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OT: Cold and Potentially Snowy Pattern Likely for Most of January

I do too, but I also like a break from it. Makes where you're going so much sweeter.
lol, I'm dreading going to Vero Beach on 1/29 from a weather perspective, as I hate missing snowstorms back home when I'm there; we usually go twice a year to visit my dad, once in the winter and once in the summer.
 
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lol, I'm dreading going to Vero Beach on 1/29 from a weather perspective, as I hate missing snowstorms back home when I'm there; we usually go twice a year to visit my dad, once in the winter and once in the summer.
I've mostly stopped traveling in winter unless I'm headed somewhere with good snow and mountains.

I used to travel a bunch for work and seemed I'd miss a big storm or two every winter, sometimes the best storm of the entire year. Had to put a stop to that.
 
lol, I'm dreading going to Vero Beach on 1/29 from a weather perspective, as I hate missing snowstorms back home when I'm there; we usually go twice a year to visit my dad, once in the winter and once in the summer.
What snowstorms?
 
Could we looking at a not-so-nice icing situation on the roads as the temps fall on Sunday into Monday, even with a minimal amount of precipitation?
 
People crapping on the ICON are basing that on old information. It now has higher resolution than even the Euro and did quite well with both Beryl and Ian (tropical) and seems middle of the road for snow in our area. Did quite well for 1/6, when most models had shifted way south showing no snow for CNJ, but it still had an inch or two, but it didn't do great for 1/11. Many pros in Europe, who have more experience with it (it's a German model) seem to like it a lot. None of the models is perfect and they all have their biases, which is why I tend to like the NBM (the model blend) as it might not be as accurate as certain individual models, but will rarely be way off like some models can be.
icon has never been good or reliable in winter other than a joke for the weenies

Newsflash we arent in Europe and the Euro already bosses

Put in the ICON in the bin along with The JMA
 
Could we looking at a not-so-nice icing situation on the roads as the temps fall on Sunday into Monday, even with a minimal amount of precipitation?
Not sure if you mean ice from freezing rain (unlikely - maybe just a little - more of a rain or snow question for some) or slushy snow freezing up on untreated surfaces as temps drop (could be an issue, especially if we get a few inches with temps likely above 32F to start in the afternoon and then dropping with precip possibly changing from rain to snow). The latter scenario seems more likely to me.
 
Not sure why you even mention a model like the Icon
How about Cindy-an iconic model?
cindy crawford pepsi GIF by NOWNESS
 
Not sure if you mean ice from freezing rain (unlikely - maybe just a little - more of a rain or snow question for some) or slushy snow freezing up on untreated surfaces as temps drop (could be an issue, especially if we get a few inches with temps likely above 32F to start in the afternoon and then dropping with precip possibly changing from rain to snow). The latter scenario seems more likely to me.
The later … whatever falls freezing up as the night goes on. Seems like temps might really drop?
 
The later … whatever falls freezing up as the night goes on. Seems like temps might really drop?
Yes, no matter how much snow/rain/whatever we get on Sunday, by late Sunday the bottom falls out with temps dropping into the teens by Monday morning, so anything that's on the ground will freeze solid if it's slushy (we might get a drier snow which wouldn't freeze solid, except maybe on some roads where salt mixes in to partially melt it and then it freezes) and it's unlikely to get back to 32F until at least next Friday or Saturday - and we'll likely see single digits Tues/Weds mornings.
 
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icon has never been good or reliable in winter other than a joke for the weenies

Newsflash we arent in Europe and the Euro already bosses

Put in the ICON in the bin along with The JMA
The ICON, historically, hasn't been as accurate as the Euro, but neither have the other models, but it's not as bad as you're saying probably based on what a few on AmericanWx have said. It has, however, been fairly inconsistent with this storm, but personally I wouldn't ignore it.
 
Buccanneeers beat eagles in nfc championship game in last game at the VET
I was at that game. It was 8 degrees overnight. Under 30 during the game. Got a free ticket from a friends group. Left at 1/2 along with many of that group. VET was a dump and a terrible football venue. Like Yankees Stadium the worst seat were at the 50 yard line!
Funny that Tampa's only two NFC Championships were on the road in cold cities. Green Bay and Philly. Also Tampa is 2-0 in the Superbowl.
 
