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You honestly believe that those were the words of god ?
That's not what he said to me.

Israeli lawmaker threatens to bomb civilian buildings if US taxpayers funded precision weapons are not delivered.

What a disgusting leader


Ben Gvir is such a terrorist he was barred from serving in the Israeli Army- despite them having a draft (with exceptions for religious people, ofc, because "democracy") but yet now serves in the cabinet.

Don't forget the other cabinet minister who said Jews and Arabs should not give birth in the same hospital. Imagine a comment like that in our very much imperfect democracy. It would be condemned by 99% of people. In Israel it gets you a cabinet job.

It doesn't change Hamas being a disgusting terrorist group but it does call into question the motives of a government killing thousands of children while claiming it's some kind of pluralistic democracy.
 
Totally bro, children with their parents killed on the verge of starvation "want to fight"

Maybe just pretend a Palestinian child is a fetus in a raped teenager in Texas who will become infertile without an abortion, it could give you some humanity
Are there lots of children with dead parents wandering an area that hasn’t been bombed yet.
 
Biden: make sure you don’t kill civilians
Biden: we know you plan on going in but we are going to withhold shipment of smart bombs.

Everyone in Rafa was told to get out. If you are still there it’s because you want to fight

Israeli officials had told the people of Gaza that Rafah would be safe for them
Israel unilaterally declared the area a “humanitarian zone” early in the war which
made refuges from areas Israel was bombing feel Rafa a place they could be safe in because Israel designated it a safe haven for them.
Rafa became a place to flee to by the people of Gaza in areas that Isreal was bombing and killing the people in that war zone.
So the amount of people in Rafa now being forced to get out of town makes a quick exit hard to accomplish, especially when there's no place safe the refuges can go to

As for Biden, he understands civilians will suffer , but he also is warning Israel not to make killing non combatants part of their plan to destroy Hamas and expect America help them do that.
President Biden has proven time and time again he's willing to help Israel, but he refuses to help the current Israeli leadership to indiscriminately kill innocent women and children in their effort to destroy Hamas .
America will be sending weapons that Israel can defend itself, but not the type that is being used to indiscriminately kill innocent civilians in the hope some terrorists die as well
 
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"Never undersestimate Joey's ability to fvck something up". - Barry Obama Barack Soetoro


Most truthful thing he's ever said.
 
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"Never undersestimate Joey's ability to fvck something up". - Barry Obama Barack Soetoro


Most truthful thing he's ever said.
The quote in question was published by a credible news organization, but was said to have come from an anonymous source, only identified as a "Democrat," who claimed to have heard Obama make the remark..Making it more of a rumor being reported than a fact

So depending on one's point of view, could be true or just plain BS being spread for political reasons and only those that dislike the sitting President bringing it up while those in the know feel it's not worth discussing because denying what was said isn't worth the bother. when dealing with the type of small minder hateful people that spread misinformation like that
 
Israeli officials had told the people of Gaza that Rafah would be safe for them
Israel unilaterally declared the area a “humanitarian zone” early in the war which
made refuges from areas Israel was bombing feel Rafa a place they could be safe in because Israel designated it a safe haven for them.
Rafa became a place to flee to by the people of Gaza in areas that Isreal was bombing and killing the people in that war zone.
So the amount of people in Rafa now being forced to get out of town makes a quick exit hard to accomplish, especially when there's no place safe the refuges can go to

As for Biden, he understands civilians will suffer , but he also is warning Israel not to make killing non combatants part of their plan to destroy Hamas and expect America help them do that.
President Biden has proven time and time again he's willing to help Israel, but he refuses to help the current Israeli leadership to indiscriminately kill innocent women and children in their effort to destroy Hamas .
America will be sending weapons that Israel can defend itself, but not the type that is being used to indiscriminately kill innocent civilians in the hope some terrorists die as well
The only people “indiscriminately killing civilians” is Hamas.
 
The leaders of their air force need to be held accountable.
That should be easy. You guys claim the whole world is mad at them for the way they are handling this, so charge them with war crimes. Surely, if you can try to jail a former/future US President for record keeping you can find something on their Air Force. But what do you do when another country goes after our Air Force or Obama or Biden for all the civilians we’ve killed with our drones?
 
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Looks like some of the hate and fear crowd really don't care about antisemitism
If a Jewish person doesn't meet their bigoted standards. Why else would they go after Dr. Rachel Levine who was honored by The Anti-Defamation League with their Courage Award in 2020.

ADL Regional Director Shira Goodman spoke about the the award.
“We are doing a special virtual event and we wanted to recognize someone who really epitomizes courage and what it means to stand up against hate. And we thought Dr. Levine was the perfect person to honor this year,” she said.
You're like the people who scream racism anytime someone criticizes Kamala Harris.
 
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but midstate is kind of a novelty.
My wife and I moved to Cortland County after taking early retirement in '95. Certainly a big change in economics of the area in Jersey I left and central NY. But, the people are really a lot nicer.
Ithaca is the only weird area as far as I am concerned. Super liberals now experiencing some real problems with the culture they have created. Kind of like a small San Francisco.
Bumper sticker often seen, "Ithaca, 10 square miles surrounded by reality"
 
The leaders of their air force need to be held accountable.
^^^ This was sarcasm, genius.
Hamas doesn't have an air force.
There aren't many buildings left standing in Gaza as a result of the "surgical strikes" by the combatant that does have one.
 
^^^ This was sarcasm, genius.
Hamas doesn't have an air force.
There aren't many buildings left standing in Gaza as a result of the "surgical strikes" by the combatant that does have one.
Since you are insane and we were talking about yiur belief that Israel was at fault I assumed you meant Israel needed to be held accountable. As for Gaza, boo boo. Elect terrorists, support terrorists, and hide terrorists well you get what you get
 
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -U.S. President Joe Biden warned on Tuesday that the threat of antisemitism is growing in the United States, including on college campuses, as his support for Israel's assault on Gaza alienates some young voters.

In a speech honoring the 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust, Biden joined a heated American debate about Jewish security, Zionism, free speech and support for Israel, in the country with the largest Jewish population after Israel.


Addressing a bipartisan audience at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum's annual commemoration, he warned of the risk that the truth about the systematic killing of Jews during World War Two would be lost.

"'Never again' simply translated for me means: Never forget. Never forgetting means we must keep telling the story, we must keep teaching the truth," Biden said at the U.S. Capitol's Emancipation Hall. "The truth is we're at risk of people not knowing the truth."

"This hatred (of Jews) continues to lie deep in the hearts of too many people in the world and requires our continued vigilance and outspokenness," Biden said.


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U.S. President Joe Biden holds a photograph of Holocaust victims on the day he addresses rising levels of antisemitism, at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum's Annual Days of Remembrance ceremony, at the U.S. Capitol building in Washington, U.S., May 7, 2024. REUTERS/Evelyn Hockstein's Annual Days of Remembrance ceremony, at the U.S. Capitol building in Washington, U.S., May 7, 2024. REUTERS/Evelyn Hockstein

U.S. President Joe Biden holds a photograph of Holocaust victims on the day he addresses rising levels of antisemitism, at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum's Annual Days of Remembrance ceremony, at the U.S. Capitol building in Washington, U.S., May 7, 2024. REUTERS/Evelyn Hockstein© Thomson Reuters

The very next day, Biden axes military aid to Israel. If he had any nads he would have addressed it before this event, unless of course his "handlers" didn't tell him yet.
 
Biden: make sure you don’t kill civilians
Biden: we know you plan on going in but we are going to withhold shipment of smart bombs.

Everyone in Rafa was told to get out. If you are still there it’s because you want to fight
Biden makes zero sense. Stop collateral damage but take away smart bombs, unreal stupidity.
 
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The quote in question was published by a credible news organization, but was said to have come from an anonymous source, only identified as a "Democrat," who claimed to have heard Obama make the remark..Making it more of a rumor being reported than a fact

So depending on one's point of view, could be true or just plain BS being spread for political reasons and only those that dislike the sitting President bringing it up while those in the know feel it's not worth discussing because denying what was said isn't worth the bother. when dealing with the type of small minder hateful people that spread misinformation like that
Didn't they impeach Trump based on someone hearing Trump talking on a cell phone in a crowed, loud restaurant? LMFAO at the hypocrisy.
 
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You're like the people who scream racism anytime someone criticizes Kamala Harris.
no just pointing out that the hate and fear crowd finds any and every excuse to go after who they dislike and facts don't matter when they do.
 
