The NCAA is UNC's b*tch.
Got to give it to the Tarheels...they know how to play the game and circle the wagons after they get caught playing the game.
Wish Rutgers was able to get all of the oars rowing in the same direction like they do.
OT: UNC Scandal "Judgment Day" is Friday the 13th
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The NCAA is UNC's b*tch.
Got to give it to the Tarheels...they know how to play the game and circle the wagons after they get caught playing the game.
Wish Rutgers was able to get all of the oars rowing in the same direction like they do.
Total joke is vacating wins.
Sarahcuse lacrosse was stripped of a title after they got caught cheating...and they still market it and try to claim it anyway.
The NCAA has no b@lls.
I don't advocate cheating...more so advocating doing whatever you can and want to win. Don't even bother looking at their silly rules that they don't enforce.
The NCAA is supposed to be the governing body that prevents cheating and theoretically anyway insures that the athletic departments are following the rules they all agreed to follow. When I said, in my post, that they can't continue to be a dog with no teeth and still be taken seriously I meant they can't be a "governing body" if none of the members take them seriously. I was not suggesting the schools would shut them down. This UNC thing, IMO, is serious. The impending basketball scandal, depending on how far reaching the FBI gets, could be huge. The NCAA has to step up and do their job or no one inside or outside of college sports will take anything they do or say seriously. Don't pretend to be a governing body.
I wouldn't let the athletes transfer without penalty. Every single one of the kids still in school has known about their pending sanctions/scandal for years....they went in taking that risk. I say screw em.
Foggy N&O article on the delay: www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/unc-now/article177205461.html
Interesting to note how quickly the COI produced the UNC final report, well before the deadline. This and the fact that the NCAA apparently delayed the official public announcement of the report per UNC's scheduled fundraiser this weekend seems to hint that the penalties will be severe. ???
UNC AD's alma mater (Notre Dame) comes to town on Sat. Go Bubba Go! Have to root for the golden domers on this rare occasion.
Interesting to note how quickly the COI produced the UNC final report, well before the deadline. This and the fact that the NCAA apparently delayed the official public announcement of the report per UNC's scheduled fundraiser this weekend seems to hint that the penalties will be severe. ???
UNC AD's alma mater (Notre Dame) comes to town on Sat. Go Bubba Go! Have to root for the golden domers on this rare occasion.
As an aside, the NCAA's COI is led by Greg Sankey, who also happens to be the commissioner of the SEC, a conference that is at the heart of the Adidas coaching staff and agent/financial scandal, with five schools named as involved parties.
A skeptic might see some connection?
Sankey was a unwavering critic of the Heels and the institution's defiance of the NCAA. He also refused to recuse himself when UNC objected to his participation in the COI.
A skeptic might see some connection?
Sankey was a unwavering critic of the Heels and the institution's defiance of the NCAA. He also refused to recuse himself when UNC objected to his participation in the COI.
I can see the argument, they knew going in that UNC was under investigation and they rolled the dice. "Just screw them" might be a little harsh but they probably shouldn't be able to transfer. They went in with their eyes opened.
On the other hand, they could file suit against the staff and the admin. (fake)Class Action.
Yeah, tend to agree. For whatever reason, they bought the line their recruiting coach gave them i.e. "don't worry, we won't get touched by the NCAA". Heck, the scandal probably helped in recruiting as it may have given the recruit an inkling on how hard classes were going to be.
Article below from today's USA Today. See what Roy Williams has to say about the FBI's bribery/fraud investigation. This guy is freakin' unbelievable.
NCAA Committee on Infractions report on North Carolina academic scandal case delayed
SCOTT GLEESON | USA TODAY
The release of the NCAA Committee on Infractions report of an investigation into academic misconduct at the university of North Carolina has been delayed, the school said.
It was previously expected the decision about possible sanctions would be made public Friday.
UNC officials, including men's basketball coach Roy Williams and football coach Larry Fedora, appeared before an NCAA infractions committee panel in August.
The university faces five top-level charges, including lack of institutional control, in a case that grew as an offshoot of a probe launched in 2010 into the football program.
The academic fraud allegations involved classes taken by athletes in the African and Afro-American studies department between 2002 and 2011 that helped many retain their eligibility. The irregularities are focused on independent study-style courses misidentified as lecture classes that didn’t meet and required a research paper or two while featuring significant athlete enrollments.
In its response to the case, North Carolina challenged the most serious and potentially damaging allegation, arguing that "inadequate academic oversight unrelated to the Department of Athletics" doesn't constitute an issue within the NCAA's jurisdiction.
Williams, whose defending national champion Tar Heels opened practice last week, said of the federal investigationof bribery and fraud that rocked the college basketball world and cost Rick Pitino his job at Louisville: "I know it looks really bad. ...But to paint the entire college basketball world like this I don't think it's fair either because I don't think that's what the entire college basketball world is all about. ...I think that you can't legislate honesty. You can't legislate morality. You just try to get people to do things the right way."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ractions-decision-academic-scandal/735190001/
NCAA Committee on Infractions report on North Carolina academic scandal case delayed
SCOTT GLEESON | USA TODAY
The release of the NCAA Committee on Infractions report of an investigation into academic misconduct at the university of North Carolina has been delayed, the school said.
It was previously expected the decision about possible sanctions would be made public Friday.
UNC officials, including men's basketball coach Roy Williams and football coach Larry Fedora, appeared before an NCAA infractions committee panel in August.
