OT: NY Mets Season
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Howard was interim. Wasnt a Yankees HC. The missing one is incredibly obvious and there were 5.
Yes you are right its just 4. Quick math by me added the obvious but didnt take off Willie. The obsure shouldn't be. He won a World Series for another team
Tim Tebow improving. 2 for 5 tonight.
Now batting .269 5 HR 33 rbi
Thoughts from mets fans concerning if he gets called to the show in September?
Now batting .269 5 HR 33 rbi
Thoughts from mets fans concerning if he gets called to the show in September?
A hint on the fourth manager - a sad one indeed: he was in the news because his three year old granddaughter was killed in the Gabby Giffords shooting.
I think a Tebow call up is likely, and have no strong feelings one way or another. He is not a prospect and will not figure into the plans of the new GM, whomever it may be. He may provide a pleasant diversion in September (I doubt earlier), but it's really no big deal.
That is not to downplay what Tebow has accomplished, which is phenomenal. In two short years he has transformed himself from a joke (in baseball terms), to a bonafide organizational depth guy. The type of guy whom you could call up for a couple of weeks when someone is on the DL, and he won't embarrass you.
That is not to downplay what Tebow has accomplished, which is phenomenal. In two short years he has transformed himself from a joke (in baseball terms), to a bonafide organizational depth guy. The type of guy whom you could call up for a couple of weeks when someone is on the DL, and he won't embarrass you.
McNeil grand slam and Alonso two run HR last night.
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I admire you guys who keep tabs on the players in the minors. Sad statement on the current team when that is what Mets fans celebrate. But hope for the future, I guess.
As far as the future, I was reading the Wikipedia page on Ron Darling, and I forgot how bad the Mets were in 1983, and just three short years later, they won it all:
With Darling and Terrell each getting their first long-term chance in the majors and with the debut of young star and eventual Rookie of the Year Dwight Gooden, the Mets went from second-worst in the majors in 1983 to fourth-best in the majors in 1984 — but also second-best in the division thereby missing the postseason.
In 1986, everything came together for the Mets and Darling was no exception. He finished with a 15–6 record and posted his career-best 2.81 ERA which was third-best in the N.L. He also received the only Cy Young Award votes of his career, finishing fifth behind Mike Scott of the Astros. The Mets led the way most of the season and their top four starters all received Cy Young votes.
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Maybe the Mets will come back in a few years?
As far as the future, I was reading the Wikipedia page on Ron Darling, and I forgot how bad the Mets were in 1983, and just three short years later, they won it all:
With Darling and Terrell each getting their first long-term chance in the majors and with the debut of young star and eventual Rookie of the Year Dwight Gooden, the Mets went from second-worst in the majors in 1983 to fourth-best in the majors in 1984 — but also second-best in the division thereby missing the postseason.
In 1986, everything came together for the Mets and Darling was no exception. He finished with a 15–6 record and posted his career-best 2.81 ERA which was third-best in the N.L. He also received the only Cy Young Award votes of his career, finishing fifth behind Mike Scott of the Astros. The Mets led the way most of the season and their top four starters all received Cy Young votes.
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Maybe the Mets will come back in a few years?
That 1986 staff was one of the best that I can remember: Darling, Gooden, Ojeda, Fernandez and Aguilera during the latter half of the year.
Yes. Darling had a few good years.
Would like to think that Thor and deGrom are just as good or better than any of those 4, and if the Mets keep (they look like they will not) a fairly consistent Wheeler and Matz (that remains to be seen anyway), they would be solid.
The two biggest problems are the bullpen and offense.
I hope a new GM comes in and cleans house with the managerial staff and hitting coaches, etc.
I know Mets fans probably don't want to hear this, but it may not be the time to make panic trades with the pitching staff. They may not get enough value in return and then they would be really re-building from scratch.
Agreed. Matz and Wheeler are much maligned, but maybe they are turning things around.
Harvey seemed broken, but maybe (and it is a huge maybe), he needed to get out of New York--seems he is doing just OK now for the Reds, but he still has issues.
Mets lack speed and batters who can play small ball. Bruce and Cespedes are huge busts. I'll take a guy like Nimmo who can bat over .250 (my standards have fallen at Citi Field) over power hitters who strike out a lot and spend time on the DL.
1985: 17-9; 2.60 ERA; 276 Ks/218 IP
1986: 24-4; 1.53 ERA; 268Ks/276.2 IP
deGrom:
2015: 14-8; 2.54 ERA; 205Ks/191 IP
2018: 5-4 1.84 ERA; 134Ks/107 IP
A case could be made that deGrom is just as good. Let's keep in mind on W-L, the Mets' offense sucks.