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isnt Biden holding back funds that were approved by congress for political gain?
I do not believe that is accurate. He is holding back one certain weapon that needs sign off from the State department to be delivered but he is not holding back actual funding.

I saw someone discussing it yesterday. I will see if I can find the video.
 
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Since you are insane and we were talking about yiur belief that Israel was at fault I assumed you meant Israel needed to be held accountable. As for Gaza, boo boo. Elect terrorists, support terrorists, and hide terrorists well you get what you get
Genius, if you can absorb the fact that 50% of Gaza's population is children and you can also comprehend that there haven't been elections in Gaza since 2006 you might re-think that whole "elect terrorists" nonsense.
Honestly, the lengths that some will go to excuse the killing of so many children is amazing.
 
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Genius, if you can absorb the fact that 50% of Gaza's population is children and you can also comprehend that there haven't been elections in Gaza since 2006 you might re-think that whole "elect terrorists" nonsense.
Honestly, the lengths that some will go to excuse the killing of so many children is amazing.

So if there haven't been elections since 2006 who's been running the place. Perhaps Hamas?
 
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Genius, if you can absorb the fact that 50% of Gaza's population is children and you can also comprehend that there haven't been elections in Gaza since 2006 you might re-think that whole "elect terrorists" nonsense.
Honestly, the lengths that some will go to excuse the killing of so many children is amazing.
The loss of Innocent life sucks. But the truth is the people of Palestine mostly side with Hamas and every polls shows it, their words show it, and their bastions show it. Sadly, most of those kids would be the ones firing rockets in Israel in 10 years.
I’m not a genius, just not a burnt out old drug addict
 
The loss of Innocent life sucks. But the truth is the people of Palestine mostly side with Hamas and every polls shows it, their words show it, and their bastions show it. Sadly, most of those kids would be the ones firing rockets in Israel in 10 years.
I’m not a genius, just not a burnt out old drug addict
Many of them see Israel as the oppressor that has a government that denies the Palestinians living under Israeli control the same rights the Jewish population in the area they live receive .
Most aren't terrorists themselves but feel terrorists organizations are fighting a government that refuses to allow Palestinians to have the same type of justice their Jewish neighbors receive.
Also Israel is turning a blind eye when the new West Bank settlements kick out Palestinians from land their family lived on since before Israel was formed because Israel demands documents that the Palestinians never had , even when the Ottoman Empire ruled the land
Hamas terrorists are scum , but for many of Israel's non Jewish residents, the State of Israel is just as bad because of the way Israel treats them and Israel is looked upon as an oppressor to them.

As for the Palestinian people's attitude towards terrorist groups actions against Israel,
it probably is the same as the average Jewish person living under British rule ( League of Nations 1920 mandate) in Palestine when JEWISH terrorist groups like the Haganah, The Irgun (Haganah members who split off and formed a more violent terrorist group ), and a terrorist group calling themselves Fighters for the Freedom of Israel ( commonly refereed to as the Stern Gage after thir leader Abraham Stern.) .
They performed terrorist acts in the quest to drive the British out, end the Mandate the British were ruling under and have a Jewish Nation be formed using the Biblical Israel as it's name


View of Jewish Terrorism and the Modern Middle East | Journal of Conflict Studies
>They did not believe that the British would give Palestine to the Jews and thus were determined to force them out. They tried to increase the human and political costs to Britain of remaining in Palestine by attacking British troops and police, military bases and police stations, oil refineries, trains, bridges, and banks. Between them, the three groups carried out 78 attacks in the nine months after October 1945. However, the united resistance dissolved after the Irgun blew up the British administration headquarters in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in July 1946, killing 92 people. Following that disaster, which was a grave embarrassment to the moderate Zionists, the Haganah effectively withdrew from armed operations. Unrestrained by the need for a united front, the Irgun and the Stern Gang rapidly escalated the levels of violence nearly four-fold in this second phase, carrying out 286 attacks over the next twelve months. Casualties exceeded 1,000 over the whole two-year period.<


Terrorism has been a part of Palestine/Israel since the Ottoman Empire lost control of Palestine and the people who weren't terrorists living in the area sympathized with the terrorists because of wanting their own nation t, which he terrorist claimed they were fighting for
 