The university faces five top-level charges, including lack of institutional control, in a case that grew as an offshoot of a probe launched in 2010 into the football program.
The academic fraud allegations involved classes taken by athletes in the African and Afro-American studies department between 2002 and 2011 that helped many retain their eligibility. The irregularities are focused on independent study-style courses misidentified as lecture classes that didn’t meet and required a research paper or two while featuring significant athlete enrollments.
In its response to the case, North Carolina challenged the most serious and potentially damaging allegation, arguing that "inadequate academic oversight unrelated to the Department of Athletics" doesn't constitute an issue within the NCAA's jurisdiction.
Williams, whose defending national champion Tar Heels opened practice last week, said of the federal investigationof bribery and fraud that rocked the college basketball world and cost Rick Pitino his job at Louisville: "I know it looks really bad. ...But to paint the entire college basketball world like this I don't think it's fair either because I don't think that's what the entire college basketball world is all about. ...I think that you can't legislate honesty. You can't legislate morality. You just try to get people to do things the right way."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ractions-decision-academic-scandal/735190001/
Sounds Penn Stateish...
That's a good start. Someone has to crack the whip.
Some information has been leaked out. I hear the NCAA will come down hard on UNC and show them a thing or two by penalizing Rutgers for some trivial infractions.
An effective penalty would be to reduce the amount of home or neutral site games you can have each year for a certain length of time.
That and a big scholarship hit.
That and a big scholarship hit.
The crooks investigating the crooks. What could possibly be overlooked?
Punishment is announce
They had to delay in order to give time for all the wires to hit
They had to delay in order to give time for all the wires to hit
This has been overlooked: UNC's official statement yesterday contained this key sentence: “We have not yet received the committee’s public infractions report."
This hints that UNC may, in fact, have received a "private" infractions report from the COI.
The NCAA has not issued any official statement so far, nor has it responded to media inquiries as to what the hell is going on. Seems likely that, with UNC's $4.4 Billion fundraising campaign kickoff set for this weekend surrounding the Notre Dame game, the UNC powerbase has managed to put the old kibosh on the delivery and acceptance of the NCAA's "public" infractions report.
The curious saga continues. . . .
This hints that UNC may, in fact, have received a "private" infractions report from the COI.
The NCAA has not issued any official statement so far, nor has it responded to media inquiries as to what the hell is going on. Seems likely that, with UNC's $4.4 Billion fundraising campaign kickoff set for this weekend surrounding the Notre Dame game, the UNC powerbase has managed to put the old kibosh on the delivery and acceptance of the NCAA's "public" infractions report.
The curious saga continues. . . .
After the revelations of last week on top of the recent history of violations, probations, etc., if Louisville basketball doesn't get the death penalty somewhere down the line, then nobody ever will.
Completely disagree. Letting them transfer without penalty is a punishment for the university and that sport, since, presumably top athletes won't want to stay at UNC. I'm all for punishing UNC as harshly as possible (should get the death penalty, but will likely escape that). While the athletes who play in dirty programs generally know it, I'm more concerned with punishing the university than punishing the players.
UNC academic scandal makes a mockery of the NCAA. North Carolina should be punished.
This condemnation today from the editorial board of The Virginian-Pilot: https://pilotonline.com/opinion/edi...cle_84c27946-d1a1-5596-a96e-2a8b1be25a49.html
This condemnation today from the editorial board of The Virginian-Pilot: https://pilotonline.com/opinion/edi...cle_84c27946-d1a1-5596-a96e-2a8b1be25a49.html
RUinPinehurst,
what are your thoughts on this? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...all-probe-chooses-unc/?utm_term=.dbf49b107229
what are your thoughts on this? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...all-probe-chooses-unc/?utm_term=.dbf49b107229
Perfect fit. Little's family stated it had nothing to do with the alleged $150k enticement offer to get their boy to wear Adidas at Miami. Roy Williams assures Little that UNC's Nike/Air Jordan MBB is clean and will not be punished. So it's all good. Nothing to see here. So let's just move along. And "Go Heels!"
It is not realistic to think they would turn down $150k unless UNC offered more.
Funny— do these kids and their parents read the papers? Maybe hold off a day or two for the NCAA report???? LOL
On the other hand, seems reading is not a prerequisite at Chapel Hill; maybe not.
Ok. Where is the decision? It's 4PM. Is NCAA closed for Columbus Day?
Couldn't have said it better:
The university that for so long had talked about the “Carolina Way” — which included competing in sports with honor and integrity — discovered it was, in large part, a self-serving myth.
With its reputation in tatters, the school should have acted swiftly and sternly to punish its sports teams and coaches. Its refusal to do so means the NCAA is the only remaining hope of making UNC pay the price for nearly 20 years of wrongdoing.
Speculation is that "yes," the NCAA will issue its 24-hour-advance notice to UNC tomorrow morning, and then post the public report on Wednesday morning along with a media conference later that afternoon. We... shall... see....
John Swofford, the current ACC Commish , was the UNC AD for the some of these years in the 1990s.
How the F does he keep his job?
How the F does he keep his job?
Are they going to announce the re-announcement date? What's taking so long? Fundraiser must be over already. I'm thinking the announcement will be scheduled for the next fundraiser in which case they'll postpone again.
UNC is busy counting their money and can't be distracted with such trivial matters.
The new announcement day will be in late Feb 2018 so as not to interfere with the 2nd College football signing date. UNC has to much going on and has events plannes.
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