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You are aware this would bring about a limited (or worse) nuclear conflict and the likely economic or even physical destruction of large portions of the US, right?

This isn’t WW2 or the Korean War where conventional intervention will save our partners.
Thank you for your opinion. Enjoy the rest of your weekend!
 
I would think in the negotiation, that Ukraine might promise not to join NATO in the next 5 years however, continue to arm themselves during this period in case of further fighting.

This war created by Putin will stop in the future China from trying to take over Taiwan in a war. China sees the weapon or sanctions that are effective. China is more dependent upon EU and the US for their trade and wouldn’t want to upset the current situation. Sanctions works when it is uniformly applied by the free world.
I think China is also learning that you can't hide war and control the narrative with social media, smart phones, and streaming (which the citizens of Taiwan have access to just like Ukrainians). Russia and China like to conduct their business in the shadows. This is not possible any more with conflicts between nations.
 
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I think China is also learning that you can't hide war and control the narrative with social media, smart phones, and streaming (which the citizens of Taiwan have access to just like Ukrainians). Russia and China like to conduct their business in the shadows. This is not possible any more with conflicts between nations.
Ukraine should just live stream the mayhem 24/7…let the whole world tune in. You’d think the Ukrainian press would be posting video after video.
 
I’m not a geopolitics expert, but why would the US be at risk? If nukes are directed anywhere it would be the EU, especially France since they have nukes too. Can’t imagine Russia taking a shot at the US unless we are taking about the destruction of the world as we know it. At that point, forget the stock market talk on this thread…LOL?
NATO alliance: an attack on one member is an attack on all members.
 
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I kind of figured my optimistic view above was a little deep in naivety.

But let's see if it sticks, the market has shaken off early losses the past couple of trading days.
At least 50-50 chance that tomorrow ends up green. CLs love to dump in extended markets. LOL!
 

Let’s see how the market holds up but this is a bit crazy in terms of days(being a Monday) and current look of futures
 
You are aware this would bring about a limited (or worse) nuclear conflict and the likely economic or even physical destruction of large portions of the US, right?

This isn’t WW2 or the Korean War where conventional intervention will save our partners.
Not if Putin gets the boot.
 
Ukraine should just live stream the mayhem 24/7…let the whole world tune in. You’d think the Ukrainian press would be posting video after video.

Ukraine internet is pretty sketchy now. Musk opened Starlink to them but you need certain tech to access it.
One thing really kicking butt are the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drones (acquired 2019). Russian tanks and vehicles rolling down streets are just sitting ducks. A good bit of video released by Uke military comes from drone cameras. The drone can be far and high so you see soldiers getting hit with no idea they are targeted

EU said to be providing planes and weapons to Uke. EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said no Russian planes in EU air space (including commercial). US State Dept said Americans should leave Russia. People who have fought Russians say to be careful of the paramilitaries that can be brought it. That's when civilians get it




Map showing Russian progress
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I kind of figured my optimistic view above was a little deep in naivety.

But let's see if it sticks, the market has shaken off early losses the past couple of trading days.
Futures were negative Friday morning and I thought going long into the weekend would keep things negative or muted but you saw what happened. We were kind of short term oversold though. I’d say after the last two trading days we could be short term overbought. But who knows, the only thing you can be sure of is volatility remains.
 
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Ukraine internet is pretty sketchy now. Musk opened Starlink to them but you need certain tech to access it.
One thing really kicking butt are the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drones (acquired 2019). Russian tanks and vehicles rolling down streets are just sitting ducks. A good bit of video released by Uke military comes from drone cameras. The drone can be far and high so you see soldiers getting hit with no idea they are targeted

EU said to be providing planes and weapons to Uke. EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said no Russian planes in EU air space (including commercial). US State Dept said Americans should leave Russia. People who have fought Russians say to be careful of the paramilitaries that can be brought it. That's when civilians get it

Here's are links to Drone kills








Map showing Russian progress
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UKR is a damn big country! Putin can never hold it with 44 million people fighting. Doubt he has a clear endgame.
 
