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OT: Queen Elizabeth has died

As a friend of the family said when my Dad passed at 92…96 isn’t a tragedy.

A life of service well lived.

My Irish grandmother (my Dad’s mom) who came to the US in the 20’s and passed in 1974 was a big fan.
 
Actually many in the UK do not like the monarchy and the monarchy has not had any real power for a long time, almost 200 years. Even by the time of Victoria they were mostly figureheads. The royal family performs symbolic state functions like dinners, which have a place in diplomacy, but aren't actual governance.
Many? As in 18% many?? Because those are the numbers against it.
There is always one that has to make a broad statement with no facts to support it.
 
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As a descendent of two Jamestown settlers and three veterans of the American Revolution, I will only say that to criticize the monarchy is to not thoroughly understand the notion of the UK's monarchy and peerage. It's not necessarily a "one size fits all" solution to government, but then neither is any other. It's worked in the UK for a thousand years - we're 250 years deep into our own system and it's a total clusterf*ck at the moment. So maybe we just acknowledge Britain's successes and wish them condolences on the death of the Queen and best of luck moving forward.
Which ones? I'm descended from the West family (Lord de la Warre - who captained the ship that took Pocahontas to England).
 
As a loyal subject of the Crown, I mourn the passing of the Queen and will honour her with a dry martini tonight, or perhaps a gin and Dubonnet, which she also liked.

Royalty is a worthy subject for debate, but if you are going to have it, EII was about as good as you could ask for.
 
Which ones? I'm descended from the West family (Lord de la Warre - who captained the ship that took Pocahontas to England).

Directly descended from Capt. Thomas Warren on my father's side. There's another on my paternal grandmother's side, who escapes me at the moment, I'll have to check Ancestry. Also on that same paternal grandmother's side are a shitload of people from the Massachusetts Bay Colony.
 
Don’t know what her policies will be, but the new Prime Minister Liz Truess gave a very good and appropriate speech.
 
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This story alone makes her a bad ass. RIP

Quick story, our family was in London walking back to our B&B in the evening after a long day of sightseeing. We were ready to cross the street and a motorcycle cop pulled up and asked us to stop. Seconds later the Queen rides by and waves , have to admit I was like " holy crap"

 
May she RIP…with king C that institution is in trouble…too bad they can’t go straight to William.

In recent years, her mystique was that she was a living link to a time when the mystique was still real. Her children, grandchildren and great grandchildren can’t make that claim. Charles, William…I’m not sure it matters. Her reign got grandfathered into modernity; the heirs won’t get the same break…they’re all too human.

Just one American’s take.
 
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Heard an interesting interview with a “royal expert” about what King Charles will bring to the table. They talked about him bringing a more progressive approach to the monarchy, e.g. - advocating certain causes, opening the palaces for more tourism, etc.
 
Always thought the whole Hanover line was a ridiculous testament to anti-catholic religious bigotry. They actually went to Germany to find protestant relatives to "inherit" the English throne. And that's who the current royal family really is.

I say just give the crown back to the Yorkist line... and that would be this guy with the ball cap.

The 15th Earl of Loudoun, Simon Abney-Hastings visited Loudoun Co today. He is pictured with Chairman Scott York.


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As a friend of the family said when my Dad passed at 92…96 isn’t a tragedy.

A life of service well lived.

My Irish grandmother (my Dad’s mom) who came to the US in the 20’s and passed in 1974 was a big fan.
My Irish mom was the same.. born same year as her highness.. and her family was chock full of rebels.. but, somehow, she respected and liked the Queen.
 
Always thought the whole Hanover line was a ridiculous testament to anti-catholic religious bigotry. They actually went to Germany to find protestant relatives to "inherit" the English throne. And that's who the current royal family really is.

I say just give the crown back to the Yorkist line... and that would be this guy with the ball cap.

The 15th Earl of Loudoun, Simon Abney-Hastings visited Loudoun Co today. He is pictured with Chairman Scott York.


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Earl of Loudoun

‘Monarch in exile’ sounds more glamorous than it looks
 
‘Monarch in exile’ sounds more glamorous than it looks
What I am saying is that it was a few important people in parliament who selected the current royal family... so.. why not do it again? Have a little competition... maybe a season of SURVIVOR: Great Britain... to select the next royal family. Would seem to be just as valid as what they have now.

And since Scotland is pretty much its own country now.. maybe all these estates "owned" by the Royals should be seized and used for a public purpose. Maybe Scotland should have their own royals.. if they want one.
 
Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a a surge in streaming of The Crown on Netflix oe The Queen movie because interest or curiosity.
 
Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a a surge in streaming of The Crown on Netflix oe The Queen movie because interest or curiosity.
Totally. They’ll run the whole gamut- what was the movie about the Princess Diana death and funeral? The Queen? That’ll get some more views.
 
my guess is Prince Charles much rather his mother be alive and feels his being crowned King can come at a later date because he wants his mother living..
I believe most sons and daughters would rather their mother be alive than gain from their
death.

