ADVERTISEMENT

OT: Stock and Investment Talk

If you held cash going into '22, bought into energy and commodities, and healthcare, your portfolio performed smartly relative to the overall bear market. Right now, Treasuries are very attractive and will likely remain so into '23. Optimization is the takeaway. Take what the market/economy offers. Fight the Fed at your own portfolio's peril.
he said diversified and well balanced unless you missed that.
 
Give me your phone number and l’ll text you my TDAmeritrade Chart
as I said, well balanced and diversified no but the posting listed are less than well balanced and of course, we don't know allocations

that said, I'd still be all in on energy till early Dec of last year
 
well like I said, need to see unemployment numbers tick up, which I believe we will see, before the Fed relents.

Again, all they simply need to do is change the requirements for reserves on revolving credit and spending stops.
 
Sounds like the Fed is just trying to be dick now and crash the economy even as inflation is plummeting. Look for the WH to intervene.
But the economy keeps trucking.

I think the Fed is wary of inflation rebounding if they let off.

Also think they are talking a tougher game then what they may actually implement.
 
A well balanced and diversified portfolio can help you avoid catastrophic losses but placing greater emphasis in certain sectors can let you outperform the overall market. Being overweight in energy in 2022 was a great example of this. I am staying mostly in a defensive posture until I see signs that the market has turned the corner. I am fine missing the first 1 or 2% of a rebound. In the meantime, I'll park dollars in a three month treasury earning 4.7% and avoid paying state income tax on the interest.
 
Steve Lieshman just quoted a survey that said 79% of tech workers who have been laid off have found work elsewhere, 36% found work within a month.

Even with layoffs in big tech the job market remains tight.
 
A well balanced and diversified portfolio can help you avoid catastrophic losses but placing greater emphasis in certain sectors can let you outperform the overall market. Being overweight in energy in 2022 was a great example of this. I am staying mostly in a defensive posture until I see signs that the market has turned the corner. I am fine missing the first 1 or 2% of a rebound. In the meantime, I'll park dollars in a three month treasury earning 4.7% and avoid paying state income tax on the interest.
I imagine if your defensive you'll miss more then 1-2% of the rebound.
 
  • Like
Reactions: T2Kplus20
But the economy keeps trucking.

I think the Fed is wary of inflation rebounding if they let off.

Also think they are talking a tougher game then what they may actually implement.
That would mean holding rates at current levels. They don't have to start cutting until inflation is in the 3s, but raising rates more now is asinine. Seems like they just want to hurt people and jack up unemployment.
 
good job and loving me some xom. I was on that bandwagon in the 30s and telling all here last year that energy was the way to go. You are energy heavy so not really balanced but I moved to 80% energy close to oil lows so I've no perch to bellow from:)
Oil is pretty low now. Thoughts on the next 6 months? Time to use DIG for an energy play? :)
 
I imagine if your defensive you'll miss more then 1-2% of the rebound.
Many bears/defensive investors will miss at least 10-20% of the rebound rally by incorrectly assuming it is another bear market rally. Remember, the market will bottom and call the pivot well before the Fed announces it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: RU-05
So you expect energy to go on a run?
Honestly, I don't know, but a lot of folks that I trust are saying so. Tom Lee is still very bullish on energy and rightly pointed out that even as oil prices dropped, most energy stocks held up pretty well. That may bode well for the future. I have been playing with the China reopening and doing nicely so far! This will increase oil demand.
 
Honestly, I don't know, but a lot of folks that I trust are saying so. Tom Lee is still very bullish on energy and rightly pointed out that even as oil prices dropped, most energy stocks held up pretty well. That may bode well for the future. I have been playing with the China reopening and doing nicely so far! This will increase oil demand.
But if energy is poised to go on a run, what would that do to inflation?

I'm sure that is part of the Fed's reasoning, and they know if they take their foot off the pedal, commodities rip.
 
  • Like
Reactions: T2Kplus20
But if energy is poised to go on a run, what would that do to inflation?

I'm sure that is part of the Fed's reasoning, and they know if they take their foot off the pedal, commodities rip.
I know! It's kind of like bad karma.....rooting for inflation coming down and then playing energy long. I guess it can be considered a hedge? Regardless, I am focusing on other areas right now, so I will likely pass (for now).

As a follow-up to my earlier post. Just picked up a new iPhone 14 Pro. Wow, Apple is awesome.
 
I imagine if your defensive you'll miss more then 1-2% of the rebound.
I am willing to miss that 1 or 2% of a rebound but there's a better chance I'll avoid another -20% drop if that happens. I am not a bear but rather just patiently waiting until I see some indications that the economy has bottomed. The market won't make up its entire rebound in one day. I'm still 50% invested and generating cash though covered calls.
 
I am willing to miss that 1 or 2% of a rebound but there's a better chance I'll avoid another -20% drop if that happens. I am not a bear but rather just patiently waiting until I see some indications that the economy has bottomed. The market won't make up its entire rebound in one day. I'm still 50% invested and generating cash though covered calls.
Only a 1-2% miss is unrealistic. You can miss out on 3-4x times that in premarket morning trading with a good CPI report.
 
  • Like
Reactions: RU-05
We have had about 15 of those bull days over the past year. Which one will be the right one? Hmmm.....

