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you and many really have no idea just how bad they are.
I'm listening. Let me know if I need to get a job at Walmart or start delivering pizzas. That's the question I keep asking my broker and he laughs. I don't think he realizes it's a serious question.
 
Nicely on track to exceed 2023 forecast of 1.8m EVs delivered. Well done TSLA!


Here are the key numbers from the electric vehicle maker:

Total deliveries Q1 2023: 422,875
Total production Q1 2023: 440,808

Deliveries are the closest approximation of sales disclosed by Tesla and are not broken out by individual model or region.

The first quarter numbers represent a 36% increase in deliveries compared to the 310,048 reported during the same period a year earlier, and 4% growth in deliveries sequentially compared to the 405,278 they company reported in the last quarter of 2022.
It maybe bad news in the short term particularly if the earnings report show margin compression. However in the long term, it is good news particularly if TSLA can figure out a better way to monetize each car on the road.
 
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Any one know any news about UNH is up $15 this morning? Sold some of my shares but expect to buy more later at a lower price. Stock was close to 52 week low.
 
Any one know any news about UNH is up $15 this morning? Sold some of my shares but expect to buy more later at a lower price. Stock was close to 52 week low.
Not sure, but that is about 3-3.5%. Perhaps an analyst upgrade? Don't see any significant news this morning on UNH (yet).
 
On one of best fund managers of the last 10-15 years. His fund is the only one I own with bonds/fixed income as a significant portion of it (about 1/3). It's closed unless you have a T Rowe account, but it's worth finding a way to get into it:

Do you have any thoughts on CNC?
 
Do you have any thoughts on CNC?
CNC has a very interesting business, focused on government programs (like Medicaid). This puts pressure on margins since they are dependent on government reimbursement rates, but on the positive, it is an established and growing segment of HC. Strong track record with nice forecasted earnings thru 2024. CNC is undervalued due to the recent HC dip. Can't go wrong with UNH or CNC (which essentially bookend the insurance space.....commercial and government).

CNC is a top-20 holding in my PRHSX at 1.7%.

From Morningstar:

Centene's Narrow Moat Intact Despite Recent Contract Uncertainty

Business Strategy and Outlook | Updated Dec 23, 2022
Centene aims to be the top provider of government-sponsored health plans. Although it has grown at a solid clip organically, the company also has made significant acquisitions—most notably WellCare—to meet that goal. Technology investments to boost efficiency have helped Centene prosper in this relatively low-margin managed-care sector, as well.

Centene leads the Medicaid managed-care business; those plans account for about two thirds of its medical membership. The Medicaid program is jointly funded by federal and state governments and primarily serves low-income individuals of any age and people with disabilities. The Affordable Care Act expanded the Medicaid population starting in 2014, and we think this program may be used in the future to expand insured rates further.

Centene boasts the leading franchise, Ambetter, on the individual exchanges. With its technology investments and scale-related advantages in local markets, Centene aims to remain the low-cost leader in this market. This business accounts for about 10% of Centene's medical membership and enjoys higher profit margin prospects than its other businesses. Also, demand for Centene's exchange-related plans could rise, as enhanced tax credits increase affordability on the exchanges and free plans may be offered to eligible Medicaid recipients in nonexpansion states.

Through the acquisition of WellCare in early 2020, Centene added to its Medicare-related capabilities, particularly in the fast-growing Medicare Advantage program. With positive demographic trends and increasing popularity relative to traditional Medicare plans, we see the Medicare Advantage program as one of the most attractive growth opportunities in health insurance in the long run. This opportunity largely explains the appeal of the WellCare deal, although WellCare also added to Centene's Medicaid footprint, too.

Fair Value and Profit Drivers | Updated Jan 03, 2023
We are maintaining our $87 fair value estimate, which implies a 14 times price/earnings multiple on 2023 expected earnings.

After a strong year on the top line but weak year on the bottom line in 2021, we expect those trends to largely reverse. Management is shooting for mid-single-digit revenue and midteens earnings per share growth from 2021 to 2024. While we see headwinds that make that goal look aggressive, especially in 2024, we project low-single-digit annualized revenue growth and 11% adjusted earnings growth annually through 2026.