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isnt Biden holding back funds that were approved by congress for political gain?
I think you need better sources of information
here's what you should have known before making an uninformed accusation

>WASHINGTON, May 9 (Reuters) - Billions of dollars worth of U.S. weaponry remains in the pipeline for Israel, despite the delay of one shipment of bombs and a review of others by President Joe Biden's administration, concerned their use in an assault could wreak more devastation on Palestinian civilians.
A senior U.S. official said this week that the administration had reviewed the delivery of weapons that Israel might use for a major invasion of Rafah, a southern Gaza city where over 1 million civilians have sought refuge, and as a result paused a shipment of bombs to Israel.<
>A wide range of other military equipment is due to go to Israel, including joint direct attack munitions (JDAMS), which convert dumb bombs into precision weapons; and tank rounds, mortars and armored tactical vehicles, Senator Jim Risch, the top Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told reporters.<
 
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Many of them see Israel as the oppressor that has a government that denies the Palestinians living under Israeli control the same rights the Jewish population in the area they live receive .
Most aren't terrorists themselves but feel terrorists organizations are fighting a government that refuses to allow Palestinians to have the same type of justice their Jewish neighbors receive.
Also Israel is turning a blind eye when the new West Bank settlements kick out Palestinians from land their family lived on since before Israel was formed because Israel demands documents that the Palestinians never had , even when the Ottoman Empire ruled the land
Hamas terrorists are scum , but for many of Israel's non Jewish residents, the State of Israel is just as bad because of the way Israel treats them and Israel is looked upon as an oppressor to them.

As for the Palestinian people's attitude towards terrorist groups actions against Israel,
it probably is the same as the average Jewish person living under British rule ( League of Nations 1920 mandate) in Palestine when JEWISH terrorist groups like the Haganah, The Irgun (Haganah members who split off and formed a more violent terrorist group ), and a terrorist group calling themselves Fighters for the Freedom of Israel ( commonly refereed to as the Stern Gage after thir leader Abraham Stern.) .
They performed terrorist acts in the quest to drive the British out, end the Mandate the British were ruling under and have a Jewish Nation be formed using the Biblical Israel as it's name


View of Jewish Terrorism and the Modern Middle East | Journal of Conflict Studies
>They did not believe that the British would give Palestine to the Jews and thus were determined to force them out. They tried to increase the human and political costs to Britain of remaining in Palestine by attacking British troops and police, military bases and police stations, oil refineries, trains, bridges, and banks. Between them, the three groups carried out 78 attacks in the nine months after October 1945. However, the united resistance dissolved after the Irgun blew up the British administration headquarters in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in July 1946, killing 92 people. Following that disaster, which was a grave embarrassment to the moderate Zionists, the Haganah effectively withdrew from armed operations. Unrestrained by the need for a united front, the Irgun and the Stern Gang rapidly escalated the levels of violence nearly four-fold in this second phase, carrying out 286 attacks over the next twelve months. Casualties exceeded 1,000 over the whole two-year period.<


Terrorism has been a part of Palestine/Israel since the Ottoman Empire lost control of Palestine and the people who weren't terrorists living in the area sympathized with the terrorists because of wanting their own nation t, which he terrorist claimed they were fighting for

"Casualties exceeded 1,000. over the whole 2 year period" Less than 10/7. That doesn't mean terrorist acts perpetrated by Irgun shouldn't be condemned. As should the terrorist acts by the extremist settlers on the West Bank. But neither were part of a plan advocated by "from the river to the sea" advocates for extermination.
 
"Casualties exceeded 1,000. over the whole 2 year period" Less than 10/7. That doesn't mean terrorist acts perpetrated by Irgun shouldn't be condemned. As should the terrorist acts by the extremist settlers on the West Bank. But neither were part of a plan advocated by "from the river to the sea" advocates for extermination.
All terrorists acts need to be condemned.
And Hamas has proven worse than any terrorist organization
I'm all for its utter destruction.
But as I pointed out, Terrorism played a big part in Israel becoming a Nation and the Jewish people at the time might not have praised the terrorists, but probably understood what they were trying to accomplish and looked at the British as oppressors.
 