Sorry, not buying it.
No doubt that there's been a lot of head fakes, even with optimistic CPI reports. The market is still -5% from its highs in just December. Until I see concrete evidence of a shift from the FED, I'm good sitting on the sidelines earning nearly 5% in Treasuries and generating cash from covered call.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Goo and RU-05
I was talking to a friend of mine, a brilliant mind, multiple degrees in economics, finance, business. I wanted to understand why all these talking heads, who understand business and economics, university economists, etc, are contradicting the Fed's opinion on the economy and inflation. Why doesn't the Fed think the same way? His reply enlightened me.
He said the Fed's words are just as important, if not more important, than the action the Fed takes. For instance, if the Fed raises rates by 50 basis points and then signals in their words that they won't raise rates any further and inflation is under control, it would negate whatever action they took on rates and mute the effects. Companies take action on the Fed's words as much as the rate movement, deciding whether to hire or layoff, increase or decrease capital spending, etc.
I never considered that. Something to think about though.
 
  • Like
Reactions: T2Kplus20
I was talking to a friend of mine, a brilliant mind, multiple degrees in economics, finance, business. I wanted to understand why all these talking heads, who understand business and economics, university economists, etc, are contradicting the Fed's opinion on the economy and inflation. Why doesn't the Fed think the same way? His reply enlightened me.
He said the Fed's words are just as important, if not more important, than the action the Fed takes. For instance, if the Fed raises rates by 50 basis points and then signals in their words that they won't raise rates any further and inflation is under control, it would negate whatever action they took on rates and mute the effects. Companies take action on the Fed's words as much as the rate movement, deciding whether to hire or layoff, increase or decrease capital spending, etc.
I never considered that. Something to think about though.
Completely agreed. The Fed is trying to jawbone the market and economy. However, you can only talk tough so long before people get wise to it. That's why the bond market is giving the Fed a huge middle finger. We all see the inflation data and where it is heading via leading indicators. They can talk tough all they want, but high inflation is over and has been for at least 3 months.
 
Because it is fun. :)

How are you trading stocks in a 401k? Or am I misreading your posts. Gotta run to a Verizon store and feed the Apple iPhone beast. My personal cell phone of 7 years finally died! Need a replacement.

401k trading is through my PCRA (Personal Choice Retirement Account) administered by Schwab.
 
I was talking to a friend of mine, a brilliant mind, multiple degrees in economics, finance, business. I wanted to understand why all these talking heads, who understand business and economics, university economists, etc, are contradicting the Fed's opinion on the economy and inflation. Why doesn't the Fed think the same way? His reply enlightened me.
He said the Fed's words are just as important, if not more important, than the action the Fed takes. For instance, if the Fed raises rates by 50 basis points and then signals in their words that they won't raise rates any further and inflation is under control, it would negate whatever action they took on rates and mute the effects. Companies take action on the Fed's words as much as the rate movement, deciding whether to hire or layoff, increase or decrease capital spending, etc.
I never considered that. Something to think about though.
Ya and thats why we heard “not even thinking about thinking about raising rates” a couple years ago.

As i say above I think they are talking tougher then they truly expect they will have to be.
 
as I said, well balanced and diversified no but the posting listed are less than well balanced and of course, we don't know allocations

that said, I'd still be all in on energy till early Dec of last year


I didn’t say well balanced and diversified…. I said I “have a good balance of solid companies.” I have over 50 stocks (as I mentioned) and have good representation in each sector, except for spec tech and I have a lower weighting in the “FANG” stocks compared to the S&P weighting. So, maybe a little energy heavy during the first 9 months, but for good reason.
 
401k trading is through my PCRA (Personal Choice Retirement Account) administered by Schwab.
Nice! I tried to talk my company into that since we were planning to change 401k admins. However, we moved to Fidelity since our equity plan was already with them. Good for me. I already had a rollover IRA and fun/brokerage account with them, so more account consolidation.
 
Just a reminder, if we use real-time housing data, not the CPI lagging garbage, both CPI Core and PCE Core inflation has been NEGATIVE for the past quarter.

Deflation in the housing market for 4 months in a row and counting:

FlFIvFmWQAES3Mm
 
Nice! I tried to talk my company into that since we were planning to change 401k admins. However, we moved to Fidelity since our equity plan was already with them. Good for me. I already had a rollover IRA and fun/brokerage account with them, so more account consolidation.
Fidelity has the same feature through Brokeragelink.
 
  • Like
Reactions: T2Kplus20
Does the FED still raise 25 or 50 BPS on February 1?
0 BPS is the right move. Be patient and wait until the March meeting. We will get 3 more months of inflation data.

But probably 25 BPS because the Fed is stupid.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: RU-Hunter
Does the FED still raise 25 or 50 BPS on February 1?
I definitely think they will raise it.

I'm not in the T2K camp of thinking that they need to pivot now in order to avoid killing the economy. Not with the economy continuing to show strength.

But I think the need to rush to raise rates is now behind us.

I'd like to see .25
 
I definitely think they will raise it.

I'm not in the T2K camp of thinking that they need to pivot now in order to avoid killing the economy. Not with the economy continuing to show strength.

But I think the need to rush to raise rates is now behind us.

I'd like to see .25
I agree agree that 25 BPS is likely. At least it’s trending downward.
 
I agree agree that 25 BPS is likely. At least it’s trending downward.
But the terminal rate is still in the range of 5.5% and it'll be kept there into '24. So whether it's via a series of 25 bps or a combo of 25 bps and 50 bps moves is irrelevant. They'll get there and hold. Ignore the Fed's plan at your portfolio's peril.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT