Psu should have got the death penalty like smu
OT: Sandusky Story Gets Worse
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What the 1976 event does is change the previous Paterno defense of "following chain of command." Paterno as the defenders would like to believe was just a coach that reported the event to his "higher-ups," AD, President head of campus police etc... In 1980 something happened that would change the chain of command and leave Paterno culpable within the chain of command. He became the AD. He was not just his boss as the head coach but also the head of the entire athletic department. Leaving Paterno responsible to make the very decision he shirked earlier.
Why would PSU start this lawsuit, knowing that this crap could come out? No way they'll get their 60MM. Was it worth it?
The excuse that he was too old and out of it during this also goes right out the window as well.
Insurance companies don't care about things like protecting a football coach's image or postseason games. They care about who has to pay. They are very good at uncovering every detail to determine liability.
When the Spanier and Curley cases go to trial, you will see more details come out. At this point, those guys just want to reveal every detail in hopes of minimizing their jail time.
Politi wrote a "story" about the Penn Live story:
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...ild-abuse_incident_in.html#incart_river_index
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...ild-abuse_incident_in.html#incart_river_index
This is definitely true, but to be fair, they're also known to do anything possible to avoid payment. Aside from this example, which involves a horrific pedophile, I can't think of any other situation where an Insurance Company was viewed as the moral good guys..
Maybe this will help turn the cult in a new direction:
"Joe Paterno knew about it and did nothing? That's disgusting. WE ARE PENN STATE. We would have won with anybody at the helm!"
"Joe Paterno knew about it and did nothing? That's disgusting. WE ARE PENN STATE. We would have won with anybody at the helm!"
Yup. Especially health insurance companies. The stress they inflicted on me in my time of need, after approving surgery at MSKCC, and then withdrawing the approval 10 days before the scheduled surgery, was more painful than my initial diagnosis and dealing with what was an initially scary situation. They lied, denied, connived and did everything possible to worm out of their original commitment. Scumbags.
I haven't read the details, but if Penn State can show that the university administration didn't know about the previous abuse because Paterno kept it under wraps, couldn't they collect the insurance payments. Instead of one rogue employee (Sandusky) they had two rogue employees (Sandusky and Paterno) conspiring to commit criminal acts.
And from a 'protecting Paterno" perspective, does the Penn State administration really care (I'm talking about the actual people running the university, not crazy trustees like Lubrano), and do these revelations really matter. Paterno was fired in disgrace; he's dead; and the statue has been torn down. PSU fans will continue to worship Paterno and the rest of the world will think he's a creep. No amount of additional evidence or debate will make a marked change in those perceptions.
Not saying they are the moral good guys. I'm saying they are very good at investigating every detail to avoid liability, which is why you are seeing these details come out in the insurance litigation.
I said this to people privately last night.
Joe knew if a mosquito farted in the equipment room. He knew if they changed the brand of toilet paper in the chemistry building. He knew EVERYTHING on that campus. That campus, in its present state, doesn't even exist without Joe. For anyone, for one second, to suggest that Joe didn't know one of his longest serving, and most important assistants, was banging boys in the shower is about the most absurd position in the history of the human race.
Joe knew if a mosquito farted in the equipment room. He knew if they changed the brand of toilet paper in the chemistry building. He knew EVERYTHING on that campus. That campus, in its present state, doesn't even exist without Joe. For anyone, for one second, to suggest that Joe didn't know one of his longest serving, and most important assistants, was banging boys in the shower is about the most absurd position in the history of the human race.
Then Joe should burn in hell and PSU should have been given the death penalty.
This is the thing that makes the most sense to me. At some point, giving Paterno the benefit of the doubt, he hears about Sandusky and thinks that he can handle it in-house like he seemed to prefer when it came to other issues involving the football program. Whether malicious or just naïve, he realizes that is a mistake as additional Sandusky incidents start to come up. Now he has a dilemma...do you report Sandusky to the police and admit to not having done so in the past, or do you bury it and hope it stays hidden forever. He made the wrong choice and a lot of kids were abused because of it. As Randal says above: Paterno was no fan of Sandusky, yet he kept him around...seems awfully suspicious to me.
What about Paterno, based on what we now know, suggests he deserves any benefit?
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I'd like to think that he didn't support Sandusky's behavior and that negligence turned into ultimately covering for someone he didn't like.
