2, #7, #5, #10 over 3 years and never notched a win, one could make the case that they are equally good coaches. But not some of our fans (and I am again excluding you).
Add that Leipold inherited Les Miles recruits and program while GS inherited Ash's recruits and program.
Has nothing to do with what’s going on at Kansas. And we are not comparing Leipold with Schiano. Just that Leipold is a good coach.
Why? He's 5-6. Beating three middling, poorly ranked Big 12 teams is a major accomplishment around here?
Who said anything about a major accomplishment?
I wouldn’t call a coach/team that just beat three ranked teams in back to back to back games “cold”.
I think it is an accomplishment. No unranked team has ever beaten 3 ranked teams (still currently ranked) in row and it's the 2nd to last week of the regular season so it's not as if it's like some early season over ranking like FSU or something. So we'll see how many of them are able to stay in the rankings after next week. He salvaged a season that could have been ugly with all 1 score losses and 4th qtr meltdowns and might turn it into something respectable if he can pull of one more win.
He'll be facing the other hot team in the B12 that's rattled off 4-5 in a row for a chance at a bowl. Aranda is 7-4 now after a horrible start too.
when the thread was started, he had lost 3 in a row, and lost 2 more. The thread at the time aged just fine.
but a certain type here was comparing them.. just like this year's flavor, Cignetti, is being compared
Blowout loss to Baylor today. 5-7 this season, no bowl. Four seasons, 3 losing seasons. Record of 22-28/ 13-24. A helluva coach!
1 game short of bowl eligibility. Not a great season for Leipold and Kansas. They beat 3 ranked teams (BYU, Iowa State, Kansas), lost to Illinois on a late score, lost to a good Kansas State team by 2, lost by 4 to a good Arizona State.
After this week’s results, it will be interesting to see the ratings of Kansas.
After this week’s results, it will be interesting to see the ratings of Kansas.
Still like him, doesn't change anything for me. Need a lot bigger and sustained drop to change my opinion. 2 bowl seasons out of 4, a top 25 ranking to end a year and a 9 win season. I've stated here how putrid Kansas was the decade before he arrived. It's as bad a situation as you'll find and not an exaggeration to say that.
This year started out horrible but was largely competitive. New OC and TO issues got them in the beginning of the year but salvaged it enough to make the last game meaningful. Only unranked team to beat 3 ranked teams in a row and all those teams will be ranked at the end of the regular season. It wasn't some over ranked early in the season thing like FSU or something. Down year but not as bad as it looked.
Next year will be an uphill for him. This should've been the year to compete for the B12. I think they lose Neal at RB and Daniels as well. Wondering if Grimes will be back after a shaky year 1 at OC. So quite a bit of change likely coming that he'll have to deal with and we'll see what he does.
Side note: Aranda also started the year out badly but nice recovery capped by the win yesterday. Started out 2-4 but ends the season 8-4/6-3.
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With talk like that, I may have to take my couch and go elsewhere! I hear ya on your points, but next year will be telling. Considering their history, he may be Kansas' Greg Schiano and have a very long leash. This thread was started to quell the flavor of the week it year crowd growing over flash in the pan success stories.
One year up or down isn't a trend. The total body of work and context matter too. What 1 year blips up are good for though are to see that anything is possible in a given year no mater who you are. The more we see that the more hopeful a fan of any school should be coming into a year and we're seeing it more and more lately which is a good thing. Many complains about NIL and portal but I'm seeing more parity than ever across CFB and that's great. It'll never be perfect but opportunity is a good as ever.
I think at least 3 preseason unranked teams will make the CFP.
If it matters, through games played through 30 November 2024, Sagarin has Kansas at #32, Rutgers at #50.
