ADVERTISEMENT

OT: Retirement plans

But you can find semi private beautiful beaches all over NJ. That is like saying Ny is NYC.
“The first rule of fight club…”

Come on, man….

bunk-moreland.gif
 
  • Like
Reactions: yesrutgers01
Part of my decision to retire at 57 was based on 2 of my best friends dying young: my best friend growing up died at 50 from skin cancer and one of my best friends for many years in my 40s and 50s died of a heart attack when he was 48 (I was about 54). There are no guarantees and I figured why not at least try to enjoy some good years while we can and not worry that we could've made even more money when we have enough for awhile.
Occupational hazard for me.

But I know what you mean.

And you and your friends at MERCK have done wonders for my extended family’s portfolio. On behalf of them…thank you. You’ve earned it. Now go enjoy it.
 
“The first rule of fight club…”

Come on, man….

bunk-moreland.gif
trying not to break the rules but can say we were at Pt. Pleasant, posted a pic on Facebook and one of Jackie’s dear friends posted their house was near and we should pop over. We did and 2 hours later, sitting with them on a beach no more than 1 Mike away with almost no one in sight.
 
Part of my decision to retire at 57 was based on 2 of my best friends dying young: my best friend growing up died at 50 from skin cancer and one of my best friends for many years in my 40s and 50s died of a heart attack when he was 48 (I was about 54). There are no guarantees and I figured why not at least try to enjoy some good years while we can and not worry that we could've made even more money when we have enough for awhile.
I hear that. In the last month my RU roommate of 4 years died, age 58, my cousins wife, age 55 and neighbor age 47.

One of the reasons I choose to stay in my current role too. Freedom to work from home and live at the beach. Quality of life more important at this point in life
 
But you can find semi private beautiful beaches all over NJ. That is like saying Ny is NYC.

Well, Bethanny and surrounding beaches were nicer and less crowded than any NJ beach I've been to or through. Which is what I said to begin with.
 
Grape growing is great down here. Pinot noir and pinot gris are the two big wines down here. There are hundreds of wineries. Wine tasting is a huge pasttime.

It's a bit difficult to get permanent residence down here after age 55, so if you're going to do it, you might want to look into it now. NZ is a truly beautiful place and people are super nice.
I did see that about the 55 and under requirement for a number of the visas. I’m about a year and half away from that cutoff but my wife is a few years younger so that probably gives us a little more time. I do see there is a retirement visa but that one doesn’t lock in until age 66. I obviously went into the wrong line of work! I should have stayed in academia after my post-doc and could have likely qualified for the skilled labor/position of need route!
 
I did see that about the 55 and under requirement for a number of the visas. I’m about a year and half away from that cutoff but my wife is a few years younger so that probably gives us a little more time. I do see there is a retirement visa but that one doesn’t lock in until age 66. I obviously went into the wrong line of work! I should have stayed in academia after my post-doc and could have likely qualified for the skilled labor/position of need route!
The retirement visa could be a very good option. Didn't know about that. We got in initially on a "talent" visa originally designed for movie people and the like, but the universities use it as well.
 
Part of my decision to retire at 57 was based on 2 of my best friends dying young: my best friend growing up died at 50 from skin cancer and one of my best friends for many years in my 40s and 50s died of a heart attack when he was 48 (I was about 54). There are no guarantees and I figured why not at least try to enjoy some good years while we can and not worry that we could've made even more money when we have enough for awhile.
This is how I feel. I know way too many people who by the time they retired couldn’t physically do what they planned on doing in retirement
 
There was a replenishment project for Belmar, Avon and the northern part of Spring Lake a few years ago and that’s was ended up there.
For the best beaches in the area go to SNJ and Cape May County. Night and day different than northern beaches. So much softer and powdery. NNJ beaches are, well, NNJ beaches. :)
 
This is how I feel. I know way too many people who by the time they retired couldn’t physically do what they planned on doing in retirement
The problem for a lot of people is poor diet and lack of exercise. Peter Attia, MD devoted a whole podcast to how to exercise for longevity. A combination of strength, balance, Zone 2, and Zone 5 training (it's not as complicated as it sounds) makes a lot of sense. It can be hard to find the time to do some form of exercise every day, but even if you are pressed for time and do a micro workout of 3-4 sets of pushups to failure and some air or wall squats (or lunges), you have at least done something to slow (and/or reverse) sarcopenia. I often run into mountain bikers in their 70s in Arizona who shred guys in their 30s and 40s.

Yes, it is much easier said than done,but there is no reason to let yourself deteriorate in your 50s and 60s to become frail, weak and prone to falling.

 
The problem for a lot of people is poor diet and lack of exercise. Peter Attia, MD devoted a whole podcast to how to exercise for longevity. A combination of strength, balance, Zone 2, and Zone 5 training (it's not as complicated as it sounds) makes a lot of sense. It can be hard to find the time to do some form of exercise every day, but even if you are pressed for time and do a micro workout of 3-4 sets of pushups to failure and some air or wall squats (or lunges), you have at least done something to slow (and/or reverse) sarcopenia. I often run into mountain bikers in their 70s in Arizona who shred guys in their 30s and 40s.

Yes, it is much easier said than done,but there is no reason to let yourself deteriorate in your 50s and 60s to become frail, weak and prone to falling.

Rule #1 - Maintain normal weight
Rule #2 - Be active 3-4 times a week
Rule #3 - Don't smoke, drink too much, or do any drugs

This is 95% of the battle.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Knight Shift
Been thinking lately about retirement. If things pan out I have ~10-12 more years, if not it could be 18-20. What are everyone’s plans for retirement? Target age, destination, to do list, places you want to see/go, etc?

In a perfect world, I'd move out of NJ and down to Florida (Tallahassee), and also have a summer place in New England (coastal CT/RI, or Mass). From September - May, I'd really like to be active with FSU boosters, volunteer for worthy causes (Ukraine supplies, etc.), and attend many different sporting events (football, soccer, basketball,
Social security income benefits are not considered income for NJ state income tax purposes. In addition, if your total income is below $150,000, you can exclude a portion of your pension income and (if your pension income is below a certain percentage of your income) a portion of other retirement income. See https://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/njit7.shtml
BTW, if you are not eligible for social security and your income is below $150,000, there is a special exclusion up to $6000 of your retirement income. See the same link.
 
The problem for a lot of people is poor diet and lack of exercise. Peter Attia, MD devoted a whole podcast to how to exercise for longevity. A combination of strength, balance, Zone 2, and Zone 5 training (it's not as complicated as it sounds) makes a lot of sense. It can be hard to find the time to do some form of exercise every day, but even if you are pressed for time and do a micro workout of 3-4 sets of pushups to failure and some air or wall squats (or lunges), you have at least done something to slow (and/or reverse) sarcopenia. I often run into mountain bikers in their 70s in Arizona who shred guys in their 30s and 40s.

Yes, it is much easier said than done,but there is no reason to let yourself deteriorate in your 50s and 60s to become frail, weak and prone to falling.

I tried my best to get through this but 13 minutes in and I turned 100...lol
 
  • Like
Reactions: Knight Shift
Rule #1 - Maintain normal weight
Rule #2 - Be active 3-4 times a week
Rule #3 - Don't smoke, drink too much, or do any drugs

This is 95% of the battle.
Agree but genetics also play a huge role. Some people eat horribly and don't get heart disease. Others exercise and eat right and die suddenly from a heart attack. Life insurance companies are very interested in the longevity of your parents and siblings.
 
Agree but genetics also play a huge role. Some people eat horribly and don't get heart disease. Others exercise and eat right and die suddenly from a heart attack. Life insurance companies are very interested in the longevity of your parents and siblings.
They are in a tizzy with mine. Mom passed at age 40 and Dad passed at 92. All siblings over 50 and alive. You would think they would reason Mom was the outliner as she did die of cancer with a 3 pack a day habit most of her short life.
 
They are in a tizzy with mine. Mom passed at age 40 and Dad passed at 92. All siblings over 50 and alive. You would think they would reason Mom was the outliner as she did die of cancer with a 3 pack a day habit most of her short life.
I'd think given these facts, that you are set for a long life. I hope that turns out to be true. Men in my family rarely see 70. Just how the cards were dealt.
 
Agree but genetics also play a huge role. Some people eat horribly and don't get heart disease. Others exercise and eat right and die suddenly from a heart attack. Life insurance companies are very interested in the longevity of your parents and siblings.
Yes, for those with poor genetics, we can do everything possible with diet, exercise, and if necessary and inclined, pharmaceuticals to beat the clock. There are enough screening tools available to avoid the major causes of death: (1)heart disease- regular checkups, bloodwork (especially testing for apoB (not just a standard cholesterol test), and getting one or both a a carotid intima-media thickness test (CIMT) and coronary artery calcium scan to check for buildup of plaque (former) and calcified plaque in the walls of arteries; (2) Cancer is a tougher one, but lung cancer is a leading killer (don't smoke or quit) and the second largest one is colorectal cancer (go for regular screenings). Those top 2 are 24.2% and 22.5% of deaths. After than, the causes of death are single digits with next being unintentional injuries (7.4%), which can be prevented by wearing a hockey uniform everywhere you go, and then the causes of death get to 5.2% and below.

EDIT- sorry for the slight thread derail, but what is the point of retirement planning, if you are not going to enjoy your retirement. A lot of things can happen, we are doing a lot now with diet and exercise and regular screenings (CAC, colonoscopies every 5 years, blood work), diet and exercise so that we can continue to enjoy mountain biking and hiking well into our later years--just hoping I did not invoke the Board jinx here. 🥶 Sometimes bad stuff just happens despite our best efforts. If it does, we did our best and tried.
 
Agree but genetics also play a huge role. Some people eat horribly and don't get heart disease. Others exercise and eat right and die suddenly from a heart attack. Life insurance companies are very interested in the longevity of your parents and siblings.
My parents smoked 5 packs of cigarettes a day between them.

They both quit years ago.