By major segment, after a strong 2021 in Medicaid, we expect a mild contraction in revenue, as redeterminations may push some members off the rolls and employer-based medical plans recover following the pandemic, and as we incorporate potential market share losses of some of Centene's existing Medicaid contracts that recently have been awarded to other plans (particularly some important California counties). In Centene's smaller Medicare business, we expect midteens annualized revenue growth primarily as demographic trends and the increasing popularity of Medicare Advantage plans benefit that business. We expect mid-single-digit annualized growth from the company's commercial business during the next five years, primarily on continued expansion of the individual exchange business, which may pick up the slack for Medicaid after redeterminations begin again.

We expect adjusted net margin improvement that is slightly less than management's goal of 60-70 basis points of expansion from 2021 to 2024, given the recently announced Tricare West contract loss. However, we see significant margin improvement opportunities along with substantial share repurchase activities that could boost adjusted EPS growth, as well. In total, we expect 11% adjusted EPS growth compounded annually through 2026. We expect free cash flows to exceed $4.5 billion by 2026, up from $3.3 billion in 2021.
 
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CNC has a very interesting business, focused on government programs (like Medicaid). This puts pressure on margins since they are dependent on government reimbursement rates, but on the positive, it is an established and growing segment of HC. Strong track record with nice forecasted earnings thru 2024. CNC is undervalued due to the recent HC dip. Can't go wrong with UNH or CNC (which essentially bookend the insurance space.....commercial and government).

CNC is a top-20 holding in my PRHSX at 1.7%.

From Morningstar:

Centene's Narrow Moat Intact Despite Recent Contract Uncertainty

Business Strategy and Outlook | Updated Dec 23, 2022
Centene aims to be the top provider of government-sponsored health plans. Although it has grown at a solid clip organically, the company also has made significant acquisitions—most notably WellCare—to meet that goal. Technology investments to boost efficiency have helped Centene prosper in this relatively low-margin managed-care sector, as well.

Centene leads the Medicaid managed-care business; those plans account for about two thirds of its medical membership. The Medicaid program is jointly funded by federal and state governments and primarily serves low-income individuals of any age and people with disabilities. The Affordable Care Act expanded the Medicaid population starting in 2014, and we think this program may be used in the future to expand insured rates further.

Centene boasts the leading franchise, Ambetter, on the individual exchanges. With its technology investments and scale-related advantages in local markets, Centene aims to remain the low-cost leader in this market. This business accounts for about 10% of Centene's medical membership and enjoys higher profit margin prospects than its other businesses. Also, demand for Centene's exchange-related plans could rise, as enhanced tax credits increase affordability on the exchanges and free plans may be offered to eligible Medicaid recipients in nonexpansion states.

Through the acquisition of WellCare in early 2020, Centene added to its Medicare-related capabilities, particularly in the fast-growing Medicare Advantage program. With positive demographic trends and increasing popularity relative to traditional Medicare plans, we see the Medicare Advantage program as one of the most attractive growth opportunities in health insurance in the long run. This opportunity largely explains the appeal of the WellCare deal, although WellCare also added to Centene's Medicaid footprint, too.

Fair Value and Profit Drivers | Updated Jan 03, 2023
We are maintaining our $87 fair value estimate, which implies a 14 times price/earnings multiple on 2023 expected earnings.

After a strong year on the top line but weak year on the bottom line in 2021, we expect those trends to largely reverse. Management is shooting for mid-single-digit revenue and midteens earnings per share growth from 2021 to 2024. While we see headwinds that make that goal look aggressive, especially in 2024, we project low-single-digit annualized revenue growth and 11% adjusted earnings growth annually through 2026.

By major segment, after a strong 2021 in Medicaid, we expect a mild contraction in revenue, as redeterminations may push some members off the rolls and employer-based medical plans recover following the pandemic, and as we incorporate potential market share losses of some of Centene's existing Medicaid contracts that recently have been awarded to other plans (particularly some important California counties). In Centene's smaller Medicare business, we expect midteens annualized revenue growth primarily as demographic trends and the increasing popularity of Medicare Advantage plans benefit that business. We expect mid-single-digit annualized growth from the company's commercial business during the next five years, primarily on continued expansion of the individual exchange business, which may pick up the slack for Medicaid after redeterminations begin again.