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I think you need better sources of information
here's what you should have known before making an uninformed accusation

>WASHINGTON, May 9 (Reuters) - Billions of dollars worth of U.S. weaponry remains in the pipeline for Israel, despite the delay of one shipment of bombs and a review of others by President Joe Biden's administration, concerned their use in an assault could wreak more devastation on Palestinian civilians.
A senior U.S. official said this week that the administration had reviewed the delivery of weapons that Israel might use for a major invasion of Rafah, a southern Gaza city where over 1 million civilians have sought refuge, and as a result paused a shipment of bombs to Israel.<
>A wide range of other military equipment is due to go to Israel, including joint direct attack munitions (JDAMS), which convert dumb bombs into precision weapons; and tank rounds, mortars and armored tactical vehicles, Senator Jim Risch, the top Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told reporters.<

lol
 
Many of them see Israel as the oppressor that has a government that denies the Palestinians living under Israeli control the same rights the Jewish population in the area they live receive .
Most aren't terrorists themselves but feel terrorists organizations are fighting a government that refuses to allow Palestinians to have the same type of justice their Jewish neighbors receive.
Also Israel is turning a blind eye when the new West Bank settlements kick out Palestinians from land their family lived on since before Israel was formed because Israel demands documents that the Palestinians never had , even when the Ottoman Empire ruled the land
Hamas terrorists are scum , but for many of Israel's non Jewish residents, the State of Israel is just as bad because of the way Israel treats them and Israel is looked upon as an oppressor to them.

As for the Palestinian people's attitude towards terrorist groups actions against Israel,
it probably is the same as the average Jewish person living under British rule ( League of Nations 1920 mandate) in Palestine when JEWISH terrorist groups like the Haganah, The Irgun (Haganah members who split off and formed a more violent terrorist group ), and a terrorist group calling themselves Fighters for the Freedom of Israel ( commonly refereed to as the Stern Gage after thir leader Abraham Stern.) .
They performed terrorist acts in the quest to drive the British out, end the Mandate the British were ruling under and have a Jewish Nation be formed using the Biblical Israel as it's name


View of Jewish Terrorism and the Modern Middle East | Journal of Conflict Studies
>They did not believe that the British would give Palestine to the Jews and thus were determined to force them out. They tried to increase the human and political costs to Britain of remaining in Palestine by attacking British troops and police, military bases and police stations, oil refineries, trains, bridges, and banks. Between them, the three groups carried out 78 attacks in the nine months after October 1945. However, the united resistance dissolved after the Irgun blew up the British administration headquarters in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in July 1946, killing 92 people. Following that disaster, which was a grave embarrassment to the moderate Zionists, the Haganah effectively withdrew from armed operations. Unrestrained by the need for a united front, the Irgun and the Stern Gang rapidly escalated the levels of violence nearly four-fold in this second phase, carrying out 286 attacks over the next twelve months. Casualties exceeded 1,000 over the whole two-year period.<


Terrorism has been a part of Palestine/Israel since the Ottoman Empire lost control of Palestine and the people who weren't terrorists living in the area sympathized with the terrorists because of wanting their own nation t, which he terrorist claimed they were fighting for
This is rather disingenuous and quite bias. Historical facts are pretty clear about this period in time. There were cycles of violence and mass violence carried out by Jewish people and Arabs towards each other. This wasn’t terrorism as you claim. It was more a back and forth by loosely connected clans on each other. There is a lot of Jew scapegoating in your bias description here. In the very least you could include the massacres of Jews carried out by Arabs during this time period too.
 
This is rather disingenuous and quite bias. Historical facts are pretty clear about this period in time. There were cycles of violence and mass violence carried out by Jewish people and Arabs towards each other. This wasn’t terrorism as you claim. It was more a back and forth by loosely connected clans on each other. There is a lot of Jew scapegoating in your bias description here. In the very least you could include the massacres of Jews carried out by Arabs during this time period too.
No problem.
Terrorism on both sides was a problem when Britain ruled under the League of Nations Palestine Mandate of 1920.
(Part I (1917-1947) - Question of Palestine)