UKR is a damn big country! Putin can never hold it with 44 million people fighting. Doubt he has a clear endgame.
My drone vids post here.
There are a lot of them on reddit and they are legit
Street after street strewn with lines of burned out tanks
Of course nobody including Russians wants to show their damages but Russians def hit hard
One vid I just aw was funny because Ukrainians drove up on a Russian vehicle with no fuel, and the Ukrianians said they would help them if they drove back to Russia. Everybody laughed. You get the sense the Ukes and Russians weren't particularly hostile to each other before this.
 
My drone vids post here.
There are a lot of them on reddit and they are legit
Street after street strewn with lines of burned out tanks
Of course nobody including Russians wants to show their damages but Russians def hit hard
One vid I just aw was funny because Ukrainians drove up on a Russian vehicle with no fuel, and the Ukrianians said they would help them if they drove back to Russia. Everybody laughed. You get the sense the Ukes and Russians weren't particularly hostile to each other before this.
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I think you hit the nail on the head. Russians and URK'ers probably are not "enemies". Many Russian soldiers are there because that was their orders, not because of hatred or desire to attack them.
 
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Ukraine internet is pretty sketchy now. Musk opened Starlink to them but you need certain tech to access it.
One thing really kicking butt are the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drones (acquired 2019). Russian tanks and vehicles rolling down streets are just sitting ducks. A good bit of video released by Uke military comes from drone cameras. The drone can be far and high so you see soldiers getting hit with no idea they are targeted

EU said to be providing planes and weapons to Uke. EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said no Russian planes in EU air space (including commercial). US State Dept said Americans should leave Russia. People who have fought Russians say to be careful of the paramilitaries that can be brought it. That's when civilians get it




Map showing Russian progress
N65J3Si.jpg


Thanks for posting since watching the news is a total waste of time. They barely cover the actual war.

Good list of issues in the financial markets due to the war:

 
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I think you hit the nail on the head. Russians and URK'ers probably are not "enemies". Many Russian soldiers are there because that was their orders, not because of hatred or desire to attack them.
It feels kinda like Gov Hoschul send NGs to train in NJ, and when they get there they are told to start shooting . "Then the guardsmen are like WTF is this about?"

Curiously, everybody is taught about how armies die in Russia because they cant keep supplies going. So how is it Russia runs out of fuel so easy. You can tell its been a massive problem for Russia

 
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Thanks for posting since watching the news is a total waste of time. They barely cover the actual war.

Good list of issues in the financial markets due to the war:

Thanks - I just saw video of hundreds of Russians on ATM lines in Moscow. Monday should be interesting there.

Places like reddit are better than TV. You have people from all over who know the language and the machinery.
In the drone vid I put up the guy making the video is cursing out the Russians . People translated it like this

"He is commenting with disbelief how this is lying on his street, right beside his home.
That these (swear words) came here - and for what? - and this is what has happened to them.
Told them all to burn in hell.
Said he will never forgive this in his entire life.
Continues to explain this is what became of all of them, only parts and equipment left, a hat.
At the end he thanked the Ukrainian soldiers, and they told him not to film it."

Apparently the strike was on the Chechens heading to Kiev to get the president. Somewhere around 100 were killed. Some of the bodies already made it back home. Military guys saying that without air dominance these convoys rolling down the street are sitting ducks

The vehicles have a big "V" painted on them to designate they were from eastern military district
These are the guys that got hit

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Ukraine getting 5000 antitank weapons (single use and unguided) from Sweden
That sounds huge and experts say it is.
If Russians are out of gas and getting lost driving now, It seems things will get worse when the weapons pile in
Alas recall Russia as small tactical nukes for any desperate circumstances.



Three mile long Russian convoys headed in

 
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Long twitter thread - senior markets reporter at Bloomberg - Russia bond markets troubled, BP taking 25 billion hit, SWIFT troubles, nuke sites take damage..

 
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The way the world united on this leads me to the opinion that the lesson of appeasement is burned in our collective memories.

I also think the Ukrainian population has been taught the horrors of Stalin from the time of their birth.