We expect adjusted net margin improvement that is slightly less than management's goal of 60-70 basis points of expansion from 2021 to 2024, given the recently announced Tricare West contract loss. However, we see significant margin improvement opportunities along with substantial share repurchase activities that could boost adjusted EPS growth, as well. In total, we expect 11% adjusted EPS growth compounded annually through 2026. We expect free cash flows to exceed $4.5 billion by 2026, up from $3.3 billion in 2021.
I have them circled as my healthcare portfolio pick; mainly on fundamentals.
 
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I brought 100 today. Most of the drugs stocks are going up also. I’m selling most of them in the next two weeks before the bank earning season starts.
Didn't buy anything today, but I have been bullish on HC and biotech for a while. I have significant positions of CURE at $86 and LABU at $4.4. I traded LABU a few times already and done okay (looking for a big win this time). Just gotta be patient.
 
Great chart. The Market says....."what bank crisis?":

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Q1 Recap:
 
Didn't buy anything today, but I have been bullish on HC and biotech for a while. I have significant positions of CURE at $86 and LABU at $4.4. I traded LABU a few times already and done okay (looking for a big win this time). Just gotta be patient.
You should really post your trades in real time to be taken seriously. Your claims of buying these highly volatile stocks at the absolute bottom is otherwise not believable.
 
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Didn't buy anything today, but I have been bullish on HC and biotech for a while. I have significant positions of CURE at $86 and LABU at $4.4. I traded LABU a few times already and done okay (looking for a big win this time). Just gotta be patient.
LABU. What is a "big win"? What's your "out" price or % here?

Looks like you bought it last on March 24. 5.14 at the moment in pre-market. So a 17% gain, at the moment.
 
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Expected folks to be much higher especially the penchant to play leveraged ETF's by traders on this forum.
I don’t play leveraged ETF. Been chasing yield with duration. Haven’t added to equities outside of the 401k stuff. I’m happy with 9% in Q1 with a larger cash and fixed income allocation.
 
That is gutsy. Are you hoping that it gets bought out. I am out of that name after taking a loss.
I took a big rip in it last month.

I think that it has stabilized. I have a tight stop loss so I’m essentially risking $1500 v a hopeful $5000 on a bounce back.

At this point, it doesn’t looked like a distressed sale buyout.
 
LABU. What is a "big win"? What's your "out" price or % here?

Looks like you bought it last on March 24. 5.14 at the moment in pre-market. So a 17% gain, at the moment.
Yup, looking at my Fidelity account now, bought on 3/24 at $4.38 - says it's up 15.98% based on yesterday's close. I did this while on vacation in WDW! Dedication. :)

As for out price, LABU is the 3x of XBI which is now $77. It peaked at $175 during COVID. Maintained a range around $130 for a while before dumping to today's range. Once the market gets moving, especially small caps, you can see XBI easily getting back to $100 and maybe a bit higher. This would be a good time to consider ending the trade.
 
Expected folks to be much higher especially the penchant to play leveraged ETF's by traders on this forum.
Not when you are only playing with a small portion of your portfolio. I thought nearly doubling the return of the S&P 500 was pretty darn good! :)

Since you like hearing about leveraged ETFs, my long hold TQQQ position is still in play. Bought first in May at $30. Bought down in June and bought very heavy in Oct at $17. Current CB is little north of $20. I would love to add to this since I'm a big believer in QQQ, but have been maintaining CB discipline. Was waiting for it a get into the $15 range, but it never did.
 
Taking some profit on my PG and BDX but still expecting increasing till their earnings. Just buy these quality stocks when they come close to their 52 week low and wait for them to rise, normally during earning season.
 
Not when you are only playing with a small portion of your portfolio. I thought nearly doubling the return of the S&P 500 was pretty darn good! :)

Since you like hearing about leveraged ETFs, my long hold TQQQ position is still in play. Bought first in May at $30. Bought down in June and bought very heavy in Oct at $17. Current CB is little north of $20. I would love to add to this since I'm a big believer in QQQ, but have been maintaining CB discipline. Was waiting for it a get into the $15 range, but it never did.
Nice of you to post your trade, but still posting “after the fact”. I am still waiting on real-time posts. Anyone can look backwards at the chart and find buying points.
 
