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To be honest Chris Christie has done some serious collateral damage to Teachers, Police and Government employees in general. He was very clever in splitting the democratic vote by throwing tens of millions in construction contracts and placating Steve Sweeney's wishes. In two years you'll have three serious contenders vying for Governor Phil Murphy, Steve Sweeney and Steve Fulop (sp). If north Jersey is to once again dominate politics in NJ they will need to whip Central Jersey's political bosses back in line. A Fulop or Murphy win is very bad news for Rutgers and Bob Barchi and everyone he brought in from Penn to facilitate the medical school merger. Stay away from politics it's a dirty business.
The deal was hands off prevailing wage for pension/benefits reform. But the Democrats know the pension/HC benefits system is unfixable. They will talk, talk, talk, but at the end of the day, they will never fully fund it.
The Dems in Trenton have been running NJ into the ground since 2001 and have been kept in check with Christie as Gov. Watch what happens once Sweeney is elected - to RU, to our taxes, to our quality of life. And yes, I believe Norcross will get Sweeney elected. Norcross will have Sweeney on the Bergen, Essex, and Passiac party lines and he has recruited another Hudson County pol to run and take votes away from Fulop.
The problem with the Democrats is they had the numbers they needed and still didn't enact the legislation that their supporters want to see. It's not that they CAN'T do anything, it's that even when they can, they DON'T.
I've only ever voted for people who want to take money out of politics. The problem is there are too many people who are willing to sacrifice that because they think that keeping a Republican/Democrat out of office is more important, which just perpetuates and expands the problem of money in politics to the point where regular people are pretty much completely powerless and are at the mercy of the top dogs who buy the elections. These people who vote for Democrats and Republicans no matter how corrupt they are prevent the country from making any progress.
He is clearly in favor of raising the top rate to 50% and has been quoted as saying he's willing to look at rates up to 90%. Check out the interview with John Harwood. That's on top of jacking up the capital gains rates.
http://www.thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/05/26/3662773/sanders-90-percent-tax/
And that STILL won't pay for all the programs he proposes.
"The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." - Margaret Thatcher
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Both Fulop or Murphy will be very difficult to beat. Remember both Norcross and Christie suffered their first significant defeat in Newark. Norcross quietly threw millions of dollars towards Jefferies, then factor in Christies and DiVincenzo's support and in the end a Cody-Fulop backed Ras Baraka won the election. At the end of the day the war will be won and lost between exits 7A and 18W because that is where the population lies. Remember what I said in my original post, "North Jersey Democrats will need absolute cooperation from every political boss from 7A to 18W. If they are successful then either Fulop or Murphy will have this race won before election day, if not, it will be a very very tight.
If you add the number of people who don't consider themselves a Democrat or a Republican, you get a number in between that of the Democrats and Republicans. It's a shame the representation in government isn't proportionate.
Margaret Thatcher did not disable the NHS. Is she a socialist?
Eisenhower taxed the rich up to 90%... socialist?
Eliminating the military waste would pay for college alone.
I never really thought of a limit, because I know the way to solve this, simply make the billionaires pay the same rates as everyone else, stop the military and overseas spending waste, and end the war on drugs. Legalize weed and tax it. There are so many different things you can do where you could expand the social safety net and really unless you work for a defense contractor or the cops or are a billionaire you likely won't notice.
And order to change all that, you have to get the money out of it, overturn Citizens United to start.
As a general point, Republican nominations to the Supreme Court gave us Citizens United, so to say voting doesn't matter, well if you have any interest in keeping money out of politics, aside from McCain and maybe a handful of others, to be fair, maybe even Trump, all of the other Republicans are kissing the Koch/Adelson ring, which means tax cuts for billionaires and our defense decisions being decided by settlers in the West Bank. So it matters.
And frankly, I don't see what's very conservative about that....sounds like big government and the people getting steamrolled.
And frankly, I don't see what's very conservative about that....sounds like big government and the people getting steamrolled.
You seem to have this weird obsession with the Koch's and Adelson, yet you are silent about the George Soros' and Tom Steyer's who contribute to your side....seems like you have quite a big double standard.
Um...you do realize that Citizens United applies to all money right? So it effects you no matter who you donate to.
That said, George Soros and Steyer calling for more taxes and regulations only hurts them.
OTOH, the Kochs are donating strictly so they do not have to pay taxes. To the point in their home state of Kansas that schools cannot afford to stay open.
Sheldon Adelson cares only about Israel and banning online gambling. As a citizen of only the US, I find it extremely upsetting that he bribes our politicians to the point of the 23k/year per citizen we donate to a country with free healthcare and college for its citizens is considered anti-Israel if you don't vote for more and to let their leaders tell us how to conduct our foreign policy...doesn't sound like America First to me....and Rand Paul agrees and Christie was called out by Sheldon's thugs for calling the West Bank occupied...which it is considered by all governments in the world since 1967....
What would the reaction be to a dual American-Saudi or Iranian citizen who donated billions to politicians to keep them from criticizing those countries or in the case of Saudi to give them more money? Would that be OK? It would never happen but Republicans act like we should care what Adelson has to say.
Of course I realize that it both sides.
But my point is why do you only criticize the people on the right who donate money, but give a free pass to the people on the left?
I am not giving them a free pass. Overturning Citizens United gives a free pass back to the people.
But do let me know when the causes of Soros and Steyer cause Kansas schoolchildren to be unable to continue to attend, or when they consult with foreign leaders about US foreign policy, because I will criticize them for it.
Not in the US. In "socialist" France and for insider trading.
Yet one of the Kochs lived in a rent controlled NYC apartment, and takes money from American schoolchildren.
And Sheldon Adelson admitting to bribing the Chinese government, yet we have to listen to him in international affairs?
That's the point of the whole thing....both sides do the same things...but it's very hypocritical to call out one side and not the other.
And by the way, who cares that it happened in France. He still did it
Because one effects Americans, and one doesn't. That's the problem- Koch and Adelson invest in politics to screw over the 99% of this country that isn't a billionaire. The liberal ones don't do that, if anything they screw themselves over.
“I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself”a Churchill quote. So I did my own research on some of the stats I've seen tossed around about this administration. The picture looks really good when you look at one piece of data. However, once you actually get into the data, it's more telling and the performance is not that great. The best piece of news would be that the current administration has gotten things back on track. But some of the claims they make are very misleading.
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Republicans have controlled Monmouth County government for years. Monmouth County is a cesspool of political patronage. You think Republicans are against taxes? Think again.
http://php.app.com/taxpain/2015/10/12/windfall-for-tax-assessors/
Matt Clark is Monmouth County’s tax administrator. He created the Assessment Demonstration Program (ADP) and wrote most of the law that created the pilot program. He is overseeing its roll out in the county.
Daniel Kelly was a Monmouth County tax board commissioner from 2005 to 2013. He was became an owner of Realty Data Systems four months after his final tax board meeting.
Michael Panter is Kelly’s childhood friend and one of the original three owners of Realty Data Systems, the company that is receiving much of the revaluation business related to ADP.
Neil and Steven Rubenstein own Realty Appraisal Company, which has won 85 percent of the revaluation work in Monmouth County. They started Realty Data Systems with Panter in February 2013.
William FitzPatrick is Wall Township’s municipal tax assessor. He is a part owner of Value Added Systems, a subcontractor for Realty
Appraisal Company.
Scott Imbriaco is Tinton Falls’ municipal tax assessor. He is a part owner of Value Added Systems, a subcontractor for Realty Appraisal Company.
George Snedden is Matt Clark’s father-in-law. He’s is co-owner of Value Added Systems with FitzPatrick and Imbriaco.
Value Added Systems, LLC takes photographs of buildings for Realty Appraisal Company. Value Added is owned by FitzPatrick, Imbriaco and Snedden.
Realty Data Systems, LLC was created by the Rubenstein brothers and Panter, with Kelly later being named as an owner. It has won the majority of the inspection contracts under ADP.
Realty Appraisal Company, LLC is the Rubenstein brothers’ property appraisal company. It has won all but two of the revaluation contracts required under ADP.
http://php.app.com/taxpain/2015/10/12/windfall-for-tax-assessors/
Matt Clark is Monmouth County’s tax administrator. He created the Assessment Demonstration Program (ADP) and wrote most of the law that created the pilot program. He is overseeing its roll out in the county.
Daniel Kelly was a Monmouth County tax board commissioner from 2005 to 2013. He was became an owner of Realty Data Systems four months after his final tax board meeting.
Michael Panter is Kelly’s childhood friend and one of the original three owners of Realty Data Systems, the company that is receiving much of the revaluation business related to ADP.
Neil and Steven Rubenstein own Realty Appraisal Company, which has won 85 percent of the revaluation work in Monmouth County. They started Realty Data Systems with Panter in February 2013.
William FitzPatrick is Wall Township’s municipal tax assessor. He is a part owner of Value Added Systems, a subcontractor for Realty
Appraisal Company.
Scott Imbriaco is Tinton Falls’ municipal tax assessor. He is a part owner of Value Added Systems, a subcontractor for Realty Appraisal Company.
George Snedden is Matt Clark’s father-in-law. He’s is co-owner of Value Added Systems with FitzPatrick and Imbriaco.
Value Added Systems, LLC takes photographs of buildings for Realty Appraisal Company. Value Added is owned by FitzPatrick, Imbriaco and Snedden.
Realty Data Systems, LLC was created by the Rubenstein brothers and Panter, with Kelly later being named as an owner. It has won the majority of the inspection contracts under ADP.
Realty Appraisal Company, LLC is the Rubenstein brothers’ property appraisal company. It has won all but two of the revaluation contracts required under ADP.