>The Palestinian rebellion against the British Mandate​

In 1936, the Palestinian resistance to foreign rule and to foreign colonization broke out into a major rebellion that lasted virtually until the outbreak of the Second World War. Palestinian demands for independence drew impetus from the simultaneous nationalist agitations in Egypt and Syria which had forced Great Britain and France to open treaty negotiations with those two Arab countries neighbouring Palestine.
In April 1936, what started as minor Arab-Jewish clashes quickly flared into a widespread revolt. A new union of Palestinian political parties was formed, the Arab Higher Committee, headed by the Mufti of Jerusalem, Al Hajj Amin al-Husseini. The Committee called for a general strike to support the demand for national government. Despite strong Palestinian resistance to Jewish immigration, the British Government issued permits for several thousand new immigrants, offering further provocation to Palestinian nationalists. An unprecedented feature of this nationalist movement was the open identification with it by senior Arab officials of the Palestine administration who protested to the High Commissioner that Palestinians had been forced to violence because of loss of faith in British pledges and alarm at the extent to which Britain was susceptible to Zionist pressure.
As the strike prolonged, violence increased. There were attacks on British troops and police posts as well as on Jewish settlements, sabotage of roads, railways, pipelines and so on. The British administration imposed curfews, called in troop reinforcements from Britain, Egypt and Malta, and resorted to mass arrests, collective fines, and internments in concentration camps and other emergency measures. Large parts of the Arab quarter in the town of Jaffa were demolished by the authorities on the grounds of urban improvement – in the midst of the revolt – but order could not be restored.
During earlier Palestinian Arab uprisings, Jewish settlers often had restrained retaliation under the doctrine of the Havlaga, or restraint. But now, not unexpectedly, there were Jewish reprisals. The principal vehicle was the Haganah, a covert paramilitary force formed early in the mandate years (and which was to play a leading role in later events in Palestine). The Jewish settlers also benefited from 2,800 of their number being enrolled in the police forces as supernumeraries.
The failure of the Palestine authorities to suppress the revolt by military means led to political measures. The British Government announced the appointment of a Royal Commission to investigate the causes of the “disturbances” and turned to the rulers of other Arab States for the mediation that eventually led to the calling off of the strike in October 1936. The official count of casualties was 275 dead and 1,112 wounded, but the Royal Commission’s estimate was 1,000 deaths. 92
The end of the strike was to prove a lull in the rebellion. The issue of the Royal Commission’s report brought an almost immediate renewal of violence, starting with the assassination of a British District Commissioner. Although it was not conclusively established that the assassins were Arab, the High Commissioner declared the Arab Higher Committee proscribed, arresting its prominent leaders and deporting them to the Seychelles Islands, while the Mufti of Jerusalem was able to escape to Lebanon, from where he continued to direct the rebellion.<

Note: Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem, was a despicable antisemite and ardent Nazi supporter during WW2
 
Footnote. The US was approached about assuming the mandate in 1920 and wisely turned it down
 
Remember a past President knew when to put the brakes on , but still support.
Ronald Reagan did that when Israel didn't do what he thought was right

In 1981, President Reagan held back the delivery of U.S. fighter jets to Israel for two months after it bombed a nuclear reactor in Iraq.

In 1982, Reagan halted a shipment of cluster shells to Israel over how Israel used the weapons during its invasion of Lebanon. American officials at the time were reviewing if the use of the weapons violated an agreement between the U.S. and Israel.

Israel and the US are close Allies , but America shouldn't allow any country to have the last word on what America feels is the right thing to do with the help America gives them.

We must remember the USS Liberty attack in 1967 before giving Israel "Carte blanche" on the actions it takes to defend itself
 
Remember a past President knew when to put the brakes on , but still support.
Ronald Reagan did that when Israel didn't do what he thought was right

In 1981, President Reagan held back the delivery of U.S. fighter jets to Israel for two months after it bombed a nuclear reactor in Iraq.

In 1982, Reagan halted a shipment of cluster shells to Israel over how Israel used the weapons during its invasion of Lebanon. American officials at the time were reviewing if the use of the weapons violated an agreement between the U.S. and Israel.

Israel and the US are close Allies , but America shouldn't allow any country to have the last word on what America feels is the right thing to do with the help America gives them.

We must remember the USS Liberty attack in 1967 before giving Israel "Carte blanche" on the actions it takes to defend itself

It was different when Reagan withheld aid to Israel, just like it was different when Reagan...granted amnesty to immigrants...sent money and weapons to Iran...raised taxes....and banned guns...because...uh....um....can we see if Hannity covers it and repeat his response?
 
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