R.I.P Queen Elizabeth , the English people loved you and most of the world admired you during your long reign.
I served her strawberry short cake when I was 10, as part of her visiting the royal Canadian air force base in Summerside Prince Edward Island. Shook her hand . May she Rest In Peace
 
RIP. She will go down as a legend for a 70+ year reign. The Brits (mostly) revere the monarchy and its amazing history. The royals are also basically rock stars around the world - as well known as anyone on the planet.

Although I disdain the monarchy, I've watched a number of seasons of The Crown and am just finishing up Downton Abbey (a surprisingly good show). And yes, I watched a bit of various royal weddings and followed the various scandals and deaths, so I guess I'm no more immune to the attraction of the British royal family than anyone else.

That said, I prefer the American system far more than the British System. Their class system is, IMO, abhorrent even as I'm glad we are such close allies.

QEII guided the UK through a big fall in power over her reign. I think she will be remembered for that as much as for the length of her reign and her general popularity.
 
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For history buffs, the Revolutions Podcast is top-notch. The British Revolution is really interested and complicated.

 
Heard an interesting interview with a “royal expert” about what King Charles will bring to the table. They talked about him bringing a more progressive approach to the monarchy, e.g. - advocating certain causes, opening the palaces for more tourism, etc.
He's a flake - had a recording leaked of him telling Camilla Parker he wanted to be her "Tampax." Nobody would want to be Camilla's mirror nevermind her Tampax.

Alas Charles is a climate change dunce which should play well as Europe circles the drain of history

I'll miss Elizabeth II. Just a few years back she was in NYC laying a wreath at WTC site in 103F heat




 
Actually many in the UK do not like the monarchy and the monarchy has not had any real power for a long time, almost 200 years. Even by the time of Victoria they were mostly figureheads. The royal family performs symbolic state functions like dinners, which have a place in diplomacy, but aren't actual governance.
As a human I’m saddened by her passing. But The Queen was little more than a celebrity and ambassador. The royal family is actually a corporation for tax purposes.
 
I could not agree more that Charles is probably one of the least deserving to ever be named king. Which reminded me of King Edward. I've linked an article to him that shows he was a Nazi sympathizer. He abdicted the crown in 1936.

And then there is Prince Andrew - a frequent visitor to Epstein's island.
 
I served her strawberry short cake when I was 10, as part of her visiting the royal Canadian air force base in Summerside Prince Edward Island. Shook her hand . May she Rest In Peace
People forget she was also figurehead for the Commonwealth realm

Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, The Bahamas, Belize, Canada, Grenada, Jamaica, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, and the United Kingdom.


 
My Irish mom was the same.. born same year as her highness.. and her family was chock full of rebels.. but, somehow, she respected and liked the Queen.
My parents 2nd generation Irish Catholic Americans never talked about the IRA at all. Long after they both passed I asked my dad's cousin why. He said look into the IRA record during WWII. Nobody talks about it. Some crazy shit.
 
As a descendent of two Jamestown settlers and three veterans of the American Revolution, I will only say that to criticize the monarchy is to not thoroughly understand the notion of the UK's monarchy and peerage. It's not necessarily a "one size fits all" solution to government, but then neither is any other. It's worked in the UK for a thousand years - we're 250 years deep into our own system and it's a total clusterf*ck at the moment. So maybe we just acknowledge Britain's successes and wish them condolences on the death of the Queen and best of luck moving forward.
#FreeRU4Real - welcome back! My mom's side of the family is descended from someone on the Mayflower (name escapes me...my cousin has the records)
 
96 years old. 70 years as the Monarch. She served her country well.

She did?

Seems like a pointless job in a gilded cage.

Like a performing monkey in a circus cage.

Holding on to a farce that should have been done away with 100 years ago.

I pitied her more than anything.
 
Am I crazy or was there a "rumor"/discussion about them potentially skipping Charles years back and going right to William when the time came?
 
Many? As in 18% many?? Because those are the numbers against it.
There is always one that has to make a broad statement with no facts to support it.
That's millions of people. I'm not sure why you're so defensive for the queen of another country.
 
When I was in Vietnam in 1969 I served in an artillery battery which was in general support of Australian /New Zealand operations in III Corps. We were physically located at Nui Dat, the base of ANZAC operations in Vietnam. I remember that the Aussie and Kiwi troops showed great respect and reverence for their Queen, whose picture was prominently displayed in a few of the base buildings. I regret that on one occasion, after consuming one too many Victoria Bitters, I disparaged the Queen and was immediately castigated by my Kiwi peers. I never made that mistake again. RIP.

Edit- There is now a substantial groundswell of support in Australia to move to Republic status and leave the Commonwealth. They were just waiting for the Queen to die before making the break. Jamaica is also considering the same.
 
My parents 2nd generation Irish Catholic Americans never talked about the IRA at all. Long after they both passed I asked my dad's cousin why. He said look into the IRA record during WWII. Nobody talks about it. Some crazy shit.
When I went to Ireland and Europe in the 80s.. my Mom took me aside and said.. "Now don't go asking after your cousin Dennis.."... might as well have come with a knowing finger touch to the nose... apparently he was on a list of some sort... not that I had any idea I had a cousin Dennis. Yeah.. no talk of that.. ever. I once came home in an orange shirt I had bought.... Mom was none too pleased... though it's a great color for me. To her, the Irish flag was green, white, and gold, not orange.
 
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