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Will Jesus push MSFT to 300 by Easter? AI GPT is now truly omniscient (almost).
I’m not waiting been slowly selling DCA as it creeps higher. I have a smaller quantity like all the FANG but after earning will just buy them back, everything a trade at this point. In the positive for MSFT, AMZN, APPL, META but still waiting for GOOG to go higher.

I just don’t see MSFT breaking 300 so soon. It already went up 40 points 246 to 286 (16%) since March 1,2023.
 
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Nice of you to post your trade, but still posting “after the fact”. I am still waiting on real-time posts. Anyone can look backwards at the chart and find buying points.
Sorry, don't have the time to post all trades in real time. I assume you don't either. Right? Just can do the best I can.
 
Sorry, don't have the time to post all trades in real time. I assume you don't either. Right? Just can do the best I can.
For someone who posts 24-7 on this forum, I am surprised you don't have time to post your trades. But I digress. I don't expect you to be honest with your trades and I don't particularly care when you post your trades, but I don't appreciate the name calling. You call folks on this forum all sorts of names (chicken little, bears etc). For someone who isn't a good trader, that is not acceptable behavior.
 
For someone who posts 24-7 on this forum, I am surprised you don't have time to post your trades. But I digress. I don't expect you to be honest with your trades and I don't particularly care when you post your trades, but I don't appreciate the name calling. You call folks on this forum all sorts of names (chicken little, bears etc). For someone who isn't a good trader, that is not acceptable behavior.
^^^^^ Sounds like a sensitive chicken little. LOL!

Sorry if being called a bear or CL is scarring. Haven't called anyone CL in a long time, so I guess it did bother you. My apologies.
 
For someone who posts 24-7 on this forum, I am surprised you don't have time to post your trades. But I digress. I don't expect you to be honest with your trades and I don't particularly care when you post your trades, but I don't appreciate the name calling. You call folks on this forum all sorts of names (chicken little, bears etc). For someone who isn't a good trader, that is not acceptable behavior.
For 3-4 years, he was abusing people especially me since he only thought you can make money by buying and holding mutual funds and ETF. Any time anyone traded, he would call them names. Now that he’s a little more educated, he’s been trading stocks and using 3x ETF. Everybody situation isn’t the same, I have been retired for 13 years and don’t have more cash income coming in every month to claim I’m buying this week. I have to selling stocks to buy other stocks to maximize my profit. I think as he progress and his assets continue to grow, a higher % of his assets will be used for trading and not only buy and hold.
 
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For 3-4 years, he was abusing people especially me since he only thought you can make money by buying and holding mutual funds and ETF. Any time anyone traded, he would call them names. Now that he’s a little more educated, he’s been trading stocks and using 3x ETF. Everybody situation isn’t the same, I have been retired for 13 years and don’t have more cash income coming in every month to claim I’m buying this week. I have to selling stocks to buy other stocks to maximize my profit. I think as he progress and his assets continue to grow, a higher % of his assets will be used for trading and not only buy and hold.
The creation of my fun account has broadened my horizons, but our 2 largest accounts remain buy/hold and where most of our new money lands (minus normal allocation adjustments). Beyond my fun account, I have started to use our Fidelity Rollover IRA account (3rd largest) for some longer term moves. This is where I converted VB to UWM and hold my CURE and LABU plays. Obviously, this is nice for tax purposes.

Stopped playing with individual stocks once I learned about leveraged ETFs. That is much more my style.
 
For 3-4 years, he was abusing people especially me since he only thought you can make money by buying and holding mutual funds and ETF. Any time anyone traded, he would call them names. Now that he’s a little more educated, he’s been trading stocks and using 3x ETF. Everybody situation isn’t the same, I have been retired for 13 years and don’t have more cash income coming in every month to claim I’m buying this week. I have to selling stocks to buy other stocks to maximize my profit. I think as he progress and his assets continue to grow, a higher % of his assets will be used for trading and not only buy and hold.
Probably best to ignore most of what he says. It is mostly all made up nonsense with very little understanding of the market. For guys like him, the best thing that can happen to them is buy and hold.
 
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I took a big rip in it last month.

I think that it has stabilized. I have a tight stop loss so I’m essentially risking $1500 v a hopeful $5000 on a bounce back.

At this point, it doesn’t looked like a distressed sale buyout.
Why not just play with options?
 
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