If so, we’ll know if the story is true or FOS. No reason why all of them don’t sign a big contract with LIV now.
OT: PGA and LIV Golf to merge….
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Unless they think the LIV brand is done after the year…and they’ll get a big check now from the PGA..
So many moving parts
Wow, now PGA will sign players to guaranteed money. Love it. But I thought PGA doesn’t have money and that’s why they had to take the deal with LIV. Or, maybe it’s LIV money used on the PGA tour but why not just signed with LIV? Maybe, just maybe it’s FOS.
Pga didn’t have the money..now they do. I think they will pay players now…
In shorts with shotgun starts. They should allow carts so they can play music they want and have alcohol.
You think giving 3 years to take on a hundred year old monopoly and be break even is realistic? I understand impatience. But, that's just a ridiculous ask. It's like the people on here who think we should be on par with the OSU's of the world in a decade. Lunacy. They've been building a huge money brand almost forever.
If the folks charged with the task was burning though their budgeted bankroll like drunken sailors, I could see clipping their wings. But I don't see that as the case here.
I am not saying "I'm right, you're wrong" by any means. Just trying to understand the logic. Remember, I thought it was a tall task from go and had a low expectation of success. Stated as much to my guy in this mix.
I don't have minutes from these meetings but I'm told these guys are legit and all in. Just doesn't jibe with what you're saying here.
I don't know about three years but there clearly was a plan/belief/expectation that the LIV model would break even or be profitable for them. I don't think they were willing to accept 10 years to do it either. They were pushing the franchise model hard because they needed to sell part of their stake in the teams to recoup some of their cash outlays. When the PIF said in December that they were disappointed they weren't further along (and the COO got pushed out), it was clear this wasn't going to be a hobby and they weren't going to just throw cash into a toilet for 10 years.
But yeah, 3 years to be break even seems a bit nuts given the massive outlays just to get the league off the ground.
Sustainable and self sufficient?Not a chance in hell.
That's not how the real world works. Even with a ridiculous budget. Magic wands break any bank.
Unless we hired Dion Sanders of course😂😂😂
These are not stupid people I would think. You really believe they thought they'd make headway in less than 5?
I'm not seeing it. I guess you CAN be stupid when you have stupid money though. We'll see soon enough I guess.
Are we talking RU or LIV? If PIF gave RU 500mm for NIL and coaching staff, you don’t think we beat OSU?
I’ve seen a few examples of Rory continuing to be in Monahan’s corner since yesterday’s announcement.
In his press conference this morning when asked if he still has faith in Monahan leading the new combined entity, Rory confirmed that he does (after a long pause, allegedly).
During the players meeting with Monahan, Rory was allegedly combative with players speaking out against Monahan.
What I don’t get is why. Monahan hung Rory out to dry big time. If I’m Rory, I’m seriously rethinking being in bed with that guy.
In his press conference this morning when asked if he still has faith in Monahan leading the new combined entity, Rory confirmed that he does (after a long pause, allegedly).
During the players meeting with Monahan, Rory was allegedly combative with players speaking out against Monahan.
What I don’t get is why. Monahan hung Rory out to dry big time. If I’m Rory, I’m seriously rethinking being in bed with that guy.
I absolutely believe they thought, at the very least, they'd have made significant progress by then. And that the franchise/sponsor model was either taking off or at least close to taking off. You really think the Saudis were going to throw away billions with little to no return for a decade?
Find something the Saudis have funded for a decade for massive losses because they keep throwing billions at it annually? You likely won't find one. They've made bad investments, like the loss they took on CreditSuisse but I can't think of a high profile investment they've made where they willing just kept throwing billions down the toilet for 10 years or more.
Again, one year in they already had pushed the COO out and made comments that they thought they'd be farther along than they were. If that happens after less than a year of LIV operations, that tells me they weren't going to happily chuck billions into a hole in the ground with real movement towards at least breaking even.
PS - Don't take this as an opinion that the PIF caved here. I just tend to think they had as much incentive to work with the PGAT as the PGAT did with them.
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No. Nothing to do with it. This was all about the lawsuits and neither were going to give up their secrets. This was a case of letting the fox into the henhouse. The PGA lost years ago and didn't realize it until Friday.
DPWT says it is 'highly unlikely' suspended players will be reinstated or play Ryder Cup
In a memo to players Wednesday, the DP World Tour said it was "highly unlikely" that suspended players would be reinstated.
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But they won. Winners get locked out.
And they succeeded faster in this endeavor than any other one they have been involved in. They didn't lose billions and billions on this. They didn't even lose a billion! They made tremendous progress in less than 6 months. The PGA panicked and increased purses and realized that wasn't sustainable. You continue to harp on the LIV failure in the first year simply because you been wrong. In less then a year they have controlling interest in the professional World Golf.
Did you even read the story? They will be back next year. That story is about letting them back in this year which ends with the FedEx Championship
DPWT says it is 'highly unlikely' suspended players will be reinstated or play Ryder Cup
In a memo to players Wednesday, the DP World Tour said it was "highly unlikely" that suspended players would be reinstated.
But they won. Winners get locked out.
I did. The winners have to apply join the losers. just like the PGA tour. Sounds like winning.
The LIV players are huge winners. Rory was asked if those that turned down deals should get paid what was offered. He said of course. Good luck with that Rory! Rory came off like an ass last night defending Monahan. Getting yelled at by others furious golfers.
LIV players will be winners if they can get their status back on the PGA tour. But I think only the top players will get back easily. Has been will go to Champions
That would be true even if they never left. For guys at the end of their career this was a major win. The guy in between is Phil. Phil with his PGA Championship win will have two more years exemption left starting next year.
Ultimately PIF was going to keep pumping in $$$ no matter what. If they are going to spend $ billions upon billions on a 100 mile long skyscraper do you think they were going to stop investing in golf. The only way they will become irrelevant is if they run dry on oil reserves. The LIV guys will pay a premium to get back in or they can go play on their own somewhere. The PGA Tour does not need them to succeed, they now need the PGATour which includes the DP & Aisian Tour.
The Liv has always been a farce from the get go.
The PGA tour certainly needs the top guys. Sponsors and the media sure want Brooks playing in the Ryder Cup. They paid a lot of money for the best.
Yeah, because rejecting a sh1t load of money to do something you don’t believe in is getting owned. But selling out isn’t.
Nobody sold out. Claiming staying with the PGA tour is some moral high ground is laughable.
They just took a new job that paid more and required them to work less.
When oil doesn’t bring them wealth, they are done. Can’t wait.
That’s what they want the competition to think. They burn cash to get market share. But if they don’t feel like they can buy it, they do tap out. The strategy does work. Who says no to boat load of money.
I don't know what that is. I was referring to taking more money and working less.
But back on topic, Rory is not moral for sticking with the PGA and the others are not immoral for taking the LIV money. That's a joke.
I would buy that before Phil’s interview. I don’t buy that you didn’t hear about Phil’s interview. Rory didn’t take the money. What’s his reason?