Never took a close look at Thor's stats. He seems to strike more batters out, but his ERA is riding closer to 3.0
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I just realized that I have a Matt Harvey Mets bobblehead, on a shelf with my Kyle Flood bobblehead. Not sure what I should do with them at this point.
I'm superstitious. It has been detailed on these boards before.
2014- major fire in our offices. Found the Kyle Flood bobblehead head, but body was missing.
Had a Dwight Gooden bobblehead--completely missing after the fire.
Restocked Kyle Flood after the fire, as one of my sons had no use for him (smart kid). Never replaced Dwight Gooden--some suggested he started the fire. Matt Harvey was added to the fold.
Those damn bobbleheads are like the Tiki Idol in the Brady Bunch episode when they went to Hawaii.
I think I need to keep them. Or burn them in my oven at home, but then how will I get rid of the burned plastic?????
Going to the game tommorow folks. So far I’m 1-0 when attending this season. Last game I went to was the last of the 11 game win streak when matz pitched against the brewers
Kyle Flood's goal was to go 1-0 each week . . . . Enjoy!!!
Great news everyone! JENRRY MEJIA HAS BEEN REINSTATED!!!
Conditionally reinstated that is. He is allowed to participate in non-public Mets workouts after the All-Star break. In mid-August he is allowed a rehab assignment with a Met minor league affiliate. Then assuming he keeps his nose (and his urine) clean, he will be permitted to participate in Met Spring Training 2019.
Bullpen problem solved. This really helps take the sting out of losing Robles.
Conditionally reinstated that is. He is allowed to participate in non-public Mets workouts after the All-Star break. In mid-August he is allowed a rehab assignment with a Met minor league affiliate. Then assuming he keeps his nose (and his urine) clean, he will be permitted to participate in Met Spring Training 2019.
Bullpen problem solved. This really helps take the sting out of losing Robles.
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See that Alderson knew what he was doing with Jose........Bautista!
OK... I SAID THIS DURING THE 2015 PLAYOFFS ABOUT DANIEL MURPHY... SONIM GOING TO SAY IT HERE:
KEEP THE 4 PITCHERS AND SETH LUGO TOGETHER!!!!
It may be the wrong move as you may have to move at least 2 of the pitchers. But I think Wheeler and Matz have pitched well enough in the last month to have some wins if they (esp with degrom) had the support they deserve. If you have the starters, might be easier to build up the bullpen and improve the hitting, which you begin doing that by getting rid of that useless Jose Reyes.
But hey. Lets see what happens tomorrow.
Agree to a certain extent. Problem is Wilpons aren’t spending on FA and minor leagues, although better, are years away from truly contributing. Relying on injured players, like Ces and Bruce is allot to ask for
My thoughts: don't do anything major now, give Thor a chance to restore his form and rebuild his value, and take offers over the off season when everybody's in the market. Offseason is when blockbusters of that nature generally happen.
IMHO right now Noah Syndergaard is a luxury the Mets cannot afford. They've got young arms coming up through the system. What they don't have is five-tool athletes. To compete with Atlanta and Philly over the next 5-10 years, that's what they'll need.
I would be willing to trade Wheeler now though, as he is FA after next year.
IMHO right now Noah Syndergaard is a luxury the Mets cannot afford. They've got young arms coming up through the system. What they don't have is five-tool athletes. To compete with Atlanta and Philly over the next 5-10 years, that's what they'll need.
I would be willing to trade Wheeler now though, as he is FA after next year.
Keep in mind Syndergaard is only 25 y/o. Unless those arms coming up are "can't miss" type of players, then why trade away a young talent with a track record? Finding an ace is just as hard as finding a 5 tool player. The age difference between some of the prospects and Noah is marginal, so why hit the reset button? The Mets need to be smarter than going out and signing players north of 30 to contracts that end up restricting them from conducting future moves that would help the organization. Besides, do you really think the Mets will get real value in return if they trade Noah? Harvey is good example right now.
Chris Sale trade, Moncana was big prospect and is now hitting .230. Probably not going to get equal value. And White Sox still stink. Sorry I was thinking about Jacob more than Noah.
Novel way to lose today. Mets get the leadoff man on SEVEN times today, including three leadoff doubles - and still get shut out. That's hard to do.
Was not meant to be today. 99 out of 100 times that hit ball does not hit the pitchers leg, bounces to second baseman. Easy out
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No, the signing of Reyes was a correctable error, and will likely be corrected soon. If not, it will take care of itself in a couple of months.
The signing of Cespedes was a killer.
More than a correctable error, I believe.
Rosario is lollygagging. This is no coincidence. And not easily correctable.
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