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I was at that game. It was 8 degrees overnight. Under 30 during the game. Got a free ticket from a friends group. Left at 1/2 along with many of that group. VET was a dump and a terrible football venue. Like Yankees Stadium the worst seat were at the 50 yard line!
Funny that Tampa's only two NFC Championships were on the road in cold cities. Green Bay and Philly. Also Tampa is 2-0 in the Superbowl.
Gruden was like General Washington pulling the upset
 
Monte Kiffen was General Washington. That was an all time great defense. Tampa won despite Gruden's offense.
True, but Brad Johnson did decide to play well at the right time that year. That D still had Brooks, Sapp and Lynch, right?
 
True, but Brad Johnson did decide to play well at the right time that year. That D still had Brooks, Sapp and Lynch, right?
Yes and that defense destroyed Oakland in the second half. Plus you forgot the MVP, Safety Dexter Jackson.
 
Poor comparison You said you dread going from a place to temps in 20s to place the in the 60s/70s. I never said I dread going from a place in the 100s to one in the 60s
I didn't say I dread anything related to temperature, I said I dread missing a snowstorm while I'm in Florida - I'd dread missing a snowstorm if I were skiing in Tahoe, too, given how infrequent major snowstorms are around here. And "dread" is obviously way over the top just to make a point, but I do like being at home whenever it snows. My guess is you wouldn't want to miss your favorite weather either.
 
Mid-single digits in Central Park's UHI (urban heat island) likely means below 0F readings almost everywhere else. It's going to get quite cold if the Euro is right, as per below and we're only 5-6 days out so this is a solid forecast. We also don't often see a CPC graphic for the next 6-10 days being that cold...



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Mid-single digits in Central Park's UHI (urban heat island) likely means below 0F readings almost everywhere else. It's going to get quite cold if the Euro is right, as per below and we're only 5-6 days out so this is a solid forecast. We also don't often see a CPC graphic for the next 6-10 days being that cold...



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early January 2014 was quite cold actually it was the 7th and 8th time frame, we had a funeral for my great aunt and the temps at 10AM was like 7 degrees with alot of wind so only a few strong men went to the actual site for the burial leaving the women and old folk behind at the church. Remember stretch of days in the teens for highs, that may be the last sustained frigid we had but I could be wrong on that..i know we have had other days in the teens for highs since.

The first frigid episode began on the 3rd, when late in the evening Walpack (Sussex) dropped to -12° and Pequest (Warren) reached -8°. By the morning of the 4th the temperature bottomed out at -13° in Walpack and -12° at Pequest. Kingwood (Hunterdon) was -10° and 28 other stations dropped below zero on the 4th. The “mildest" location in the state was Atlantic City Marina (Atlantic) at 13°. Walpack fell to -8° on the 5th and Pequest -5°.

Following the brief warm up on the 6th, minimums again fell below zero at some locations on the 7th, including -6° at High Point Monument (Sussex) and -5° at High Point (300 feet lower than the Monument station). Accompanying the cold on the 7th was strong wind that resulted in dangerous wind chills as low as -27° at the Monument at 11 AM, when the temperature was -4° with a wind speed of 20 mph. Wind chills of -10° to -20° (colder in gusts) were common across NJ during the daylight hours of the 7th, when thermometers across most of the state sat in the single digits. For instance at noon, temperatures ranged from -3° at High Point Monument to 12° in West Cape May (Cape May). These were the coldest daylight hours in NJ since January 19, 1994. The cold continued into the 8th, with lows of -4° at Walpack and -3° at the Monument, an interesting pair of minimums. The cold at Walpack is indicative of cold air pooling in valleys while High Point Monument is often the coldest location when cold air sweeps into the region, with winds at these times stirring up the lower atmosphere and minimizing cold air drainage into valleys.
 
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I expect a little snow today because my bird feeders were 100% booked this morning. Was getting some flurries about 30mins ago out here about 5mins from Del. River.
 
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Working a J&J gig in Fort Lauderdale all next week. ****ing loving it.
You ain't got nothin'!

My wife's in Mauritius for 3 weeks as she takes care of issues involving property and her father's grave. When she's not involved in that, she's walking on the beach.
 
You ain't got nothin'!

My wife's in Mauritius for 3 weeks as she takes care of issues involving property and her father's grave. When she's not involved in that, she's walking on the beach.
I feel so bad for her. I'm sure complications will arise and it may stretch out until the first 60 degree day up here. Just saying!
 
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