Both turn 89 this year. Mom is completely sedentary but her mind is in the top 1 percent of people her age according to her doctors

Dad walks at least 5 miles a day but can’t hear a thing

That is one reason I continue to work
 
Always have a flood policy in place. Always. You'll likely find best success by bundling all of your insurance policies via a single company and then leverage that bundle to get your federal flood policy written by that company.

Take a look at NC on a map. Note the shape of the coastline. It was shaped by the elements. Now it looks like a super-exposed shelf. Regardless of where your home is on the islands (and inland for miles), flood insurance is essential. Especially so if your property is financed.

I had a home on Topsail Island for a decade. Five major storms in that period. My home was new and designed for it. Fran devastated the island. My home had minimal damage. Then the dynamic was "how do you enjoy your place when all around you is torn apart"? I still remember the post-storm visit. Not a fun memory.
 
Yes, for those with poor genetics, we can do everything possible with diet, exercise, and if necessary and inclined, pharmaceuticals to beat the clock. There are enough screening tools available to avoid the major causes of death: (1)heart disease- regular checkups, bloodwork (especially testing for apoB (not just a standard cholesterol test), and getting one or both a a carotid intima-media thickness test (CIMT) and coronary artery calcium scan to check for buildup of plaque (former) and calcified plaque in the walls of arteries; (2) Cancer is a tougher one, but lung cancer is a leading killer (don't smoke or quit) and the second largest one is colorectal cancer (go for regular screenings). Those top 2 are 24.2% and 22.5% of deaths. After than, the causes of death are single digits with next being unintentional injuries (7.4%), which can be prevented by wearing a hockey uniform everywhere you go, and then the causes of death get to 5.2% and below.

EDIT- sorry for the slight thread derail, but what is the point of retirement planning, if you are not going to enjoy your retirement. A lot of things can happen, we are doing a lot now with diet and exercise and regular screenings (CAC, colonoscopies every 5 years, blood work), diet and exercise so that we can continue to enjoy mountain biking and hiking well into our later years--just hoping I did not invoke the Board jinx here. 🥶 Sometimes bad stuff just happens despite our best efforts. If it does, we did our best and tried.
Yeah, people can do all that stuff. Or they can relax and enjoy the H&B lifestyle.

It's a choice and everybody needs to make it.
 
My parents smoked 5 packs of cigarettes a day between them.

They both quit years ago.

Both turn 89 this year. Mom is completely sedentary but her mind is in the top 1 percent of people her age according to her doctors

Dad walks at least 5 miles a day but can’t hear a thing

That is one reason I continue to work
Somehow, @tom1944 you quoted @patk89 but it was attributed to me.

Which is kind of funny since we have the same initials and similar (but not exact 😉) graduation years…had so much fun I didn’t want to leave.😝

My Dad lived to 92, this NYE. After he had his eyes done (cataracts?) he was 20/20, pretty sharp mentally but couldn’t really hear too good, even with hearing aids. My Mom is still here and just turned 89 last month…we’ll go for a walk in a few. She smoked into her 30’s until he told her to stop.

My Dad’s sister is 90 but looks to be in her late 60’s or 70’s. The funeral director couldn’t believe my Dad was 92. He looked pretty good too.

My Mother’s dad lived with us growing up and he lived to 89.

So hopefully I got that going for me. 🤞
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Knight Shift
A house in Stone Harbor being built collapsed from the wind recently
 
Yes, for those with poor genetics, we can do everything possible with diet, exercise, and if necessary and inclined, pharmaceuticals to beat the clock. There are enough screening tools available to avoid the major causes of death: (1)heart disease- regular checkups, bloodwork (especially testing for apoB (not just a standard cholesterol test), and getting one or both a a carotid intima-media thickness test (CIMT) and coronary artery calcium scan to check for buildup of plaque (former) and calcified plaque in the walls of arteries; (2) Cancer is a tougher one, but lung cancer is a leading killer (don't smoke or quit) and the second largest one is colorectal cancer (go for regular screenings). Those top 2 are 24.2% and 22.5% of deaths. After than, the causes of death are single digits with next being unintentional injuries (7.4%), which can be prevented by wearing a hockey uniform everywhere you go, and then the causes of death get to 5.2% and below.

EDIT- sorry for the slight thread derail, but what is the point of retirement planning, if you are not going to enjoy your retirement. A lot of things can happen, we are doing a lot now with diet and exercise and regular screenings (CAC, colonoscopies every 5 years, blood work), diet and exercise so that we can continue to enjoy mountain biking and hiking well into our later years--just hoping I did not invoke the Board jinx here. 🥶 Sometimes bad stuff just happens despite our best efforts. If it does, we did our best and tried.
"Age is just a number. Go Betty!! 73 years old and still shredding British Columbia's North Shore.


 
  • Like
Reactions: fsg2 and newell138
"Age is just a number. Go Betty!! 73 years old and still shredding British Columbia's North Shore.



Didn't remember that particular story but sounded very familiar.

Gear Junkie's been on that wavelength lately ...this was the one I was thinking of, 96 years old, 96 days of skiing this winter:

 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT