OT: PGA and LIV Golf to merge….
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The PGA Tour doesnt have to be broke if it changed its model....but it shouldnt have to change its model the PGA Tour supports many many things outside mens golf and raises alot of money for charity. How many golfers women & men and tours does does it support along with amateur events. None of these garbage ass players would not have the money & opportunities they have without the PGA supporting them all along their journey tonthe PGA Tour.
It does not have to change...because someone from a country that does not like Americans has enough money to buy players...all these garbage ass players have shown they can be bought by anyone. The great thing about golf or any other sports...todays stars are tomorrow's has beens. There's plenty of youth coming up to replace them
Huh? I certainly do not. There are more tournaments without the name players and a bunch of nobody's is winning tournaments because they suddenly became low level tournaments as the top must play in the signature event and pass on all the rest these days. Good For You watching!
I agree with what Bus says above but you lost me with PGA Tour supporting players. The Tour doesn’t support you unless you are good enough to be there. Part of the reason why some players took the LIV money.
I belivwe the PGA players are considered independent contractors but are banned from the tour if they appear in events unsanctioned by the PGA .
The players pick which PGA events they want t play in and can address the media without restriction , but can be punished for offensive statments
LIV players are considered employees and sigh contracts for a certain amount of years ( on an individual bases) with signing bonuses and the ability to earn more playing LIV events and LIV players are not permitted to make any appearances in the media, or grant any exclusive interviews, without obtaining prior approval from the LIV .
My opinion is the LIV signing bonuses were intended to pull players away from the PGA tour and force a merger.
The PGA found funding that kept from needing to merge and now it's a case of (which happens first) the LIV backers getting tired of funding their tour or the PGA not having the funds to continue to hold out.
Both have supporters claiming the other will give up first and no one really knows what will happen .
They'll just find faults and claim the ( LIV/PGA) isn't worth watching because of those faults.
I belive the PGA feels if it can last to 2026 the LIV won't want to pay outragious resigning bonuses to the player whose contracts need to be renewed ( those signed by the LIV for 4 years in 2022) and they will come back to the PGA.
The LIV is banking on the PGA to not be able to financaly keep up the fight and work out a deal before 2026
Are you referring to all the past their prime players? If so, I agree they are better off at LIV.
Guys like Brooks, BDC and Rahm are in their prime and took the funds. Then there are the guys you are referencing…guys past their prime that wanted a payday. However there are also young guys that took the guaranteed cash over supporting themselves on the PGA and KF tours. Can’t blame them for taking the $.
Has golf jumped the shark for non players?
Will it fall to boxing's level?
A look at some of my SPORT Magazines from the 50's shows much higher interest for both.
Then again,it's a much different USA.
Will it fall to boxing's level?
A look at some of my SPORT Magazines from the 50's shows much higher interest for both.
Then again,it's a much different USA.
The COVID boost is over. Golf will be ok. If country clubs start running specials again, we can start the speculation of the sport dying.
When you say the COVID boost is over, are you referring to rounds being played? There has been no letdown by me. Rounds are still hard to book and I play with a ton of people that only started playing during COVID. Seems like they are still into it. Country club demand has not gone down. The only thing that has gone down is viewership and interest of pro golf. But I think some of that is related to COVID and the fact people would rather play a round than watch it now. At least that is true for me and my buds.
The problem is no one gives a shit about the format. So they cant be the elevated event.
In part because they lost players. But those viewers didn’t flock to LIV, which has an anemic TV viewership. And streaming isn’t much better viewer wise.
People are just not watching golf.
It starts with TV, follow by rounds played. But it will still be a net positive. The growth is over.
You are 100% wrong that players, at least the top players get to choose when they play. The signature events are mandatory stops for for the top 50 IIRC. If you miss one you get a huge deduction from your year end bonus. Rory missed one event and lost $4 million. Meanwhile Tiger has been the highest bonus paid golfer missing a ton of events two years in a row. Wonder what he got this year?
As I said from day 1 the LIV was never after the PGA but the DP Tour and it's looking like they will succeed.
Of course they were after the PGA tour. Are the top players on the PGA or DP Tour?
PGA is going to lose more players. Maybe not from the top ten, but LIV is gutting the PGA of its good second-tier players. This hurts PGA events and the sport itself. Gotta make a deal and end this.
Other than the PGA Tour, this is a bit OT.
If you follow the Tour you know Chris Gotterup has struggled since winning the Myrtle Beach event, missing 7 of 11 cuts mostly because of poor driving.
Well today he did something you don't see a lot. On the 440yd, Par 4 4th, he drove the ball 408 yards straight down the middle, leaving him 70' from the pin. Unfortunately after a nice chip he missed a 5' Birdie putt.
The 2nd round has been suspended with him on the 5th hole. He's -1 with the cut currently bouncing back and forth between -2 and -3.
If you follow the Tour you know Chris Gotterup has struggled since winning the Myrtle Beach event, missing 7 of 11 cuts mostly because of poor driving.
Well today he did something you don't see a lot. On the 440yd, Par 4 4th, he drove the ball 408 yards straight down the middle, leaving him 70' from the pin. Unfortunately after a nice chip he missed a 5' Birdie putt.
The 2nd round has been suspended with him on the 5th hole. He's -1 with the cut currently bouncing back and forth between -2 and -3.
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