I had a good friend of Ukrainian heritage who passed away a few years ago and we used to have very interesting discussions about his family history.
 
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Makes sense. Asian markets were up today. I hope nobody here has exposure to RSX (VanEck Russia ETF)! LOL.
Sure. I think there's maybe a little paradigm shift after this and there could be a sustained increase in defense spending across the west which obviously benefits the defense sector. Most probably thought, myself included, this couldn't happen in this day and age but we're seeing it happen. In that case, then I'd expect preparedness is important.
 
Sure. I think there's maybe a little paradigm shift after this and there could be a sustained increase in defense spending across the west which obviously benefits the defense sector. Most probably thought, myself included, this couldn't happen in this day and age but we're seeing it happen. In that case, then I'd expect preparedness is important.
Who supplies Germany with equipment? They just jacked up their military budget. Regardless of the conflict, good to see so many nations come together against Russia. I'm sure China is taking notes.
 
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Who supplies Germany with equipment? They just jacked up their military budget. Regardless of the conflict, good to see so many nations come together against Russia. I'm sure China is taking notes.
Here are China’s notes

 
Who supplies Germany with equipment? They just jacked up their military budget. Regardless of the conflict, good to see so many nations come together against Russia. I'm sure China is taking notes.
I don't know for sure but I'd guess the US, France, UK.
 
Here are China’s notes

Yeah, that practically happens weekly. Nice try CL. :)
 
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Here are China’s notes

Less than January, way less than October, maybe they are tapering off so that's good news...
 
Trying to figure out the companies.
One good thing that Putin did last week.....he outlawed shorting the Russian market. :)
Well I'd figure the usual names will benefit....LMT, RTX, NOC, GD. Maybe even Boeing. Airbus, BAE and Thales are other defense sector names in Europe.

There's an aerospace and defense ETF as well since you like those. XAR It's not up as much as some of the specific names though.
 
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It feels kinda like Gov Hoschul send NGs to train in NJ, and when they get there they are told to start shooting . "Then the guardsmen are like WTF is this about?"

Curiously, everybody is taught about how armies die in Russia because they cant keep supplies going. So how is it Russia runs out of fuel so easy. You can tell its been a massive problem for Russia

The way Russia is organized at a Corps or Army level is why they have so many problems. Russia reorg’d their army into Battalion Tactical Groups a number of years ago which are highly effective in low intensity conflict but are very vulnerable in large scale, high intensity operations.

The reason many people, myself included, didn’t think there would be a full invasion is because literally every single thing that has happened since zero hour has happened exactly as expected. Russia isn’t capable of effectively fighting this conflict and never was, and this will likely bring about the end of Russia as a semi-superpower. What becomes of their nuclear status is an unknown. Why Putin would voluntary sacrifice his entire country, a move that is tremendously out of character for him, is really beyond me. I understand his/their concern Ukraine’s nuclear ambitions, but they chose the worst possible way to rectify it.
 
The way Russia is organized at a Corps or Army level is why they have so many problems. Russia reorg’d their army into Battalion Tactical Groups a number of years ago which are highly effective in low intensity conflict but are very vulnerable in large scale, high intensity operations.

The reason many people, myself included, didn’t think there would be a full invasion is because literally every single thing that has happened since zero hour has happened exactly as expected. Russia isn’t capable of effectively fighting this conflict and never was, and this will likely bring about the end of Russia as a semi-superpower. What becomes of their nuclear status is an unknown. Why Putin would voluntary sacrifice his entire country, a move that is tremendously out of character for him, is really beyond me. I understand his/their concern Ukraine’s nuclear ambitions, but they chose the worst possible way to rectify it.
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He is really showing the world that the emperor has no clothes anymore (i.e., his military is meh).
 
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Don't lose sight of impending Fed rate hikes. Looking at 1% cumulative rate increase by June: .50+.25+.25 ??? Inflation here to stay for a good while. Economy to slow thru 1Q23. Fed to further raise rates at least another 1% in the interim. "Stagflation."
 
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