To me...the scenario that makes the most sense is he gets wind of Sandusky, thinks he can handle it like he would handle a player getting in trouble, when he realizes that doesn't work and Sandusky is abusing more kids, he makes the wrong choice of covering up his past failure to report Sandusky, giving Sandusky the room to operate.
Certainly doesn't seem to be the case.
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Highly doubt they "knew". I doubt they ever witnessed it. I doubt there were ever told.
Like most people I know who were in Happy Valley in the 90s, I'm sure they heard rumors about Sandusky. That doesn't necessarily mean they knew, in my opinion.
No, the administration couldn't claim that, because Paterno was considered part of the administration.
That would be admitting they did not have institutional control of the program. While maintaining a sexual predator within the program is not a violation of the NCAA rules, that definitely is, and often justifies the harshest penalties the group applies.
Concurrent with this new Sandusky timeline, there is a massive priest molestation scandal being uncovered in the Altoona diocese. I'm sure some ambitious reporter or prosecutor will be able to connect the dots.
http://www.post-gazette.com/local/r...-of-some-accused-priests/stories/201605040186
Man, Central PA must be a hellish place to raise a little boy.
http://www.post-gazette.com/local/r...-of-some-accused-priests/stories/201605040186
Man, Central PA must be a hellish place to raise a little boy.
As someone that works in insurance law, there is no chance in hell that the 1976 thing went into a file without a substantial amount of evidence going in along with it.
If there is one thing insurance companies excel at, it is papering files to death, and hinging on every word that will let them pay less.
The fans of that school are sick in the head. The fact is for at least decade, now over three, he knew of abuse and told at the most one person and never followed up on it.
They should have gotten the death penalty. The fanbase has no shame. And if there is a hell Paterknow is rotting in it for certain.
And I hope more comes out, you can see every time this story gets national attention that most Americans associate that hellhole with child rape and the cult fans that don't care about it. Let them think what they want the rest of the world knows the truth.
If there is one thing insurance companies excel at, it is papering files to death, and hinging on every word that will let them pay less.
The fans of that school are sick in the head. The fact is for at least decade, now over three, he knew of abuse and told at the most one person and never followed up on it.
They should have gotten the death penalty. The fanbase has no shame. And if there is a hell Paterknow is rotting in it for certain.
And I hope more comes out, you can see every time this story gets national attention that most Americans associate that hellhole with child rape and the cult fans that don't care about it. Let them think what they want the rest of the world knows the truth.
Philly too. The Catholic Church's worst deeds were in that state. And Cosby at Temple.
That entire state is a shame on the rest of the Northeast. It really is Alabama with two wasteland cities on each side.
There is no way that both Anderson and Schiano, as close to all of this as they were, were not aware of Sandusky's actions, and the allegations of his deviant actions.
Just can't convince me otherwise. Same as any other full-time coach there while Sandusky was on staff. You don't think they knew and talked to each other?
At least at the Hershey Charity they only siphoned money meant for kids to themselves.
Philly Inquirer 5/3/16
AG wants to remove 3 leaders of Hershey Trust
Of course Second Mile, and it's board full of friends of JoePa did that also, plus the whole child rape thing.
I would respectfully ask that you not disparage Alabama in such a malicious manner.
I seriously don't think the current team should be punished with penalties.. just that the actual football program needs to be eliminated entirely. Phased out!
All of the raping continued to happen because the stupid group think of these people and the efforts put forth to protect a stupid football team. Thats what gets me so mad. I love rutgers football as much as anyone, but Im not allowing our state university, where our teens are supposed to mature into adults, become a place where we lower our moral standards to protect some sport, or anything else for that matter.
All of the raping continued to happen because the stupid group think of these people and the efforts put forth to protect a stupid football team. Thats what gets me so mad. I love rutgers football as much as anyone, but Im not allowing our state university, where our teens are supposed to mature into adults, become a place where we lower our moral standards to protect some sport, or anything else for that matter.
I wish I had the zombie children photo. I would caption it: Everyone is Jealous of Our Football Victories
So if so many coaches and people in the program were in the know for so many years.. why didnt anyone ever do anything about it? Not everyone who coached there had an allegiance to the place..
Because the place is a friggin cult, that's why.
No one wanted to be known as the one who broke the halo around Paterno's head and took down the program....so they kept their mouths shut and looked the other way.
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The same reason the bulk of the Penn State fan board won't even acknowledge anything happened yet. It's just easier sometimes to ignore whatever horrible stuff was happening or happened and just go on living your life in a shell.
